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Putin Wants to Control the Internet and Obama Wants to Let Him
Townhall.com ^ | May 18, 2014 | George Landrith

Posted on 05/18/2014 9:50:00 AM PDT by Kaslin

Beginning in the 1960s, shortly after the Russians shocked the world by launching Sputnik, America launched its drive to put a man on the moon. While we were racing towards the moon, we were also developing the Internet. It started out as a military project, but transitioned to academic use and then to public use. By the earlier 1990s, we began to see the Internet that we now know as the world’s largest and most accessible source for information — the world's mega-library.

You’ve likely heard that the Obama Administration plans to surrender US control of the Internet to some international entity. Russian President Vladimir Putin has made news recently by expanding his control into Crimea and Ukraine and now he has his sights on the Internet. In Crimea and Ukraine, Putin has taken advantage of Obama’s projected weakness in foreign policy. Now he is licking his chops as Obama has announced he will give away control of the Internet to “international stakeholders.”

Just as Putin skillfully played international stakeholders in the Crimea and Ukraine, he is confident that he will be able to angle his way into substantial control over the Internet. Whoever controls Internet domain names and addresses will ultimately control the global Internet. Putin understands this. Clearly, Obama does not. Or if he does, he doesn’t seem to care. Once Obama gives away American control of the Internet, the values of free speech and free press will die off.

There is nothing wrong with the Internet that will be improved by inviting an autocratic oligarch like Putin to assert his power over an American invention like the Internet.

Here’s the truth — Americans invented the Internet. Americans developed and built the Internet. It is American technology that runs and administers the Internet on a global level. The American values of free speech and free press have permeated the Internet and made it an invaluable source of information for Americans and people all over the world. This is why totalitarian governments try and sometimes succeed in shutting down or censuring the Internet within their own borders to stifle dissent and limit opposition.

Putin is one of these types. Within Russia he has imposed strict laws to shut down social networks within Russia and block Russian Internet from the rest of the world. He has asserted strict control over what can be said on all the networks that are under his control. Why would Obama want to give people like Putin more control over our Internet? What problem is he trying to solve?

Putin wants to get his hands on our Internet. I’m not surmising this — Putin has explicitly said so. He wants to exert the same control he has over Russia’s Internet over us all. He wants to limit what the American press can say. He wants to limit what you can read and post online. He wants to control the flow of information. He is a former KBG chieftain. He knows how to control things and that is what he lives to do.

Sadly, but not surprisingly, Obama is playing right into Putin’s hands. This may shed some light on what Obama meant in March 2012 when he asked Dmitry Medvedev to pass along a message to Putin saying that “This is my last election. After my election, I will have more flexibility.” This is not the sort of flexibility that Americans should support.

It is time for all Americans — regardless of political affiliation — to stand up and say that we are mad as hell and won’t put up with this anymore. We must demand that the Internet remain under American control with American values of free press. We must demand that Congress take action to prevent the President from foolishly continuing down this path. The bottom line is this — America invented, created, developed, built and governed the Internet. It must continue do so.

Those who suggest that there is some other model that can work are playing with fire and playing into the hands of control freaks like Putin. Who do you want to bet on American values like free speech or control freaks like Vladimir Putin?


TOPICS: Israel; Russia
KEYWORDS: internet; israel; kenyanbornmuzzie; resident0bama; russia; vladimirputin

1 posted on 05/18/2014 9:50:00 AM PDT by Kaslin
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To: Kaslin

Didn’t AL Gore tell us HE invented the Internet? If so, then he owns it and he can sell it out to enemy IslamoNazis


2 posted on 05/18/2014 9:51:56 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: All

here’s a question. right now, who would you rather have control of anything, putin or Obama?


3 posted on 05/18/2014 9:54:21 AM PDT by willywill
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To: faithhopecharity

“He wants to limit what the American press can say.”

Why? They are good little marching communists already.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 9:54:34 AM PDT by Luke21
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To: Kaslin

5 posted on 05/18/2014 9:54:39 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Kaslin

Obama=theUNDOCUMENTED Impostor will give away
American freedom with the Internet (what is left),
as the hated, EXEMPT Congress tends their brothels
and banks. Disgusting TREASON.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 9:56:06 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Kaslin

7 posted on 05/18/2014 9:56:50 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Kaslin
Ubama has more flexibility now.
8 posted on 05/18/2014 10:00:22 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Kaslin

Vlad will be able to control the net from his ISS. The world has gone so damn crazy that it’s starting to look like a James Bond movie.


