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Ben Carson educates NBC’s David Gregory on slavery, Obamacare and neo-Marxists (VIDEO)
Biz Pak ^ | May 19 2014 | Tom Tillison

Posted on 05/19/2014 8:40:14 AM PDT by PoloSec

Appearing Sunday on NBC’s “Meet the Press,” Ben Carson stood by an earlier comment he made about Obamacare being the worst thing since slavery.

Speaking at the Values Voter Summit in October, the retired neurosurgeon said the Affordable Care Act is “the worst thing that has happened in this nation since slavery.”

“And it is in a way,” he said then. “It is slavery in a way, because it is making all of us subservient to the government, and it was never about health care. It was about control.”

Host David Gregory ran a clip of the comment, then put Carson on the spot.

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“First, recognize what I said,” Carson replied. “The worst thing since slavery. I didn’t say it was slavery.”

“You said it is slavery in a way,” Gregory chimed in, reading Carson’s quote back to him.

“In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life,” Carson answered, showing a verbal fluency that rivals the great orator of the left, Barack Obama. ”And, when you take the most important thing you have, which is your health care, and you put that in the hands of government bureaucrats, I think you have done the wrong thing.”

Carson made reference to “neo-Marxist literature,” which had the assembled panel’s full attention.

“You go back and look at the neo-Marxist literature and look at what they say, you don’t have to look at what I say, about taking control of the health care of a populace and making the people dependent,” he said. “This is not what America is about.”

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KEYWORDS: 0carenightmare; bencarson; davidgregory; neomarxists; obamacare; obamacareslavery; slavery
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1 posted on 05/19/2014 8:40:14 AM PDT by PoloSec
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To: PoloSec

The liberals will criticize and demonize Dr. Carson. Even though he’s black, and theoretically part of a grievance group which cannot be criticized, the exception to that is that Carson is not liberal.

To the liberal, if you are a minority, homosexual, female, you by definition are supposed to be liberal and find your political home in the Democrat party. It offends their sensibilities to find members of their favorite groups which think for themselves and don’t fall in line with the liberal theology on the subjects being discussed.


2 posted on 05/19/2014 8:44:36 AM PDT by Dilbert San Diego
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To: PoloSec

Just another veiled racial attack on Barack Obama by another self-hating black. (/Gregory)


3 posted on 05/19/2014 8:45:53 AM PDT by 17th Miss Regt
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To: PoloSec

When Gregory or any MSM clone takes issue with him I’d love to see Carson say; “You don’t agree with me? Are you racist?”
Of course this goes for Cain, West, Elder, Sowell, et. al.


4 posted on 05/19/2014 8:46:27 AM PDT by TangoLimaSierra (To win the country back, we need to be as mean as the libs say we are.)
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To: PoloSec
“In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life,” Carson answered . . .

Dr. Carson sure hit a nerve here, didn't he?

5 posted on 05/19/2014 8:46:55 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: PoloSec

I want him to run so I can watch him debate.


6 posted on 05/19/2014 8:48:42 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: PoloSec

How dare Dr. Carson stray off the liberal reservation and challenge their authority. Don’t these people of color know how how good the Democratic Party is to them? What an Uncle Tom! Tell me if you don’t think David Gregory wasn’t thinking that?


7 posted on 05/19/2014 8:48:50 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: Dilbert San Diego
I would put the Great Society welfare initiatives way above Obamacare when it comes to being close to slavery. Under slavery they did hard labor for nothing, which is evil. Under welfare they settle for subsistence living in exchange for doing nothing. Also evil.

In essence they have traded the Plantation for the Reservation.

8 posted on 05/19/2014 8:49:09 AM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: PoloSec

Love Dr. Carson.


9 posted on 05/19/2014 8:53:27 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Just another veiled racial attack on Barack Obama by another self-hating black. (/Gregory)

Yeah, what does he think he is -- a brain surgeon?
LOL!

10 posted on 05/19/2014 8:54:36 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Vigilanteman
“In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life,” Carson answered . . .

