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Poorer Health of Surgery Patients on Medicaid May Alter Law’s Bottom Line
New York Times ^ | May 18, 2014 02:10 GMT | Robert Pear

Posted on 05/18/2014 2:09:02 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists

WASHINGTON — Surgery patients covered by Medicaid arrive at the hospital in worse health, experience more complications, stay longer and cost more than patients with private insurance, a new study has found.

The study, by researchers at the University of Michigan, may offer a preview of what to expect as millions of uninsured people qualify for Medicaid under the Affordable Care Act.

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Business/Economy; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; affordablecareact; medicaid; medicaidexpansion; obama; obamacare; oregon; pelosi
Medicaid patients “had more emergency operations and used 50 percent more hospital resources than patients with other kinds of insurance.”

Brace for impact.
1 posted on 05/18/2014 2:09:03 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

When you don’t have to pay for your own insurance, what incentive do you have to stay healthy so you don’t have to use it often?


2 posted on 05/18/2014 2:25:56 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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One would think that staying healthy was an end in and of itself.

Who the heck would want to be disabled ?

3 posted on 05/18/2014 2:53:10 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: NativeSon

“Who the heck would want to be disabled ? “

Leeches with free ‘Bama’ phones? Leeches who don’t want to work? Leeches who vote “democrap”?

The list is endless.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 2:56:35 AM PDT by Up Yours Marxists
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To: Up Yours Marxists

No, not disability for ‘fun & profit’ on the plantation, I mean the ‘drag a tank of oxygen around on your scooter ‘ disabled.


5 posted on 05/18/2014 3:30:38 AM PDT by NativeSon ( Grease the floor with Crisco when I dance the Disco)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Predictable outcome of government run health care, of course. There is NO evidence that government intervention in ANY industry leads to efficiencies or improved outcomes.

Only the libtards continue to believe that the solution to every issue or problem (real or imagined) is MORE GUBMINT.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 3:38:27 AM PDT by PubliusMM (RKBA; a matter of fact, not opinion. 01-20-2016; I pray we make it that long.)
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To: Up Yours Marxists
For starters, Medicaid isn't insurance. It's welfare payment of medical costs for people who don't buy insurance.

People who don't buy medical insurance often have a whole different set of priorities than those who do. Many also choose to not work, as well. They have made the decision that they will give up the benefits of working in order to avoid the liabilities of working. Many spend whatever available money they can get on booze, drugs and cigarettes instead of more healthy pursuits. Many times, this is the root cause of their problems with illnesses, not the lack of insurance.

7 posted on 05/18/2014 3:45:57 AM PDT by norwaypinesavage (The Stone Age didnÂ’t end because we ran out of stones)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

Death panels; the Feds want to forgo them and just euthanize those pesky citizens that are using up all the funds they can’t use to pay for stupid art endowment grants and payoff warlords overseas to help their thriving drug business.../s


8 posted on 05/18/2014 4:24:54 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Up Yours Marxists

I’ve seen real poverty in my life.In East Africa I’ve seen a little black kids with orange hair,big bellies and little stick legs.I’ve seen poverty in India as well.And I’ve see lazy a$$ fat tubs of lard here in the US.But there’s no way that I’ll call them “poor”.


9 posted on 05/18/2014 4:29:47 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

LOL….guess Obummer’s Lefties don’t read British books. A common joke is the malingerers who don’t want to leave the hospitals and squat there, further gumming up the works. That may be changing, now that the NHS is so horrible that even the squatters don’t want to be “in hospital”.


10 posted on 05/18/2014 4:43:17 AM PDT by txrefugee
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To: jsanders2001

“Death panels; the Feds want to forgo them and just euthanize those pesky citizens that are using up all the funds...”

If the Feds think about it, this won’t happen...this is their voter base!


11 posted on 05/18/2014 4:43:28 AM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: Up Yours Marxists

From the SLIMES?


12 posted on 05/18/2014 4:47:45 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“If the Feds think about it, this won’t happen...this is their voter base!”

And those dead “voters” will still be voting.


13 posted on 05/18/2014 4:50:04 AM PDT by freeangel ( (free speech is only good until someone else doesn't like it)
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To: NativeSon

You do not understand..... disabled is a legal term of art that allows those labeled “disabled” to receive free stuff.