9 posted on 05/18/2014 10:02:59 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: willywill

Neither.


10 posted on 05/18/2014 10:08:31 AM PDT by 1rudeboy
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To: Kaslin

Time for President Trayvon and Putin to sit down for a beer summit .... then maybe go shoot some skeet with the guys.


11 posted on 05/18/2014 10:21:35 AM PDT by layman (Card Carrying Infidel)
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To: Kaslin
Hate to say it, but I'd trust Putin more readily than I would team Soros/Obunga/KKKlintler at this point.

Communists blow up the original Moscow Cathedral (Cathedral of Christ the Savior):

The cathedral as rebuilt under Putin:

The only people I've really read about crying about Putin being too much of a control freak recently was "Pussy Riot" and, frankly, I thought they got off pretty lightly getting sent North to entertain penguins and snow bears for a couple of years. They need to try their little desecration schtick in the biggest mosque in Saudi Arabia and see what happens...

12 posted on 05/18/2014 10:39:49 AM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: willywill

politicians want the internet controlled, they have the managed media to shape the conversations, but currently the internet makes its too easy to find out facts and report them to the non brainwashed types,

for example thousands might show up to protest an illegal harry reid land grab etc,

they need you censored (even self censored) with an internet ID so they know exactly where to send the IRS stormtroopers,

its much easier to allow some vague international oversight committee take the blame for enacting the controls they desire for themselves,

it is evil, and they are evil, and it is coming,


13 posted on 05/18/2014 11:36:35 AM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: Kaslin
B. Obama seems scared of V. Putin. Could it be that Putin has a copy of his real birth certificate> Probably not, but Obama is no match for Putin.
14 posted on 05/18/2014 12:08:28 PM PDT by apocalypto
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To: Kaslin

Uh, Congress?...


15 posted on 05/18/2014 12:17:45 PM PDT by onedoug (God derived the function we discovered as mathematics)
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To: varmintman
You soundlike you would have been a fan of Mussolini and Franco too, had you lived in the 1930s.

Wait a second...is that Mussolini, heroically painted on the main fresco of a Church?

Oh right...it's almost as if we forgot that Mussolini always did everything he could to associate himself with Christianity, to make himself seen as the heroic embodiment of traditional and Christian values.

To this end, Mussolini financed the buildings of churches all over the world, including this one. Many are still standing and are extensively used. That fresco of Mussolini is still there to this day.

Mussolini and the Roman Catholic Church:

"Once leader, Mussolini had to decide on whether to take on the power of the Roman Catholic Church in Italy or to work with it. He chose the latter. In this way, Italians did not have to have divided loyalties. Therefore, Mussolini worked to get the Roman Catholic Church to accept a Fascist state while he planned to offer the Roman Catholic Church what it wanted.

To gain credibility with the Roman Catholic Church, Mussolini had his children baptised in 1923. In 1926, he had a religious marriage ceremony to his wife Rachele. Their first marriage in 1915 had been a civil ceremony. Mussolini closed down many wine shops and night clubs. He also made swearing in public a crime.

One of the reasons why Mussolini pushed the idea that women should stay at home and look after the family while their husbands worked, was because this was an idea pushed by the Roman Catholic Church. Mussolini voiced his disapproval at the use of contraception - an identical stance to the Roman Catholic Church. Like the Roman Catholic Church, Mussolini also wanted divorce banned in Italy. By doing all of this, Mussolini was trying to bring the Roman Catholic Church onto his side to get its support and give added credibility to his government. However, the relationship was not always harmonious.

...Another part of the treaty was called the Concordat. This made the Roman Catholic faith the state religion - this was a fait accompli anyway. The pope appointed his bishops, though they had to receive the government’s blessing. Religion had to be taught in both primary and secondary schools. The Roman Catholic Church was given full control of marriage."

Just replace the world 'Mussolini' with 'Putin', and the phrase 'Roman Catholic' with 'Russian Orthodox', and you can hardly tell the difference. And don't even get me started on Francisco Franco, another notorious dictator.

