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BREAKING: Smart Gun Maker Filed Patent for Remote Kill Switch
thetruthaboutguns.com ^ | 5/18/2014 | Robert Farago

Posted on 05/19/2014 6:48:49 AM PDT by rktman

An alert reader emailed TTAG central with news that Armatix GmbH - makers of the iP1 “smart gun” – filed a patent application that included a remote kill switch for the firearm. Click here to view patent EP 1936572 A1, dated 2006. (Not a bug; a feature!) I’m not a patent attorney or an electrical engineer, but as far as I can tell this is the bit (translated from the original German) that indicates remote disabling . . .

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: 2a; banglist; guncontrol
Kinda like "onstar" in your gm vehicle. But, can it also give you directions to Billy Bobs Burger Barn? My choice, NEVER EVER even think about buying a stupid "smart" gun.
1 posted on 05/19/2014 6:48:49 AM PDT by rktman
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To: rktman

I want no silicon diodes coming between the trigger and the primer ever no way


2 posted on 05/19/2014 6:51:40 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: rktman
Why would a decent, law abiding citizen have anything to worry about with this feature? </sarc>
3 posted on 05/19/2014 6:51:50 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: rktman

Mine already have kill switches. Not remote ones tho. Except as needed.


4 posted on 05/19/2014 6:52:40 AM PDT by Rannug ("all enemies, foreign and domestic")
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To: rktman

Well, if the do-it-yourself 3D gun-printing industry needed any incentives, I guess having big name manufacturers moving toward kill switch implementation would do it.


5 posted on 05/19/2014 6:52:41 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

A government that can remotely shut down your electric ,power,water,communications,and firearms is the dream of socialists everywhere.


6 posted on 05/19/2014 6:54:41 AM PDT by hoosierham (Freedom isn't free)
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To: hoosierham

Yup. Stalin and Mao found famines to be very useful tools, but they were kind of messy and a lot of work. If the government can shutdown individuals, or neighborhoods, or cities, then you get surgical terror strikes. Pacification would be an easy thing.


7 posted on 05/19/2014 6:57:30 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: rktman

Gun enthusiasts knew that this would be the norm years ago when “smart” gun technology was first proposed.


8 posted on 05/19/2014 7:01:03 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Rannug

Before the Tragic Boating Accident, the universal kill switches on mine were called the triggers.


9 posted on 05/19/2014 7:05:30 AM PDT by libstripper
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To: rktman

I probably shouldn’t have noticed that this was invented in Germany.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 7:06:01 AM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: rktman

Breaking NEWS!!! Hacker circumvents smart gun technology and renders kill switch useless.


11 posted on 05/19/2014 7:06:41 AM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: rktman

PING


12 posted on 05/19/2014 7:08:22 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: rktman
Why would a decent, law abiding citizen have anything to worry about with this feature? </sarc>
13 posted on 05/19/2014 7:12:37 AM PDT by Gamecock (#BringTheAdultsBackToDC)
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To: rktman
I thought a firearm WAS a remote kill switch. /s

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14 posted on 05/19/2014 7:18:45 AM PDT by LonePalm (Commander and Chef)
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To: null and void

Ping!


15 posted on 05/19/2014 7:19:34 AM PDT by Slings and Arrows (You can't have Ingsoc without an Emmanuel Goldstein.)
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To: rktman

This is for your safety and for the children. It’s the OnStar version for firearms.


16 posted on 05/19/2014 7:28:05 AM PDT by Boanarges
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To: harpseal; TexasCowboy; nunya bidness; blackie; AAABEST; Travis McGee; Squantos; wku man; SLB; ...
We all saw this coming from a lightyear away.

Click the Gadsden flag for pro-gun resources!

17 posted on 05/19/2014 7:32:31 AM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: al baby

Agreed, but there are a number of ways that the firing of the weapon could be done conventionally, but the mechanism inhibited from operating by means of a remote system, which is what this patent does. They describe using biometric sensors (like a fingerprint) and other ways to enable the gun to operate, but nothing of the details about how the inhibiting function would be integrated with the actual firearm. Most likely it would require an electrical actuator like a solenoid or motor that would lock up the trigger, or something like that.