With any luck, more than a few lightbulbs went on in black Democrat households upon hearing that sentence.

11 posted on 05/19/2014 8:54:56 AM PDT by COBOL2Java (I'm a Christian, pro-life, pro-gun, Reaganite. The GOP hates me. Why should I vote for them?)
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To: Dilbert San Diego

I still have to believe that there will still be a fairly good number of Blacks who will vote for a Black man for Prez even if he is running on the GOP Ticket. Same for Hispanics.


12 posted on 05/19/2014 8:55:03 AM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016: Governor, Conservative, Hispanic female.)
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To: 17th Miss Regt
Just another veiled racial attack on Barack Obama by another self-hating black. (/Gregory)

The great majority of TV talking heads are willing to be burned at the stake before becoming honest in their comments. Gregory knows what he is doing and it's driving him bonkers. People are not built to distort the truth so much that it makes them ill.
13 posted on 05/19/2014 8:58:22 AM PDT by Resettozero
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To: PoloSec

His soft voice and calm presentation makes it difficult for rats to characterize him as a typical Tea Party supporter who knuckle-drags and is a retard.


14 posted on 05/19/2014 9:01:23 AM PDT by JPG (Yes We Can morphs into Make It Hurt.)
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To: Albion Wilde

I’m hearing he has some opinions on the 2nd amendment that may be of a concern, other than that he is a libs worst nightmare. An educated black man who is where he is because he did it himself and throws the BS flag on obama every chance he gets.


15 posted on 05/19/2014 9:03:46 AM PDT by V_TWIN
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To: PoloSec
Dr. Carson's words reflect a mind which has studied the history of America and of other nations.

Adam Smith, in 1775, along with the wise Founders of America, seemed to be quite clear that individual liberty and limited government power were and are the foundation stones of opportunity, creativity, prosperity, and wealth creation. That principle applies to all people in all places of the globe, in every century.

Every step away from the American Constitution's principles and protections for individual liberty and its limits on coercive power has served to reduce wealth creation and to increase poverty.

Let there be no mistake: Democrats never waged a "war on poverty"!

There was a war on "the People's" Constitutional limits on their elected representatives' use of coercive power to "take" and "redistribute" the people's earnings, under the guise of "helping" some.

Growing a voter base in order to retain power ceded to them by kind-hearted American citizens who could not distinguish between the merits of private charity and the dangers of coercive collective power has brought us to today's debt, deficits and endangered liberty for all citizens.

Perhaps a reading of Congressman Davy Crockett's (TN) experience might be a revealing exercise for those who don't see the dangers of turning over our individual responsibilities to those who promise to "help us."

The current Democrat appeal for "fair share" and against "inequality of income" represent a form of "slavery" by another name. Government "masters" buy votes in exchange for retaining their "master redistributionist" status, while their "voters" yield up freedom for themselves and future generations.

"Of all tyrannies, a tyranny sincerely exercised for the good of its victims may be the most oppressive. It would be better to live under robber barons than under omnipotent moral busybodies. The robber baron's cruelty may sometimes sleep, his cupidity may at some point be satiated; but those who torment us for our own good will torment us without end for they do so with the approval of their own conscience." - C. S. Lewis
Hear Samuel Adams:

"Is it now high time for the people of this country to explicitly declare whether they will be free men or slaves. It is an important question which ought to be decided. It concerns more than anything in this life. The salvation of our souls is interested in this event. For wherever tyranny is established, immorality of every kind comes in like a torrent, it is in the interest of tyrants to reduce the people to ignorance and vice.” - Samuel Adams

And:

“The utopian schemes of leveling and a community of goods, are as visionary and impractical as those which vest all property in the crown. These ideas are arbitrary, despotic, and, in our government unconstitutional.” - Samuel Adams

16 posted on 05/19/2014 9:14:00 AM PDT by loveliberty2
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To: Albion Wilde

If you love Dr Carson, you’re a racist!