16 posted on 05/18/2014 12:27:23 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

So basically you’re smearing all Christian leaders as being Mussolini.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 12:56:30 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Corporate Democrat
In order to believe that Vladimir Putin is anything other than the heroic figure he appears to be, you need to believe that Bork Obunga, the Rothschilde family, George Soros, Victoria Nuland, John (the gigolo) Kerry, Hillary KKKlintler, and every other one of the "neocvon(TM)" fools in our state department are all good people, which is ridiculous.

Matt Drudge is referring to Putin as the leader of the free world

Pat Buchanan believes (as I do) that God is on Putin's side:
http://townhall.com/columnists/patbuchanan/2014/04/04/whose-side-is-god-on-now-n1818499/page/full

Background:
http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3134772/posts

US Govt Russophobia:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rPv106Oie8Y

The false flag sniper op at Maidan:
http://www.washingtonsblog.com/2014/03/everyone-agrees-ukraine-sniper-attacks-false-flag-argue-culprit.html

Putin's Perspective
http://en.ria.ru/russia/20130725/182424969/Christianity-Made-Russia-Great-World-Power—Putin.html

Arrest warrant for George Soros:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DpO3PArAoUQ

Faith:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u3d_yxJhmjk

200 New Christian churches being built in an daround Moscow:
http://www.asianews.it/news-en/Foundations-laid-for-first-of-200-new-Orthodox-churches-in-Moscow-21434.html

The Cathedral of Christ The Savior:
http://www.123rf.com/photo_7308397_the-restored-cathedral-of-christ-the-savior-in-moscow-at-night.html

calls for world leaders to stop the slaughter/persecution of Christians :
http://answersforthefaith.com/2013/08/08/putin-world-leaders-should-unite-to-end-christian-persecution/

The United States is still demographically a Christian nation but you'd never know it from observing our government. All you ever read about our government doing these days is supporting regimes which persecute Christians and Christianity, and then you ask whose side you think God might be on? You think God could ever be on the side of George Soros, Monsanto, and the Obunga state department?? For that matter do you think God would be on the side of "conservatives" who weren't bright enough to see through demoKKKrat/NWO/Soros/US_StateDept propaganda and BS??

All of that is aside from the fact that Putin almost singlehandedly stopped the idiot greentards and Malthusians from shutting down all of the world's economies in 04 with the Russian hacker attack on the East Anglia CU email database which gave rise to "Climategate" (www.climategate.com). Other than for that, all of the idiots comparing Putin with Hitler would likely be rubbing sticks together to make fire.

The rulers of Russia have taken a hard look at the ongoing suicide of the West and determined that Russia is not going to participate. This may in fact be the biggest factor in the tidal wave of propaganda and disinformation which the West is subjected to regarding Russia and Vladimir Putin, and in the policies of our state department. The bankers who run the West hope to prevent the calamity which they are facing by bail-ins and austerity programs and that, combined with the Malthusian and greentard policies of our governments figure to produce a world of major grief for the West over the coming decades.

Those people can ill afford the alternative example of a prosperous and happy version of reality in the BRIC nations for everybody on the planet to see on television and the internet.

18 posted on 05/18/2014 1:50:11 PM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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To: Mount Athos

No, only oppressive dictators who magically become devout defenders of the faith when it becomes politically convenient. None of these guys were Christian until they needed to portray themselves as traditional, Christian heroes of the nation. In other words, a personality cult tailored for the nation.

No real Christian would have done the things Putin has done, ranging from the killing and torture of opposition journalists to the mass killings in Chechnya. Remember Sergei Magnitsky. Remember Anna Politkovskaya.


19 posted on 05/18/2014 2:05:12 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: varmintman

I responded to that already. The world is still not black and white. Putin is not heroic because he opposes Obama. Obama is not a good person because he oppose Putin.

Putin has a long list of crimes which he is directly responsible for, none of which would be perpetrated by a real, God-fearing Christian.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 2:07:43 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

“You soundlike you would have been a fan of Mussolini and Franco too, had you lived in the 1930s.”

It sounds to me like your logic is completely broken.

Wow, Putin built a church, and advocated a Christian value.

Mussolini! Franco!

