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Silently among us: Scientists worry about milder cases of MERS
Reuters via Yahoo News ^ | 5/16/14 | Julie Steenhuysen

Posted on 05/18/2014 12:11:24 PM PDT by Kartographer

Scientists leading the fight against Middle East Respiratory Syndrome say the next critical front will be understanding how the virus behaves in people with milder infections, who may be spreading the illness without being aware they have it.

Establishing that may be critical to stopping the spread of MERS, which emerged in the Middle East in 2012 and has so far infected more than 500 patients in Saudi Arabia alone. It kills about 30 percent of those who are infected.

It is becoming increasingly clear that people can be infected with MERS without developing severe respiratory disease, said Dr David Swerdlow, who heads the MERS response team at the U.S. Centers for Disease Control and Prevention.

"You don't have to be in the intensive care unit with pneumonia to have a case of MERS," Swerdlow told Reuters. "We assume they are less infectious (to others), but we don't know."

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TOPICS: News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: health; mersvirus; preparedness; preppers
Some good points in this article. The disease itself isn't the only thing that can kill you during a pandemic.
1 posted on 05/18/2014 12:11:24 PM PDT by Kartographer
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To: appalachian_dweller; OldPossum; DuncanWaring; VirginiaMom; CodeToad; goosie; kalee; ...

Preppers’ PING!!


2 posted on 05/18/2014 12:14:36 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Has anyone checked the small livestock in Sand Savage Land?


3 posted on 05/18/2014 12:17:37 PM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Kartographer

Whenever I see these stories, I immediately get the impression that CDC is trying to buttress its funding.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 12:17:38 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: Kartographer

You mean like Typhoid Mary? Someone posted about her on another MERS thread, yesterday. Sca-eerie!!


5 posted on 05/18/2014 12:18:14 PM PDT by Jane Long (While Marxists continue the fundamental transformation of the USA, progressive RINOs assist!)
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To: what's up

Post like your’s always reminds me of the guy that gets hit by a train when he drives around the railroad crossing gates because they are always malfunctioning.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 12:20:53 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
The Deadly Virus MERS Has Arrived In The US — Here's What You Need To Know
7 posted on 05/18/2014 12:21:03 PM PDT by blam
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To: Jane Long

The human body is an excellent host for a bio weapon.


8 posted on 05/18/2014 12:22:05 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Establishing that may be critical to stopping the spread of MERS, which emerged in the Middle East in 2012 and has so far infected more than 500 patients in Saudi Arabia alone. It kills about 30 percent of those who are infected. It is becoming increasingly clear that people can be infected with MERS without developing severe respiratory disease

In other words, it looks like the disease probably causes mild symptoms in most of the people infected. In the Third World, you generally are only seen by a doctor (and thus your disease recorded and reported) if you are gravely ill.

9 posted on 05/18/2014 12:22:32 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: GladesGuru

Nuke the entire Arabian peninsula. Then declare the locality as too contaminated to enter.

Ever.


10 posted on 05/18/2014 12:24:39 PM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Kartographer

I expect that any moment now somebody will cry “offended” by the name “Middle East disease.”


11 posted on 05/18/2014 12:30:08 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Kartographer
When my husband and I lived in Saudi Arabia for five years, we discovered how rampant so many viruses were.

I got a NASSSTY stomach virus in Syria. The doctor, in Saudi Arabia, (a Saudi Arab trained in the USA) gave me some medicine to cure it.

The kicker is that my husband had to take it too because this stomach problem was sexually trasmittable. The medication worked like a champ. I started to feel better very soon and was A-ok in three days. I never looked back. middle east.

NAAASSSSTY bugs over there. No wonder life spans aren't very long.

12 posted on 05/18/2014 12:33:42 PM PDT by cloudmountain
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To: PapaBear3625

There’s also a equal chance in the Third-world that you got it died of it and other then you immediate family no one took note.


13 posted on 05/18/2014 12:34:34 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: I want the USA back

Let’s call it.....the other swine disease.


14 posted on 05/18/2014 12:38:57 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Kartographer

I just returned from a 2 week transatlantic cruise. Started feeling bad on the flight home from Barcelona. No fever but nasty cough. Now I’m getting paranoid.


15 posted on 05/18/2014 12:44:37 PM PDT by Lacey
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To: Kartographer
This is how Gov't operates...they often create "crises" to justify the funding they get.

We've had these scares dominate the headlines many times in the last years. Just like the weather scares, many of these are false and attempts to keep/get more taxpayer funding.

16 posted on 05/18/2014 12:47:34 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: Kartographer
There’s also a equal chance in the Third-world that you got it died of it and other then you immediate family no one took note.

I disagree. Except for remote areas of Africa and South America, if there is a death, then there is a government report. Particularly if there is potential foreign aid to address whatever the disease was.

Meanwhile, even in the US, a mild flu will just mean the person stays in bed, takes some Tylenol or whatever, and no doctor is ever even notified.

I'm recalling the much-hyped 2002 SARS epidemic and the 2009 H1N1(swine flu) epidemic, neither of which amounted to much in the US.

17 posted on 05/18/2014 12:51:42 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: what's up

This is how Gov’t operates...they often know that a crises is coming and send dis-information agents out to divert attention to the fact that they have ‘dropped the ball’. This is especially the ‘modus operandi’ of the present Government.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 12:52:30 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: what's up
Whenever I see these stories, I immediately get the impression that CDC is trying to buttress its funding.

BINGO!

Remember the annual AIDS conferences when we were solemnly warned that AIDS had broken out into the general population and a country was doomed? It was a different one every year (Uganda, Thailand, Russia, Czech Republic, South Africa...). They finally gave up that game, I guess.

And of course, we all know it's budget time when NASA announces water/life/whatever on the Moon or Mars.

