Skip to comments.Ben Carson educates NBC’s David Gregory on slavery, Obamacare and neo-Marxists (VIDEO)
Posted on 05/19/2014 8:40:14 AM PDT by PoloSec
Appearing Sunday on NBCs Meet the Press, Ben Carson stood by an earlier comment he made about Obamacare being the worst thing since slavery.
Speaking at the Values Voter Summit in October, the retired neurosurgeon said the Affordable Care Act is the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.
And it is in a way, he said then. It is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control.
Host David Gregory ran a clip of the comment, then put Carson on the spot.
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First, recognize what I said, Carson replied. The worst thing since slavery. I didnt say it was slavery.
You said it is slavery in a way, Gregory chimed in, reading Carsons quote back to him.
In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life, Carson answered, showing a verbal fluency that rivals the great orator of the left, Barack Obama. And, when you take the most important thing you have, which is your health care, and you put that in the hands of government bureaucrats, I think you have done the wrong thing.
Carson made reference to neo-Marxist literature, which had the assembled panels full attention.
You go back and look at the neo-Marxist literature and look at what they say, you dont have to look at what I say, about taking control of the health care of a populace and making the people dependent, he said. This is not what America is about.
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The liberals will criticize and demonize Dr. Carson. Even though he’s black, and theoretically part of a grievance group which cannot be criticized, the exception to that is that Carson is not liberal.
To the liberal, if you are a minority, homosexual, female, you by definition are supposed to be liberal and find your political home in the Democrat party. It offends their sensibilities to find members of their favorite groups which think for themselves and don’t fall in line with the liberal theology on the subjects being discussed.
Just another veiled racial attack on Barack Obama by another self-hating black. (/Gregory)
When Gregory or any MSM clone takes issue with him I’d love to see Carson say; “You don’t agree with me? Are you racist?”
Of course this goes for Cain, West, Elder, Sowell, et. al.
Dr. Carson sure hit a nerve here, didn't he?
I want him to run so I can watch him debate.
How dare Dr. Carson stray off the liberal reservation and challenge their authority. Don’t these people of color know how how good the Democratic Party is to them? What an Uncle Tom! Tell me if you don’t think David Gregory wasn’t thinking that?
In essence they have traded the Plantation for the Reservation.
Love Dr. Carson.
Yeah, what does he think he is -- a brain surgeon?
With any luck, more than a few lightbulbs went on in black Democrat households upon hearing that sentence.
I still have to believe that there will still be a fairly good number of Blacks who will vote for a Black man for Prez even if he is running on the GOP Ticket. Same for Hispanics.
His soft voice and calm presentation makes it difficult for rats to characterize him as a typical Tea Party supporter who knuckle-drags and is a retard.
I’m hearing he has some opinions on the 2nd amendment that may be of a concern, other than that he is a libs worst nightmare. An educated black man who is where he is because he did it himself and throws the BS flag on obama every chance he gets.
Adam Smith, in 1775, along with the wise Founders of America, seemed to be quite clear that individual liberty and limited government power were and are the foundation stones of opportunity, creativity, prosperity, and wealth creation. That principle applies to all people in all places of the globe, in every century.
Every step away from the American Constitution's principles and protections for individual liberty and its limits on coercive power has served to reduce wealth creation and to increase poverty.
Let there be no mistake: Democrats never waged a "war on poverty"!
There was a war on "the People's" Constitutional limits on their elected representatives' use of coercive power to "take" and "redistribute" the people's earnings, under the guise of "helping" some.
Growing a voter base in order to retain power ceded to them by kind-hearted American citizens who could not distinguish between the merits of private charity and the dangers of coercive collective power has brought us to today's debt, deficits and endangered liberty for all citizens.
Perhaps a reading of Congressman Davy Crockett's (TN) experience might be a revealing exercise for those who don't see the dangers of turning over our individual responsibilities to those who promise to "help us."
The current Democrat appeal for "fair share" and against "inequality of income" represent a form of "slavery" by another name. Government "masters" buy votes in exchange for retaining their "master redistributionist" status, while their "voters" yield up freedom for themselves and future generations.
"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. LewisHear Samuel Adams:
"Is it now high time for the people of this country to explicitly declare whether they will be free men or slaves. It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice. - Samuel Adams
The utopian schemes of leveling and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. These ideas are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government unconstitutional. - Samuel Adams
If you love Dr Carson, you’re a racist!
Let’s see: The government purposely makes the costs of Obamacommiecare so high that the majority of people can’t afford it. Then in come the fines - oh excuse me - “taxes” that will be levied on these people for not buying Obamacommiecare. And we just know these “taxes” are never going to go higher, yeah and Pelosi is a conservative. So what you end up with is communism brought in through the back door. The government now has a reason to take anything and everything you own if you can’t pay these “taxes”, in essence you are now a slave to the government which was the whole purpose of this debacle in the first place, mission accomplished. In the 1800s how many people were slaves? Well now it will be pretty much anybody who isn’t rich. DAMN RIGHT it is the worst thing since slavery
Love Dr. Carson.
While I don;t agree with his stance on Gun Control, from what I see he is a reasonable man and if he was in office would take a measured approach on things like this.
Well, it isn't so much ‘fluency’ as it is intellect and command of the facts.
Because if you are not clear headed or informed, then you won't achieve ‘fluency'of any kind. And it's a funny thing about fluency... it's one of those tings you just can't FAKE!!
People fail to see that. Mr. Carson is brilliant, because he is able to focus and never ignores logic. It's really like comparing apples to oranges if you would draw a similarity between Carter and "O". "O" is NOT informed and never appears to apply LOGIC in any statements or observations that he makes.