So every leader who builds a church and says something good about Christian values is a Mussolini or Franco.

That’s retarded.

Of course you don’t make this comparison for the leaders who don’t even try to do anything Christian.

Oh yeah, and going in to Chechnya makes him a monster?

Russia backed off of Chechnya for years, leaving them with defacto independence. The people voted in a taliban government with kidnapping as the national industry, used it as a launching ground for further attacks into Russian provinces like Dagestan and terrorist attacks in Moscow.

I really doubt any leader would have done differently on the issue.


21 posted on 05/18/2014 2:17:32 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos
"In order to believe that Vladimir Putin is anything other than the heroic figure he appears to be".

.that's what I call broken logic.

"So every leader who builds a church and says something good about Christian values is a Mussolini or Franco."

In case your memory is faulty: "No, only oppressive dictators who magically become devout defenders of the faith when it becomes politically convenient. None of these guys were Christian until they needed to portray themselves as traditional, Christian heroes of the nation. In other words, a personality cult tailored for the nation."

Obama also claims to be Christian and prays in public. You believe him? Or do you only believe the better and more opportunistic liar?

"Of course you don’t make this comparison for the leaders who don’t even try to do anything Christian."

Yes, because every critic of Putin on a Putin thread must also criticize Obama at the same time, lest it be insinuated that he's ignoring Obama's transgressions.

"Russia backed off of Chechnya for years, leaving them with defacto independence. The people voted in a taliban government with kidnapping as the national industry, used it as a launching ground for further attacks into Russian provinces like Dagestan and terrorist attacks in Moscow."

You mean the Russians tried and failed. In return, the Russians surrounded Grozny and turned it into the most bombed city on Earth. With civilians inside. They then committed massacres, and there are mass graves still being dug up there. In 2012, the "people" thanked Putin by giving him 99% of the vote with 99% voter turnout in 2011.

Read Anna Politkovskaya's (God bless her soul) reports and books, she documents this extensively, and Putin's hands are as bloody as the terrorists he fought against.

She was eventually killed by Putin for it. I notice you said nothing about what happened to her or all the other journalists that Putin has imprisoned and killed either. Obama aspires to be what Putin has already become in Russia. Just another corrupt, opportunistic dictator with delusions of grandeur, greatness propagated by the state organs under his control.

22 posted on 05/18/2014 3:57:32 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: Corporate Democrat

Building a church or standing up for a religious value does not make a leader a Franco nor a Mussolini.

It is idiocy to assert that it does.

If a person says hey that leader did a good thing rebuilding a church, or hey that leader was right to stand up for a Christian value, it doesn’t mean they are a lover of Franco or Mussolini (as you directly accused someone above of).

You insist Putin has no Christian motivation whatsoever.
Are you pretending to be God? A mind reader?
Why not be honest and admit you don’t know.
I don’t know — there I am honest.

Sure, there have been plenty of people in history of have grandstanded for religion for their own purposes.

But there also have been plenty of sincere believers, who have been demonized to say they had no good motivations when in fact they did.

Was George Bush a devil for invading Iraq?

Was Abraham Lincoln a deeply wicked individual for sanctioning the war crimes of Sherman rampaging in the South to bring the war to a more rapid close?

How about the approval of the nuclear bombing at the end of WWII, is that proof Truman was unchristian?
Many people think it saved hundreds of thousands of lives, on balance.

How about Ronald Reagan, was he Satan for the events with the Contras?

Each of these people had a virtuous consciences that were challenged by the realities of governing a nation and world affairs. Yet at the same time they were imperfect humans with selfish and corrupted desires as well. You gonna say they were simply Unchristian?
How easy for you.

For you, you can read minds and it is all black and white.

Putin killed people in Chechnya, so that’s it for you he is the devil.

Do the people victimized by Chechens factor into your thinking even a little bit?

Did you ever consider how many MORE people would have been victimized if it hadn’t been retaken?

Again, the territory of Chechnya was being used as a base to attack the rest of Russia including Daegestan. The problem wasn’t going to go away, it was just a question of how much damage it would be allowed to do.

Doing nothing would make Putin guilty for doing nothing. And how many more people would have been kidnapped and killed by Chechnya’s kidnapping industry? The invasions from expansionist muslims? Then there is all the airplane, school, and theatre terrorism that came out of there.

