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CA Gov. Jerry Brown: These early wildfires are pretty much due to climate change, you know
Hotair ^ | 05/18/2014 | Erika Johnsen

Posted on 05/18/2014 3:54:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Like every other self-aggrandizing environmentalist who isn’t partial to entertaining questions that could possibly challenge the green gospel, California Gov. Jerry Brown seized the opportunity to stress the all-consuming, catastrophic imminence of climate change on ABC’s This Week this morning:

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It is true that there’s virtually no Republican who accepts the science that virtually is unanimous. I mean, there is no scientific question. There’s just political denial for various reasons, best known to those people who are in denial. … But, you know, we live in a world that is not just government or not just business. It’s natural, the natural systems. As we send billions and billions of tons of heat-trapping gases, we get heat and we get fires and we get what we’re seeing. So, we’ve got to gear up. We’re going to deal with nature as best we can, but humanity is on a collision course with nature and we’re just going to have to adapt to it in the best way we can.

Brown does mention one of the most ragingly responsible factors for California’s early fire season — a growing and spreading population, increased industrial and commercial activity, and straight-up arson — as well as the importance of carefully cultivating wildfire preparedness and adaptation. What he neglects to mention, as do most environmentalists, is the possibility that the environmentalist-sponsored policies that governed much of the arid West for decades created ideal conditions to dry out ecosystems. California has its own individual conditions to deal with, but as ever with the progressive set, the overwhelming cause must be climate change, about which, according to Brown, “there is no scientific question” because the science is “virtually unanimous” and Republicans are the only one who don’t absolutely accept it. …Oh, wait, check it out — I found a possible scientific question!

As firefighters struggle to contain the wind-fueled blazes, meteorologists and scientists say the fires could signal an especially active fire season for Southern California, fed by the wind, above-normal temperatures and tinder-dry vegetation.

But it’s not clear if the fires represent a new normal for expanded fire seasons, which typically start in summer, as it’s impossible to tie specific weather and fire events to climate change.

“What we’re seeing right now is just a real anomaly,” said Norman Miller, an expert in regional climate and hydrology at the University of California, Berkeley. “Whether it’s part of natural variability or climate change, we need to have a longer record of occurrences so we can construct a trend and make sense out of it.” …

Miller, for his part, has run computer models predicting that climate change could extend the traditionally October to November Santa Ana season, with increasing winds in December and January. But that still wouldn’t explain why they’ve come in May this year. …

“We’re fire prone almost every year,” he said. “It doesn’t mean we’re not linked to climate change. It’s just a more complex set of ecosystems.”



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Mexico; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; climatechange; globalwarminghoax; jerrybrown; mexico; wildfire

1 posted on 05/18/2014 3:54:42 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

and nothing to do with California being mostly Desert


2 posted on 05/18/2014 3:56:15 PM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: SeekAndFind

Uh, no, Jer. I don’t know that.


3 posted on 05/18/2014 3:56:47 PM PDT by stboz
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To: SeekAndFind

Actually, Jerry, these wildfires are pretty much due to people setting them. At least that is what the AP reports. You’ve had a dry year, but over time, that’s to be expected periodically and is part of being on the edge of a desert.


4 posted on 05/18/2014 4:00:20 PM PDT by JimSEA
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To: SeekAndFind

California and other western states have wildfires every year. They can happen any time of year. They happened before liberals decided that we have global warming. They will still happen even if Obama’s EPA institutes strict standards on power plants. They will still happen even if we institute a cap and trade system. They will still happen even if Obama parks Air Force One and doesn’t go on vacation anymore.


5 posted on 05/18/2014 4:02:56 PM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: SeekAndFind

What would really clinch this proof, would be if any other unknown phenomena hit California, for instance, an earthquake, or a mud slide.


6 posted on 05/18/2014 4:02:59 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: SeekAndFind
Jerry Brown: gaslighting us on "climate change":

To gaslight an entire society you have to get them to keep silent. You have to convince people that everyone sane believes what you do. Those other people? Oh, those are fringe voices, those are crazy and/or stupid. The good people are all with us. - Sarah A. Hoyt

Gaslighting - According to Hoyt
http://accordingtohoyt.com/2014/05/16/gaslighting/

Gaslighting
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/3157198/posts

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Stuff it, Brown, you lying sack.

7 posted on 05/18/2014 4:05:59 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: SeekAndFind

I read that the authorities have already concluded they were all due to arson,

Guess what Moonbeam means is that Climate Change makes people angry enough they resort to arson.

In other words, no one is at fault, so empty the prisons. It is not their fault.


8 posted on 05/18/2014 4:06:37 PM PDT by bestintxas (Every time a RINO bites the dust a founding father gets his wings)
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To: SeekAndFind
"we need to have a longer record of occurrences so we can construct a trend and make sense out of it.”

This is the kind of academic stupidity that's rife in the U.S. right now. Mr. Miller, stroll over to the geology department at Berkeley. It won't take you long to find an expert on California's paleoclimate who'll give you a very long record of periodic droughts in the state. Some have lasted a very long time 75 to 250 years. That's real climate change and humans have nothing to do with it.

9 posted on 05/18/2014 4:06:56 PM PDT by Bernard Marx
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To: SeekAndFind

The guy that they’ve arrested....is his name Global Warming?


10 posted on 05/18/2014 4:09:12 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Bernard Marx

jerry brown is such a clueless twit. His understanding of anything leaves a lot to be desired. He is old and doesn’t have to long to live with the results of his inferior intellect and understanding. Who are the defective ones who elect such subhuman debris?