17 posted on 05/19/2014 9:15:53 AM PDT by bray (Palin 2016)
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To: PoloSec

Let’s see: The government purposely makes the costs of Obamacommiecare so high that the majority of people can’t afford it. Then in come the fines - oh excuse me - “taxes” that will be levied on these people for not buying Obamacommiecare. And we just know these “taxes” are never going to go higher, yeah and Pelosi is a conservative. So what you end up with is communism brought in through the back door. The government now has a reason to take anything and everything you own if you can’t pay these “taxes”, in essence you are now a slave to the government which was the whole purpose of this debacle in the first place, mission accomplished. In the 1800s how many people were slaves? Well now it will be pretty much anybody who isn’t rich. DAMN RIGHT it is the worst thing since slavery


18 posted on 05/19/2014 9:18:13 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Albion Wilde

Love Dr. Carson.

While I don;t agree with his stance on Gun Control, from what I see he is a reasonable man and if he was in office would take a measured approach on things like this.


19 posted on 05/19/2014 9:19:40 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: PoloSec
“...Carson answered, showing a verbal fluency that rivals the great orator of the left, Barack Obama.”

Well, it isn't so much ‘fluency’ as it is intellect and command of the facts.

Because if you are not clear headed or informed, then you won't achieve ‘fluency'of any kind. And it's a funny thing about fluency... it's one of those tings you just can't FAKE!!

People fail to see that. Mr. Carson is brilliant, because he is able to focus and never ignores logic. It's really like comparing apples to oranges if you would draw a similarity between Carter and "O". "O" is NOT informed and never appears to apply LOGIC in any statements or observations that he makes.

20 posted on 05/19/2014 9:25:27 AM PDT by SMARTY ("When you blame others, you give up your power to change." Robert Anthony)
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To: PoloSec

https://www.facebook.com/DrBen4prez


21 posted on 05/19/2014 9:32:55 AM PDT by big bad easter bunny (If it weren't for coffee I would still be living with my parents!)
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To: PoloSec

I know Dr. Carson isn’t a conservative on many issues dear to us, but on certain issues, he is spot on. I believe this is one of them.

I read his book, and there were a few flags that made me question some aspects of his conservatism, but I respect him and his work in Medicine.


22 posted on 05/19/2014 9:49:26 AM PDT by rlmorel ("A nation, despicable by its weakness, forfeits even the privilege of being neutral." A. Hamilton)
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To: PoloSec

David Gregory therefore, since he is questioning a black man, is a racist.


23 posted on 05/19/2014 9:54:22 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Living in the midst of a silent coup.)
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To: PoloSec

Run, Ben, Run!


24 posted on 05/19/2014 9:59:02 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: GraceG
What I would like to see him say is....

"I have an opinion on gun control that differs with many Republicans. However, this opinion is not a motivating passion for me. My motivating passions are liberty, small government, individual responsibility, etc.. I would promise to shelve my opinions on gun control for the duration of my term in office so that I can focus on my passions and return this country to it's once free state."

25 posted on 05/19/2014 10:01:22 AM PDT by nitzy
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To: GraceG

What is his stance on gun control?


26 posted on 05/19/2014 10:03:47 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: bray
If you love Dr Carson, you’re a racist!

Nay, by next week, Dr.Carson will just be an uncle tom, a porch nagger, a step-n-fetch it, and the Surgeon General will rescind his Medical degrees.

Just another oreo, nothing to see here.

27 posted on 05/19/2014 10:07:05 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: PoloSec
Ben Carson educates NBC’s David Gregory on slavery, Obamacare and neo-Marxists

I wish he'd been able to school Gregory by offering a coherent alternative to Obamacare. From what I've seen of his quotes he doesn't have one.

28 posted on 05/19/2014 10:07:48 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: bray
If you love Dr Carson, you’re a racist!

LOL! It's coming to that. One of my black neighbors stopped speaking to me when I put a campaign sign for a black Republican in my yard. He said I was -- you guessed it -- racist!

29 posted on 05/19/2014 10:47:11 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: GraceG
While I don;t agree with his stance on Gun Control, from what I see he is a reasonable man and if he was in office would take a measured approach on things like this.