Would letting that continue really have been “Christian”?

How was he supposed to deal with the problem, ask nicely?


23 posted on 05/18/2014 4:28:32 PM PDT by Mount Athos (A Giant luxury mega-mansion for Gore, a Government Green EcoShack made of poo for you)
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To: Mount Athos
"Building a church or standing up for a religious value does not make a leader a Franco nor a Mussolini. It is idiocy to assert that it does."

No...

"In case your memory is faulty: "No, only oppressive dictators who magically become devout defenders of the faith when it becomes politically convenient. None of these guys were Christian until they needed to portray themselves as traditional, Christian heroes of the nation. In other words, a personality cult tailored for the nation.""

If someone called a man a "heroic figure", and that man happened to make himself dictator, consolidated the state under his sole control, consistently acted to restrict freedoms and enforced all of this with killings, torture and imprisonment, then yes I'm perfectly fine with saying that that person might have supported Franco and Mussolini as well.

Because all three acted oppressively, and used brute force to suppress dissension, yet all the while hid behind a Christian facade. Just because he builds a church, and makes himself the champion of the Roman Catholic Church or Russian Orthodox Church, doesn't even begin to wash away the criminal acts that Putin has done.

You insist Putin has no Christian motivation whatsoever. Are you pretending to be God? A mind reader? Why not be honest and admit you don’t know. I don’t know — there I am honest.

I'm about as sure that Putin is not a real Christian, as I am sure Mussolini, Franco, Obama, Pelosi and Hillary are not real Christians. Because they profess to be Christian, and act to some degree as a Christian would, but at the same time continue to push policies that are distinctively un-Christian.

Was George Bush a devil for invading Iraq? Was Abraham Lincoln a deeply wicked individual for sanctioning the war crimes of Sherman rampaging in the South to bring the war to a more rapid close? How about the approval of the nuclear bombing at the end of WWII, is that proof Truman was unchristian? Many people think it saved hundreds of thousands of lives, on balance. How about Ronald Reagan, was he Satan for the events with the Contras?

First, all of those President was elected in a fair elections. None of these Presidents instituted policies that suppressed dissension with killings, detentions and torture.

Bush, Truman, Lincoln were given explicit authority from Congress to prosecute the wars that they led. All of them made controversial decisions in the national interest, and not their own. While Putin made his bloody decisions to keep himself in power, and enrich himself. The killing of journalists, and contract killings of the opposition make that fairly obvious. (14 years now...)

Bush, Lincoln, Reagan and Truman also had a long history of being a devout Christian. Contrast that to Putin, who conveniently converted to Christianity in 1996 when he first entered politics. And I'm pretty sure Reagan didn't know about the Iran-Contra scandal, negligent to be sure, but hardly criminal.

As for Chechnya, the terrorists that seized the province were evil and indiscriminate. But Putin, the way he shelled entire cities into oblivion, exterminated entire villages, acting in a manner that appeared to be motivated more by inspiring terror and revenge, is as bloodstained as they are. This was overseen by his Muslim lackeys, especially Kadyrov. In short, instead of just targeting the terrorists he targeted everybody in Chechnya that didn't actively support him.

Putin is also perfectly happy with being Iran's lifeline to a nuclear bomb. This is the country that has vowed to wipe Israel off the map. And he also invaded Georgia.

Putin has enough blood on his hands, and his oppression and dictatorial policies that advocate imprisonment and killings of his enemies seems solely focused on keeping himself in power. And the reasons for this is apparent.

What leader circumvents the Russian Constitution like Putin has, running as Prime Minister and then as President again? How would it seem in America, if after 8 years of Bill Clinton, he decided to run as Vice-President to Al Gore and won through rampant electoral fraud. And then after 4 years of Gore, Clinton changes the rules and runs as President again for 6 years?

24 posted on 05/18/2014 5:06:52 PM PDT by Corporate Democrat
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To: varmintman
Explain this...


25 posted on 05/18/2014 8:48:12 PM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: Thunder90

Simple explanation, somebody had more artistic talent than brains...


26 posted on 05/19/2014 4:02:46 AM PDT by varmintman (It must really suck to be a Nazi in Kiev these days...)
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