11 posted on 05/18/2014 4:12:33 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Or it could be arson.

http://www.ktvu.com/news/news/arson-suspect-charged-most-blazes-dying-down/nfyc2/


12 posted on 05/18/2014 4:15:32 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: SeekAndFind

What is the primary cause of your brain damage, Gov. Brown?


13 posted on 05/18/2014 4:15:53 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: hal ogen

Sadly he has no fear of not being reelected in 2014. He will coast right through and be the Governor again. At least he is DEFINITELY too old to be President because I fear that he probably could be after his 2 terms as Governor and he seems to have at least equalized the economy there.


14 posted on 05/18/2014 4:21:15 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: SeekAndFind

AW GEEZ EDITH!


15 posted on 05/18/2014 4:40:27 PM PDT by high info voter
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To: JimSEA

“Actually, Jerry, these wildfires are pretty much due to people setting them. At least that is what the AP reports. You’ve had a dry year, but over time, that’s to be expected periodically and is part of being on the edge of a desert.”

Most of California isn’t on the edge of a desert - it is a desert. We yell that at politicians every time they blather about us having a drought - “California’s a DESERT!!!!”


16 posted on 05/18/2014 4:51:36 PM PDT by Blackhawk45 (It's called the Bill of Rights.......NOT the Bill of Privileges!!!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Using Progressive language logic bending redefinition, I guess you could redefine “arsonists” as “climate change” and get away with it with the “47% portion” of the brain dead population.


17 posted on 05/18/2014 4:54:51 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (Progressives (communists) lie because their expectations and promises never match reality.)
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To: JimSEA
Soros and Steyer probably hired some illegals to set the fires.


18 posted on 05/18/2014 5:08:14 PM PDT by RightGeek (FUBO and the donkey you rode in on)
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To: SeekAndFind

naw, i think the’re due to stray moonbeams or maybe that malathion stuff they sprayed.


19 posted on 05/18/2014 5:12:52 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: AdmSmith; AnonymousConservative; Berosus; bigheadfred; Bockscar; cardinal4; ColdOne; ...

Feinstein: Enviros no help on California drought


20 posted on 05/18/2014 5:14:10 PM PDT by SunkenCiv (https://secure.freerepublic.com/donate/ http://www.freerepublic.com/~bigheadfred/)
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To: SeekAndFind

Only if the two guys they arrested for arson are named Climate and Change.


21 posted on 05/18/2014 5:23:30 PM PDT by anoldafvet (If you think the government is capable of taking care of you, just look at the indian tribes)
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To: SeekAndFind

And the ends justify the means. And the ends is the socialist control of the means of production.


22 posted on 05/18/2014 5:27:26 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: anoldafvet

I understood that all but one were thought arson.
Too bad Moonbeam.


23 posted on 05/18/2014 5:29:34 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Brown's theme song is from The Wizard of OZ--The scarecrow's song--If I Only Had a Brain.

vaudie

24 posted on 05/18/2014 5:38:55 PM PDT by vaudine
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To: SeekAndFind

The Santa Ana winds and the accompanying raging wildfires have been a part of the ecosystem of the Los Angeles Basin for over 5,000 years, dating back to the earliest habitation of the region by the Tongva and Tataviam peoples.[12]

The Santa Ana winds have been recognized and reported in English-language records as a weather phenomenon in Southern California since at least the mid-1800s.[1] Various episodes of hot, dry winds have been described over this history as dust storms, hurricane-force winds, and violent north-easters, damaging houses and destroying fruit orchards. Newspaper archives have many photographs of regional damage dating back to the beginnings of news reporting in Los Angeles. When the Los Angeles Basin was primarily an agricultural region, the winds were feared particularly by farmers for their potential to destroy crops.[1]

The winds are also associated with some of the area’s largest and deadliest wildfires, including the state’s largest fire on record, the Cedar Fire, as well as the Laguna Fire, Old Fire, Esperanza Fire, Santiago Canyon Fire of 1889 and the Witch Fire.

In October 2007, the winds fueled major wild fires and house burnings in Escondido, Malibu, Rainbow, San Marcos, Carlsbad, Rancho Bernardo, Poway, Ramona, and in the major cities of San Bernardino, San Diego and Los Angeles. The Santa Ana winds were also a factor in the November 2008 California wildfires.

In December 2011, the winds led to “state of emergency” declarations in several municipalities after 80+ mph gusts toppled hundreds of trees, power lines, and traffic signals throughout the San Gabriel Valley. Approximately 230,000 people were left without power for an extended period after the incident.[13]

In May 2014, the winds initiated the San Diego County fires, months after the Colby Fire in northern Los Angeles County.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Santa_Ana_winds#Historical_impact


25 posted on 05/18/2014 5:49:55 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: SeekAndFind

Drought is a recurrent theme in history to southern California and long, long predates the modern era. It was drought that sunk a thriving ranching culture in southern California in the 1800s. Some periods of drought in southern California have lasted 200 years, the geographic records of thousands of years show. There is NOTHING unnatural about present climate conditions in southern California.


26 posted on 05/18/2014 6:35:18 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: SeekAndFind

BS, they are trying to make it appear as if he consults his wife and she may say no, helps with the women vote...oh and moderate freepers,,,,


27 posted on 05/18/2014 6:43:41 PM PDT by stockpirate (Only a tidal wave of tyrants blood will return our tree of liberty......)
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To: SeekAndFind

Arsons in support of Global Warming...


28 posted on 05/18/2014 11:32:49 PM PDT by Birdsbane ("Onward through the fog!" ... Oat Willie)
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