That's it exactly. He loves this country and the Constitution, and is the opposite of a demagogue; he is a teacher, a problem solver and a healer.

30 posted on 05/19/2014 10:48:48 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: JPG

Give them time. The NY Times already has scores of reporters furiously at work doing opposition research on him, you can be sure. The man must be destroyed before primary season, and Gregory has apparently volunteered to be the tip of the spear.


31 posted on 05/19/2014 10:53:08 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: DoodleDawg
I wish he'd been able to school Gregory by offering a coherent alternative to Obamacare. From what I've seen of his quotes he doesn't have one.

You need to look a little harder past your bias. He has made a number of points on numerous appearances on Fox.

Secondly, and forgive me if we've discussed this before, as I think we have; so if we have, pay attention this time: it is too early in the election cycle to trot out detailed plans by someone who is not even a candidate yet. All it will do is give the left more time to demonize those plans and float extraordinary lies about those plans, just as they did to Palin and Romney.

Who better to help form a team to craft a better plan than a man who was department head of one of the most difficult medical specialties in the foremost hospital chain in the nation? He is being strategic to hold his cards close to the chest until the proper time.

32 posted on 05/19/2014 10:53:46 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde

[ While I don;t agree with his stance on Gun Control, from what I see he is a reasonable man and if he was in office would take a measured approach on things like this.

That’s it exactly. He loves this country and the Constitution, and is the opposite of a demagogue; he is a teacher, a problem solver and a healer. ]

He is the kind of guy that even if I didn’t agree with even 50% of what his positions were I could feel good voting for him because from all I have seen of him he appears very thoughtful and would actually listen and consider.

I got the same vibe from Senator Lieberman a bit when he was running for VP even though he was a democrat at the time. Probably WHY he had to become an independent.


33 posted on 05/19/2014 10:54:10 AM PDT by GraceG
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To: rlmorel
I read his book, and there were a few flags that made me question some aspects of his conservatism, but I respect him and his work in Medicine.

We're not going to get perfection. But he is a person of excellent intellect and quality. I have had the honor of meeting him twice, and his family members. I would prefer him over just about anyone else out there, with few exceptions -- and certainly over any Democrat of any description.

34 posted on 05/19/2014 10:56:21 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: DPMD
Give them time. The NY Times already has scores of reporters furiously at work doing opposition research on him, you can be sure. The man must be destroyed before primary season, and Gregory has apparently volunteered to be the tip of the spear.

They will find nothing. It was already tried by a jealous underling at Hopkins. They found nothing.

35 posted on 05/19/2014 10:58:06 AM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Din Maker
I still have to believe that there will still be a fairly good number of Blacks who will vote for a Black man for Prez even if he is running on the GOP Ticket. Same for Hispanics.

Yes. In a close election, we don't need all of them, just significantly more than we have been getting.

The hard-core 'tards of whatever color will vote on ideology, but they are the minority and a lost cause in any case.

36 posted on 05/19/2014 10:59:54 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: Albion Wilde
He has made a number of points on numerous appearances on Fox.

He has, on FOX and other places. But I'm looking at coherent solutions. He's all over the board and some of his suggestions are down right stupid.

... it is too early in the election cycle to trot out detailed plans by someone who is not even a candidate yet.

And who never will be one. But he's making quite a splash for himself being critical and sounding sage and not offering much of anything.

37 posted on 05/19/2014 11:06:17 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: Vigilanteman

“In a way anything is slavery that robs you of control of running your own life,” Carson answered . . .

Dr. Carson sure hit a nerve here, didn’t he?


Great to have someone who can quickly, and simply expose them for what they are.

They live with the cloak of intellectualism draped about their shoulders, but when one who actually possesses true intellect confronts them , they don’t know what to do.


38 posted on 05/19/2014 11:09:16 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: defconw

I saw or rather heard him speak in person. I don’t think he really debates...... he kills

His style is to rub the enemy on the back, make him comfortable and then complacent. He then takes any one of many verbal stilettos that are so thin and sharp that the victim doesn’t even feel the blade inside him until it is twisted and the blood begins to issue

Dr Carson is absolutely devastating.