A wholly bad idea, but this patent cites much prior art, since there’s nothing new about the basic concept.


18 posted on 05/19/2014 7:46:00 AM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: rktman

I thought about this a long time ago. Now seeing it patented, I’m tempted to try to think of all the other evil things that a gun-grabbing tyrant might want to do, patent them, and then refuse to license them to anyone.


19 posted on 05/19/2014 7:52:01 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Boanarges

OnStar

And we bill you monthly on your credit card.

If you don’t pay, your gun is shut off.

You pull the trigger, signal goes to satellite for permission to fire, but your account is shut off, so no return signal to fire is sent.

Technology is good.


20 posted on 05/19/2014 8:13:06 AM PDT by Scrambler Bob (You can count my felonies by looking at my FR replies.)
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To: libstripper
Before the Tragic Boating Accident, the universal kill switches on mine were called the triggers.

ROFLMAO! Yeah, I agree 100% about the triggers.

And you too? Man, those boats are deadly to firearms. All of mine sank in about 5,000 feet of ocean. It was tragic.

21 posted on 05/19/2014 8:21:49 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: Scrambler Bob

Can you shoot me now can you shoot me now Oh hell what could go wrong


22 posted on 05/19/2014 8:24:39 AM PDT by al baby (Hi MomÂ…)
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To: rktman

If this worthless piece of trash is mandated, I’d bet there will be plans on the Internet to convert it to a real firearm before it even hits the stores. I consider the cost of disabling the SmartGun feature to be part of the cost of buying one of these - and only if no real firearms can legally be sold.


23 posted on 05/19/2014 9:24:27 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: rktman

Gosh, what a surprise. “You can keep and bear arms, sure, but you can’t shoot them without permission.” There are, as of 2009, some 310 million firearms in the United States. There are certain prohibitionists who think if they get the right laws passed they’ll all be turned in. They’ll be used before that happens.


24 posted on 05/19/2014 10:08:33 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: rktman

And of course it will be a severly punished federal felony to tamper with or render obsolete the technology.


25 posted on 05/19/2014 10:46:15 AM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: ExSoldier

So many of us FReepers have suffered these Tragedies, it’s obvious we should get rid of all our boats or our nearest relatives should impose immediate guardianships on us. Incredible what horrible boaters we are.


26 posted on 05/19/2014 3:31:29 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: hoosierham

>>> A government that can remotely shut down your electric ,power,water,communications,and firearms is the dream of socialists everywhere.

And your car. Don’t forget your car. That technology has already been invented - the version that works in coordination with OnStar once the owner reports it stolen - but TPTB haven’t yet managed to require this “feature” on all new models of cars. Don’t worry; I’m sure once it’s added onto every newly manufactured vehicle, costs will come down. And you need never worry about hackers. They’re already against the law. Nor will law enforcement agencies or government regulatory beaurocrats ever abuse the ability to point a remote control at your auto or the one next to you or in front of you, and shut off its engine. Not in the absense of eminent need to save human life. These people only are our friends and are here to help us. Why do you call them socialists like it’s a bad thing? What could possibly be wrong about that, Citizen?


27 posted on 05/20/2014 3:49:22 AM PDT by Titan Magroyne (What one person receives without working for, another person must work for without receiving.)
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To: libstripper
Sssshhhhhhhhh!

The next thing you know, some DWEEB in the Administration will demand Boat Control. First comes registration... Oh wait ... that's already in force...

Next there will be mandatory training before you can take control of a "big boat," Wait... wait... that's already done...

There's nothing left for our Nanny gubmint to do but to come confiscate our dangerous boats for the greater public good. They already know where they are and the owners are already licensed, so Big Brother will know where they're located ....

28 posted on 05/20/2014 8:11:24 AM PDT by ExSoldier (Stand up and be counted... OR LINE UP AND BE NUMBERED...)
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To: rktman

who wouldn’t want one of those... /s/s/s


29 posted on 05/20/2014 8:30:27 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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