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Lessons of the VA Scandal: Wait-listed till you die is what you expect from gov't-run health care
National Review ^ | 05/19/2014 | John Fund

Posted on 05/19/2014 8:26:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind



TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bho44; bhoveterans; government; healthcare; obamacarefuture; obamacarelies; obamalies; obamavahospitals; scandal; va; vahospitals; vawaitlistscandal

1 posted on 05/19/2014 8:26:22 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Those Only-CRAZY-People-Think-They-Are-Death-Panels Death Panels that Sarah Palin was talking about.

A world where an uncaring government wonk, like the lady at the DMV, decides if you live or die.


2 posted on 05/19/2014 8:32:24 AM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: SeekAndFind
0bamacare will be the medical equivalent of the DMV.
3 posted on 05/19/2014 8:37:07 AM PDT by SunTzuWu
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To: SeekAndFind

Do bureaucrats who determine “wait lists” qualify as death panels?


4 posted on 05/19/2014 9:14:28 AM PDT by wildbill
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To: SeekAndFind; skinkinthegrass; onedoug; 2ndDivisionVet; ConorMacNessa; zot; NKP_Vet; PROCON; ...

Thank you for the post.

I had a great uncle, WWI vet who survived being gassed, who went to the VA for varicose vein treatment around 1959. They ended up amputating both of his legs.

My father-in-law, WWII ETO Vet began went to VA treatment center near South Bend, Indiana, beginning in 2009. They misdiagnosed him which led to his death 2 years later because they were treating him for the wrong health problem, they never figured out what the autopsy showed as the EASILY TREATABLE illness that caused his death.


5 posted on 05/19/2014 9:33:13 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

How long does it take a Democrat to get food stamps?


6 posted on 05/19/2014 9:34:47 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: SeekAndFind

VA healthcare was Obamacare before it became the “hip” thing to vote for.


7 posted on 05/19/2014 9:41:57 AM PDT by TADSLOS (The Event Horizon has come and gone. Buckle up and hang on.)
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To: GreyFriar

Your post #5 is two examples of what ObamaCare has in store for all of us.


8 posted on 05/19/2014 10:38:29 AM PDT by zot
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To: zot

That is exactly my intent for posting them.


9 posted on 05/19/2014 10:51:48 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: SeekAndFind

It might prove useful to examine the voting records and party affiliation of those veterans who were sentenced to die.

It may provide insight to what ezekiel emmanuel meant when he suggested that health care be rationed according to one’s usefulness to the community.

Democrat = health care; Republican = death.


10 posted on 05/19/2014 10:59:31 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: tcrlaf

One of the problems was that at many VA hospitals, open heart surgery would not be performed until 4 tests were done. I forget what they were, but the tests had to be done in sequence and there was a waiting list to take them. The end result was that many of those who needed the surgery died before the tests could be all performed(often a year later). This is per a resident MD in a VA hospital who left the system.


11 posted on 05/19/2014 2:52:27 PM PDT by tired&retired
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To: GreyFriar

I’m so sorry to hear of these tragedies.


12 posted on 05/19/2014 7:12:49 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: Alamo-Girl

Dear A-G,

Thank you. However my reasons for posting are to share family experiences with the VA medical system and to point out that the VA is GOVERNMENT PROVIDED health care.

For folks who are screaming “I want Obamacare” just ask them if they would want to be treated by the VA. If they say “No” then tell them that once “obamacare” is fully enacted, it will make current VA health care look fantastically great.


13 posted on 05/19/2014 7:18:15 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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Nevertheless, I'm very sorry to hear of these tragedies.

And I am keenly aware of the wheels of government run medical care. I am an Army brat - and know what it is like to wait in line for often disappointing health care.

14 posted on 05/19/2014 7:28:29 PM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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