19 posted on 05/18/2014 12:54:02 PM PDT by Forgotten Amendments (Peace On Earth! Purity of Essence! McCain/Ripper 2016)
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To: PapaBear3625

I respectfully disagree with the burial requirements of Islam I am sure it happens in islamic countries all the time as well as those countries which practice quick cremations.


20 posted on 05/18/2014 12:54:49 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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21 posted on 05/18/2014 12:58:12 PM PDT by deoetdoctrinae (Gun-free zones are playgrounds for felons.)
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To: PapaBear3625

I remember my Grandmother recalling the Spanish Flu.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 12:58:41 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

The symptoms of MERS include coughing, fever, mucus — my wife and kids just got over being sick with those symptoms. For all I know, it could have been a mild form of MERS. No doctor was consulted, everybody’s better now, after being sick for 4-7 days with it.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 12:59:03 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625; what's up

If MERS has entered this country because this administration failed to do its due diligence when would you expect them to come forward and admit to it?


24 posted on 05/18/2014 1:03:44 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Lacey

The incubation period for MERS is 12 days. Don’t know if that info will scare you or make you feel better, but though you should know.


25 posted on 05/18/2014 1:13:46 PM PDT by piytar (The predator-class is furious that their prey are shooting back.)
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To: Kartographer
This is how Gov’t operates...they often know that a crises is coming and send dis-information agents

Well, those pandemic scares over the last 2 decades or so haven't materialized so I will go with my theory for now...the CDC wants their taxpayer money.

26 posted on 05/18/2014 1:15:57 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: Forgotten Amendments
And of course, we all know it's budget time when NASA announces water/life/whatever on the Moon or Mars.

Yep.

27 posted on 05/18/2014 1:17:02 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: what's up

With your insistence I stick with mine.


28 posted on 05/18/2014 1:17:28 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
You are assuming that there is anything that any President could do to stop entry of a airborne-spread disease.

In the age of air travel, a person could be infected in China, take a plane to Japan, switching to another plane to LA, switching to a third plane to Chicago, infecting much of his fellow passengers along the way, and all before showing any symptom. How is the federal government going to stop an infected but asymptomatic US citizen from returning home?

Meanwhile, 77% of those infected with flu are asymptomatic, and so would not give any indication that they were sick, while passing along the flu to the people around them.

29 posted on 05/18/2014 1:18:18 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Kartographer
I assumed you would.

But my observation is that scares are often intended to get Federal funding (global warming being the biggest fraud for this purpose). And all those pandemic scares have come to naught over the years.

This is how the Federal Gov't operates and many still don't get it.

30 posted on 05/18/2014 1:20:36 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: PapaBear3625

No I always assume even if there was something he could do he most likely would bother with it and that seems just fine with some people.But you still didn’t answer the question would you expect this administration to come straight out and tell the truth about such a situation?


31 posted on 05/18/2014 1:21:18 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer

Import some of that Middle East camel meat, infected by bat feces, and you will have a MERS problem. Word of caution, don’t eat imported camel meat.

Another caution, don’t eat human flesh like they are doing over there. It will give you Kuru or as tribemen call it, the “laughing sickness” as your nervous system shuts down. The Islamo-Fascists are slaughtering Christians and eating their flesh. Don’t confuse MERS with Kuru. To be safe, don’t live over there for any amount of money.

Is there any cure for this stuff or is this part of the depopulation program?


32 posted on 05/18/2014 1:21:43 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: what's up

Yes I get it this administration has shown far more that they practice and are masters of disinformation far more than scare tactics and some people can see it even after 5 years of it.


33 posted on 05/18/2014 1:23:44 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: Kartographer
Pretending that some of these pandemics are real threats IS disinformation.

That's my point.

The federal Gov't does stuff like this all the time to get more funding.

34 posted on 05/18/2014 1:27:20 PM PDT by what's up (sun)
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To: what's up

“There is no greater disaster than to underestimate danger. Underestimation can be fatal.”

It causes people to underestimate both the possibility of a disaster occurring and its possible effects. This often results in situations where people fail to adequately prepare for a disaster, and on a larger scale, the failure of governments to include the populace in its disaster preparations. The assumption that is made in the case of the normalcy bias is that since a disaster never has occurred then it never will occur. It also results in the inability of people to cope with a disaster once it occurs. People with a normalcy bias have difficulties reacting to something they have not experienced before. People also tend to interpret warnings in the most optimistic way possible, seizing on any ambiguities to infer a less serious situation.

A good article on ‘Normalcy Bias’ is on our own ChocChipCookies Blog The Survival Mom:

http://thesurvivalmom.com/2010/12/29/normalcy-bias/


35 posted on 05/18/2014 1:44:57 PM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: PapaBear3625

You raise a good question about the health of passengers on board airliners. If I were a terrorist, germ warfare would do more damage than blowing up an airplane. Are we entering an age when pre-flight medical examinations are necessary for all passengers coming into the United States? Will that include X-rays to screen for implantable explosive devices?


36 posted on 05/18/2014 1:52:22 PM PDT by jonrick46 (The opium of Communists: other people's money.)
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To: Kartographer

I said it before on other threads about MERS. I think it’s a biological attack on the U.S. Seemingly healthy visitors from the Middle East come to the U.S., on vacation or whatever, become ill with MERS (that they’ve apparently been carrying) get treated and all the while spread it to hospital workers, who in turn bring home to their families, who in turn....


37 posted on 05/18/2014 3:27:49 PM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Kartographer
would you expect this administration to come straight out and tell the truth about such a situation?

I would expect them to lie about what Obama had for breakfast. The only words that will ever come out of the Administration is whatever they calculate will improve their political position. All else will go unmentioned.

38 posted on 05/19/2014 3:25:46 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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