I know Dr. Carson isn’t a conservative on many issues dear to us, but on certain issues, he is spot on. I believe this is one of them.
I read his book, and there were a few flags that made me question some aspects of his conservatism, but I respect him and his work in Medicine.
David Gregory therefore, since he is questioning a black man, is a racist.
"I have an opinion on gun control that differs with many Republicans. However, this opinion is not a motivating passion for me. My motivating passions are liberty, small government, individual responsibility, etc.. I would promise to shelve my opinions on gun control for the duration of my term in office so that I can focus on my passions and return this country to it's once free state."
What is his stance on gun control?
Nay, by next week, Dr.Carson will just be an uncle tom, a porch nagger, a step-n-fetch it, and the Surgeon General will rescind his Medical degrees.
Just another oreo, nothing to see here.
I wish he'd been able to school Gregory by offering a coherent alternative to Obamacare. From what I've seen of his quotes he doesn't have one.
LOL! It's coming to that. One of my black neighbors stopped speaking to me when I put a campaign sign for a black Republican in my yard. He said I was -- you guessed it -- racist!
That's it exactly. He loves this country and the Constitution, and is the opposite of a demagogue; he is a teacher, a problem solver and a healer.
Give them time. The NY Times already has scores of reporters furiously at work doing opposition research on him, you can be sure. The man must be destroyed before primary season, and Gregory has apparently volunteered to be the tip of the spear.
You need to look a little harder past your bias. He has made a number of points on numerous appearances on Fox.
Secondly, and forgive me if we've discussed this before, as I think we have; so if we have, pay attention this time: it is too early in the election cycle to trot out detailed plans by someone who is not even a candidate yet. All it will do is give the left more time to demonize those plans and float extraordinary lies about those plans, just as they did to Palin and Romney.
Who better to help form a team to craft a better plan than a man who was department head of one of the most difficult medical specialties in the foremost hospital chain in the nation? He is being strategic to hold his cards close to the chest until the proper time.
[ While I don;t agree with his stance on Gun Control, from what I see he is a reasonable man and if he was in office would take a measured approach on things like this.
That’s it exactly. He loves this country and the Constitution, and is the opposite of a demagogue; he is a teacher, a problem solver and a healer. ]
He is the kind of guy that even if I didn’t agree with even 50% of what his positions were I could feel good voting for him because from all I have seen of him he appears very thoughtful and would actually listen and consider.
I got the same vibe from Senator Lieberman a bit when he was running for VP even though he was a democrat at the time. Probably WHY he had to become an independent.
We're not going to get perfection. But he is a person of excellent intellect and quality. I have had the honor of meeting him twice, and his family members. I would prefer him over just about anyone else out there, with few exceptions -- and certainly over any Democrat of any description.
They will find nothing. It was already tried by a jealous underling at Hopkins. They found nothing.
Yes. In a close election, we don't need all of them, just significantly more than we have been getting.
The hard-core 'tards of whatever color will vote on ideology, but they are the minority and a lost cause in any case.
He has, on FOX and other places. But I'm looking at coherent solutions. He's all over the board and some of his suggestions are down right stupid.
... it is too early in the election cycle to trot out detailed plans by someone who is not even a candidate yet.
And who never will be one. But he's making quite a splash for himself being critical and sounding sage and not offering much of anything.
In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life, Carson answered . . .
Dr. Carson sure hit a nerve here, didn’t he?
Great to have someone who can quickly, and simply expose them for what they are.
They live with the cloak of intellectualism draped about their shoulders, but when one who actually possesses true intellect confronts them , they don’t know what to do.
I saw or rather heard him speak in person. I don’t think he really debates...... he kills
His style is to rub the enemy on the back, make him comfortable and then complacent. He then takes any one of many verbal stilettos that are so thin and sharp that the victim doesn’t even feel the blade inside him until it is twisted and the blood begins to issue
Dr Carson is absolutely devastating.
You are determined, just determined, to find fault with the man and miss my earlier point, that going out too early with a substantive plan is to court guaranteed destruction in the minds of the low-info voters before it even has a chance to garner support. Timing is vitally important.
So instead we're supposed to vote for the person with no plan and no positions and just hope for the best? I guess low-info voters make up the whole electorate in your view.
I've read what the man has to say already, on health care and an number of other issues, I'm not impressed. Dr. Carson appears to be a fine man and I'm sure he was an excellent doctor, but if he's really looking for something to fill his time in retirement then I suggest he take up golf rather than run for the presidency.
Bump for later
You have never acknowledged the strategic reasons I have put forth two or three times. You are wringing your hands about whether to vote for him, but the election is more than two years away and he isn't even nominated yet. There haven't been debates yet. If he put all his goods out there now, the so-called "leading" GOP candidates could as easily swipe his ideas as the left could denounce them. He is strategically correct in holding back until the debates. But your mind (?) is made up!!!!
That is why I have suggested that you are biased. So I won't be posting to you any further.
——, showing a verbal fluency that rivals the great orator of the left, Barack Obama. ——
LOL....I hope the author wiped his chin....
I so agree! I think he may ultimately prove to be viable candidate, but even if not, I’d love to have him on that stage playing the role of the proverbial gadfly.
Strategy my butt. You're saying that candidate should run on nothing because otherwise it might confuse the electorate. So how are we supposed to choose if the candidate don't say what they stand for?
You are wringing your hands about whether to vote for him, but the election is more than two years away and he isn't even nominated yet.
There's no hand wringing to it. I'm sure Dr. Carson is an excellent surgeon and a find individual, but after 8 years of amateur hour in the Oval Office I'm not interested in another four years with Dr. Carson.
That is why I have suggested that you are biased. So I won't be posting to you any further.
As you wish.
Absolutely not. Reading comprehension...