Skip to comments.Lessons of the VA Scandal: Wait-listed till you die is what you expect from gov't-run health care
Posted on 05/19/2014 8:26:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
If our government has any obligation to fulfill its many promises on health care, it should be first and foremost to the men and women who served in our armed forces. But the scandal over hidden waiting lists at a growing number of veterans hospitals (seven so far) wherein dozens of veterans died while waiting months for vital treatment, and the VA covered up the lengthy wait times should make everyone wonder whether we can place our trust in a government-managed health-care system. The Dayton Daily News reported on Sunday that its investigation of a database of claims paid by the Department of Veterans Affairs shows that the words delay in treatment were used 167 times. The VA paid out a total of $36.4 million to settle the claims. There could well be many more cases of death by delay at the VA that never came to light.
Are there lessons in the VA scandal for the rest of us if Obamacare survives and even expands?
You betcha. The first lesson is that as government expands taxpayer subsidies for health care, the demand will always outstrip supply. Here is President Obama in a speech to disabled veterans in August 2013:
The last time I was with you, I pledged to cut the backlog, slash those wait times, deliver your benefits sooner. And Im going to be honest with you; it has not moved as fast as I wanted. Part of it is all these new veterans in the system who came in Agent Orange, PTSD. It means a lot more claims, and despite additional resources, its resulted in longer waits. And thats been unacceptable unacceptable to me, unacceptable to [Department of Veterans Affairs] Secretary [Eric] Shinseki.
A few weeks later, President Obama had to admit that he found the fiasco of the HealthCare.gov website also unacceptable. Last week, his aides told reporters he was madder than hell over the veteran waiting-list scandal.
Theres a lot to be mad about at the Department of Veterans Affairs. Michael Tanner of the Cato Institute notes that more than 344,000 claims for veterans care are backed up and waiting to be processed. It takes an average of 160 days for a veteran to be approved for health benefits, and the VA itself estimates that is has an error rate of at least 9 percent in processing claims. According to VA figures for 2012, as reported by the Washington Post, a veteran who takes an appeal through all available administrative steps faces an average wait of 1,598 days. Thats more than four years of waiting.
Obamacare will dramatically expand access to the health-care system at the same time that many surveys show doctors are likely to retire or cut back their hours. It is almost inevitable that well see more waiting-list scandals as the need to ration care grows.
This is the record of many single-payer health-care systems, and both Obama and the Senate majority leader, Harry Reid, have said that establishing a single-payer system is their long-term goal. In 2003, Obama, then an Illinois state senator, told an AFL-CIO conference: I happen to be a proponent of a single-payer universal health-care program. . . . But as all of you know, we may not get there immediately. Similarly, Majority Leader Reid told a PBS interview show in Nevada, in October 2013: What weve done with Obamacare is have a step in the right direction, but were far from having something thats going to work forever. When he was asked by a panelist whether he meant that ultimately the country would need a health-care system that abandoned insurance as the means of accessing it, Reid said: Yes, yes. Absolutely yes.
But, if the experience of other countries is any guide, a single-payer health-care plan or even government-managed care brings all kinds of waiting lists with it. In 2012, it was discovered that more than 7,000 patients in just a few Scottish hospitals had been wrongly removed from waiting lists for surgery in order to pretend to meet government targets for treatment. One trick was offering to perform surgery on a date when hospital officials knew a patient would be away on holiday, then dropping the patient from the wait list for refusing the date.
Sarah Boyack, a member of the Scottish Parliament, called the figure of 7,000 astonishing, given that an extra five million pounds [$8 million] has been pumped into the NHS [National Health Service] to help cut the waiting list in the affected hospitals.
Not that NHS patients in hospitals without waiting-list scandals are that much better off. In all of the United Kingdom, NHS patients wait an average of about eight weeks for treatments that require admission to a hospital, four weeks for out-patient treatments, and two weeks for diagnostic tests. While NHS patients have a choice of hospitals, they cannot always choose their specialist.
The situation in Canada, a nation whose government-run health-care system has long been touted by liberal supporters of government in health care, is also dire. Last year, the respected Fraser Institute published a study on Canadian wait times for surgery. Among its finding are these:
In 2013, those requiring orthopaedic surgery were forced to endure waits of more than nine months (39.6 weeks) to receive treatment, while others had to wait for slightly more than four months (17.4 weeks) just to receive an appointment with a neurosurgeon. On the other hand, cancer patients in line for radiation therapy faced the shortest expected wait times for treatment after referral by a general practitioner (3.5 weeks).
Currently, one in 34 Canadians may be in pain, off work, or suffering from depression as they wait their turn for treatment.
The 2013 median waiting time of 18.2 weeks is about three days longer than 2012, and substantially longer than 1993 when it was just 9.3 weeks.
Bacchus Barua, the Fraser Institutes senior health-policy analyst and the reports lead author, writes: Simply putting someone on a list is not the same as providing necessary medical attention in a timely manner.
The veterans hospital scandals now in the news in the United States show just how bad things can get when the pressure of patient demand and waiting lists affects bureaucratic behavior. As many as 40 veterans reportedly died at a Phoenix veterans facility because they couldnt get the care they needed. VA administrators there and at other hospitals apparently covered it up by establishing secret waiting lists and falsifying reports.
No one is suggesting that such scandals are widespread in the general health-care system. But they should serve as a warning sign of what could happen as the pressure to ration, inherent in all government-managed health care, is applied to the general population.
John Fund is national-affairs columnist at National Review Online.
Those Only-CRAZY-People-Think-They-Are-Death-Panels Death Panels that Sarah Palin was talking about.
A world where an uncaring government wonk, like the lady at the DMV, decides if you live or die.
Do bureaucrats who determine “wait lists” qualify as death panels?
Thank you for the post.
I had a great uncle, WWI vet who survived being gassed, who went to the VA for varicose vein treatment around 1959. They ended up amputating both of his legs.
My father-in-law, WWII ETO Vet began went to VA treatment center near South Bend, Indiana, beginning in 2009. They misdiagnosed him which led to his death 2 years later because they were treating him for the wrong health problem, they never figured out what the autopsy showed as the EASILY TREATABLE illness that caused his death.
How long does it take a Democrat to get food stamps?
VA healthcare was Obamacare before it became the “hip” thing to vote for.
Your post #5 is two examples of what ObamaCare has in store for all of us.
That is exactly my intent for posting them.
It might prove useful to examine the voting records and party affiliation of those veterans who were sentenced to die.
It may provide insight to what ezekiel emmanuel meant when he suggested that health care be rationed according to one’s usefulness to the community.
Democrat = health care; Republican = death.
One of the problems was that at many VA hospitals, open heart surgery would not be performed until 4 tests were done. I forget what they were, but the tests had to be done in sequence and there was a waiting list to take them. The end result was that many of those who needed the surgery died before the tests could be all performed(often a year later). This is per a resident MD in a VA hospital who left the system.
I’m so sorry to hear of these tragedies.
Thank you. However my reasons for posting are to share family experiences with the VA medical system and to point out that the VA is GOVERNMENT PROVIDED health care.
For folks who are screaming “I want Obamacare” just ask them if they would want to be treated by the VA. If they say “No” then tell them that once “obamacare” is fully enacted, it will make current VA health care look fantastically great.
And I am keenly aware of the wheels of government run medical care. I am an Army brat - and know what it is like to wait in line for often disappointing health care.