Posted on 05/19/2014 3:58:40 PM PDT by xzins
This now delving into xzins own walk in way of judgment though --- please stop.
You may not "have his number" as well as you may think.
But setting this inspection/detection and weighing speculation in judgment aspect aside, just what was the underlying disagreement about?
Is it -- that "gay marriage", as wrong as that sort of thing is to even think of, is not the real problem since it is as much symptom (of serious sin) rather than a core issue which produces sins of that nature...or something...?
I'm having to guess here at what you may have been driving at. Let me know how well or how bad I just did with it.
Just what were you trying to say, anyway -- that is in any real opposition to what xzins says?
Once it can be seen there is little to none (afaikt) other than perhaps delving into the forensics of "sin" (if that was what you may have been alluding to) I see no real difference.
Franklin Graham goes on public record saying "gay marriage" cannot be endorsed by "followers" of Christ.
Notice that differs from "gay marriage must be opposed by throwing a hissy fit at every opportunity" or something.
What is the problem with Graham saying that such sins as homosexual "marriage" should not be endorsed? What is the problem with agreeing with the man about it? I don't quite get what the problem is...
We could point out that heterosexual "shacking up" as it used to be called, and has now devolved into more openly casual "hooking up" culture is damaging to individuals and culture too, in ways possible as grievous as homosexuality can or is --- for sin will bear it's own fruits --- which are death.
Is the problem that not enough inclusion of other "not endorsing" other forms of immorality has been talked about enough?
I don't know that you have mentioned it, but many minds turn towards that also.
Yet -- those things are not narrowly the issue, when it comes to this last stage -- which is the tearing down of "marriage" between one man and one women from the place such has been generally enshrined in Western culture (along with most cultures) to being now hijacked and turned into simply another sort of thing where the homo's get to claim all this "love" stuff which should be part of marriage, beyond the "civil union" contracts which in a few States well enough equals "marriage" in the eyes of the law (and in regards to "spousal" benefits too) that there is little discernible difference.
Even there I have my own opposition to "civil union" arrangements, in that spousal benefits generally were received by women for reasons of motherhood and the time and care that can entail, while there is not a single homosexual couple on earth who can produce children through the union of their same-sex bodies. It JUST AIN'T NATURAL.
And now...these same sinners are going after the "word" marriage itself -- seemingly to not only be able to accrue financial benefits, but to force everyone to "accept" their sinful ways as being beyond criticism.
Jimmy Cawtah is no longer a Christian, he doesn’t act or speak like a Christ follower, doesn’t defend other Christians he attacks them, he’s a Democrat Socialist, that’s his religion now. Just like Obama.
My complaint centered on posts #53 & #55
Got a quote, Baptist hater?
Got some evidence?
Your sandals are looking mighty dusty...
Here’s the quote from your liberal hero.
“Homosexuality was well known in the ancient world, well before Christ was born and Jesus never said a word about homosexuality. In all of his teachings about multiple things – he never said that gay people should be condemned. I personally think it is very fine for gay people to be married in civil ceremonies”
NOTE: Jimmy Cawtah say it ain’t fine, homo “marriage” is VERY FINE!
Wow!
I wonder how THAT went over in his Sunday School class!
Thanks for the info; I was completely unaware of this.
What’s up with these ‘christian’ Democratic President’s???
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/news/obama-gay-marriage/
Please consider doing that, because over the past several months Franklin Graham has taken the gloves OFF against not only the homosexual aggression that plagues us but also even criticizing Obama.
You can check out the monthly Billy Graham Association Decision Magazine. Excellent stuff.
You can see most of past issues in the Past Issues link and an electronic subscription is $9 per year. (The magazine itself has bible study, additional articles on their worldwide Crusades etc.) Hope you'll check it out the entire website is very good.
It seems you have drifted away from the command of humility.
I think you and I are both old and will soon meet the Lord. Please, my friend, do not meet Him with a superior attitude.
Believe me...you ain't superior. However much you might believe you are superior to me (and that ain't saying much).
Get ready...be humble.
I wondered what happened to you. Are you OK?
I am fine but have been attending to plumbing issues at the homestead. And it is my mother's 94th birthday (I am a caregiver).
Very comforting for you to ask, thank you.;-)
My mom’s 10 years younger than yours. She and Dad are both still living in their own home. Mom putters about her veggie garden and dad is her (very slow) slave laborer. The woman has an amazing green thumb.
I’m glad you’re ok. You were there and then just quickly disappeared.
I know you’re not ok with my theology, but we’ll both survive it.
This is a very stressful time for me and I might have made some big mistakes in my postings (Overly passionate).
Sorry for any confusion. I support your work with all my heart. I am just a jerk from time to time.
Please stay in touch. Your help is more valuable than you can imagine.
I confess to the same thing. I am very intense about opposing same sex marriage and the way things are said. You made it clear that you don’t support it. I should have left it at that.
Your friend, RR.
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