39 posted on 05/19/2014 11:15:39 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: bert
That's exactly what we need instead of this BS spewer we have currently.
40 posted on 05/19/2014 11:18:25 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: PoloSec
Ben Carson educates NBC’s David Gregory...

Low bar

41 posted on 05/19/2014 12:27:11 PM PDT by Renkluaf
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To: DoodleDawg

You are determined, just determined, to find fault with the man and miss my earlier point, that going out too early with a substantive plan is to court guaranteed destruction in the minds of the low-info voters before it even has a chance to garner support. Timing is vitally important.


42 posted on 05/19/2014 12:33:31 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: Albion Wilde
You are determined, just determined, to find fault with the man and miss my earlier point, that going out too early with a substantive plan is to court guaranteed destruction in the minds of the low-info voters before it even has a chance to garner support. Timing is vitally important.

So instead we're supposed to vote for the person with no plan and no positions and just hope for the best? I guess low-info voters make up the whole electorate in your view.

I've read what the man has to say already, on health care and an number of other issues, I'm not impressed. Dr. Carson appears to be a fine man and I'm sure he was an excellent doctor, but if he's really looking for something to fill his time in retirement then I suggest he take up golf rather than run for the presidency.

43 posted on 05/19/2014 12:39:02 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: PoloSec
I was waiting for Gregory to tell Dr. Carson he's a racist. It's all he had left.
44 posted on 05/19/2014 12:39:42 PM PDT by liberalh8ter (The only difference between flash mob 'urban yutes' and U.S. politicians is the hoodies.)
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To: PoloSec

Bump for later


45 posted on 05/19/2014 12:45:01 PM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: DoodleDawg
So instead we're supposed to vote for the person with no plan and no positions and just hope for the best?

You have never acknowledged the strategic reasons I have put forth two or three times. You are wringing your hands about whether to vote for him, but the election is more than two years away and he isn't even nominated yet. There haven't been debates yet. If he put all his goods out there now, the so-called "leading" GOP candidates could as easily swipe his ideas as the left could denounce them. He is strategically correct in holding back until the debates. But your mind (?) is made up!!!!

That is why I have suggested that you are biased. So I won't be posting to you any further.

46 posted on 05/19/2014 1:54:12 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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To: PoloSec

——, showing a verbal fluency that rivals the great orator of the left, Barack Obama. ——

LOL....I hope the author wiped his chin....


47 posted on 05/19/2014 2:00:18 PM PDT by Popman ("Resistance to Tyrants is Obedience to God" - Thomas Jefferson)
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To: defconw

I so agree! I think he may ultimately prove to be viable candidate, but even if not, I’d love to have him on that stage playing the role of the proverbial gadfly.


48 posted on 05/19/2014 2:41:18 PM PDT by ecinkc (Ok, Ben Carson may be the principled outsider needed in the Oval Office. Whatever happens, NOT Jeb!)
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To: Albion Wilde
You have never acknowledged the strategic reasons I have put forth two or three times.

Strategy my butt. You're saying that candidate should run on nothing because otherwise it might confuse the electorate. So how are we supposed to choose if the candidate don't say what they stand for?

You are wringing your hands about whether to vote for him, but the election is more than two years away and he isn't even nominated yet.

There's no hand wringing to it. I'm sure Dr. Carson is an excellent surgeon and a find individual, but after 8 years of amateur hour in the Oval Office I'm not interested in another four years with Dr. Carson.

That is why I have suggested that you are biased. So I won't be posting to you any further.

As you wish.

49 posted on 05/19/2014 5:19:40 PM PDT by DoodleDawg
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To: DoodleDawg
You're saying that candidate should run on nothing because otherwise it might confuse the electorate.

Absolutely not. Reading comprehension...

50 posted on 05/19/2014 8:04:20 PM PDT by Albion Wilde ("The commenters are plenty but the thinkers are few." -- Walid Shoebat)
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