The unemployment roles have diminished largely because many were labeled “disabled” and switched from one form of free stuff to another.

It has nothing to do with how capable they are


14 posted on 05/18/2014 4:52:34 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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That’s a big reason the unemployment rate in Ohio has dropped to 5.7%. We’ve not a lot more jobs, just a smaller labor force.


15 posted on 05/18/2014 4:58:04 AM PDT by griswold3 (I was born heI're in America. I will die here in a third world country. Obama succeeded.)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

“Death panels; the Feds want to forgo them and just euthanize those pesky citizens that are using up all the funds...”

If the Feds think about it, this won’t happen...this is their voter base!

Well AFTER their usefulness has expired...: )


16 posted on 05/18/2014 4:58:04 AM PDT by jsanders2001
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To: Up Yours Marxists

The Medicaid patients I care for more often than not simply don’t show up for surgery or appointments. What costs you nothing you value at nothing.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 5:16:39 AM PDT by I-ambush (Don't let it bring you down, it's only castles burning)
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To: RWB Patriot

It’s not just that. I have a cousin who has a now 18 year old daughter who became pregnant and had her baby at 17. She’s on Medicaid. Cousin and I were talking the other day and she was telling me that when daughter was big and pregnant she took her to the hospital 20 times because she “hurt”. Not kidding.
Even with what they are calling insurance this girl still used the hospital emergency room for regular doctor visits.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 5:55:14 AM PDT by sheana
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Quote:
"When you don’t have to pay for your own insurance, what incentive do you have to stay healthy so you don’t have to use it often?" -RWB Patriot

That is quite the broad brush you are painting with there.

Current administration policy is destroying the economy to the point where proud, able bodied individuals have been sidelined, forced to consume all savings, liquidate investments, foreclose on their homes etc. just to survive. The toll this takes on families is enormous and costly not only in monetary terms but in emotional and physical ways as well...a domino effect. Under these circumstances caused by the "hope & change "wealth redistribution" administration's policies - it has become a very different "America, land of opportunity".

19 posted on 05/18/2014 6:59:47 AM PDT by wtd
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

What difference will the ‘voter base’ ultimately matter to islamists?


20 posted on 05/18/2014 7:31:47 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: NativeSon

When rewards are based on need and punishments on ability, is it not logical for people to find ways to become in need? It takes a special person to stay productive when he can mostly expect to be hated for it.


21 posted on 05/18/2014 8:25:15 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: norwaypinesavage

Just for the record, I don’t have health insurance because I don’t want anything to do with Obama’s wet dream of a healthcare system. I’m waiting for the next enrollment period at work.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 8:26:16 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: wtd

The idea behind things like medicare/medicaid and social security is what made current administration policy popular.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 8:27:59 AM PDT by RWB Patriot ("My ability is a value that must be earned and I don't recognize anyone's need as a claim on me.")
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To: RWB Patriot

“When rewards are based on need and punishments on ability, is it not logical for people to find ways to become in need? It takes a special person to stay productive when he can mostly expect to be hated for it.”

Very true. Luckily many conservatives are that special kind of person.

On the other hand, we are retiring early next year, choosing to quit supporting a socialist government with our taxes. We won’t be taking from the system but won’t be giving either.


24 posted on 05/18/2014 8:53:40 AM PDT by yorkiemom
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To: RWB Patriot

Or in the case of private insurance, quit smoking, join long term health condition management programs or lose weight to pay lower premiums or deductibles?


25 posted on 05/18/2014 1:17:19 PM PDT by tbw2
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To: I-ambush
What costs you nothing you value at nothing.
Precisely what I was trying to articulate on another thread, in the context of an article from a leftie which claimed that since there was always things that needed doing, there was no difficulty in creating government jobs which are “not demoralizing make-work.”

But if your “job” costs your boss nothing, he will value your time accordingly. Viola! Instant “demoralizing make-work.” Even, in your case, when you are well-qualified, and your “boss” stands to directly benefit from your work.


26 posted on 05/19/2014 4:12:39 AM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion (The idea around which “liberalism" coheres is that NOTHING actually matters except PR.)
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