Posted on 05/20/2014 6:40:33 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
The idea that we need to allow in more workers with science, technology, engineering, and math (“STEM”) background is an article of faith among American business and political elite.
But in a new report, my Center for Immigration Studies colleague Karen Zeigler and I analyze the latest government data and find what other researchers have found: The country has well more than twice as many workers with STEM degrees as there are STEM jobs. Also consistent with other research, we find only modest levels of wage growth for such workers for more than a decade. Both employment and wage data indicate that such workers are not in short supply.
Reports by the Economic Policy Institute (EPI), the RAND Corporation, the Urban Institute, and the National Research Council have all found no evidence that STEM workers are in short supply. After looking at evidence from the EPI study, PBS entitled its story on the report “The Bogus High-Tech Worker Shortage: How Guest Workers Lower U.S. Wages.” This is PBS, mind you, which is as likely to report skeptically on immigration as it is to report skeptically on taxpayer subsidies for the Corporation for Public Broadcasting.
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And Obama is throwing $$$ at STEM programs. Our high school just got a couple hundred thousand dollar interest free loans to implement STEM.
This article is BS .
Top flight technical people are always in short supply
What percentage of these degree holders actually have skills employers are looking for?
Anecdotal evidence, mind you, but I’m currently working about two dozen open requisitions for Mechanical and Electrical Engineers. Supply vs. demand ratio in our area is about 3:1...with three open positions for every one available engineer. It’s a candidate’s market, from where I sit. Probably 90% of the responses I get to advertisements for these positions are from foreign nationals looking for sponsorship.
There IS a candidate shortage, at least in my area of the country (Central KY).
I think American’s, real Americans, should develop shadow economies and shadow societies. Pay taxes and obey all the regulations, or rebel against them, that’s not the point, but only buy from other conservatives and only give charity to overtly conservative causes. Very rich conservatives should give grants to conservative scholars for “advanced conservative studies”. Real conservative studies, not just listening to an egomaniac talk about himself on the radio. Only hire conservatives and only work for conservatives. But how will we educate people? We can’t do any worse at educating people than we have.
I think we’re too entangled with the world.
Imagine if the tech companies set up specific training classes/courses catered to their needs in high schools and/or unemployment training centers around the country for Americans instead of spending money sponsoring foreigners.
First, having a tech degree and knowing what you’re doing may well be two different things. Freelancer.com is a legit site that offers consulting jobs to programmers, etc. However, I am amazed how many “projects” are students who want someone else to do their homework for them, or take online tests for them.
Second, Obozo has no clue what it would take to turn this sluggish economy around, nor do his Socialist cronies. The fastest-growing economy in the world got there by lowering taxes on corporations to the lowest rates on the planet, reducing personal income taxes to 15%, and reducing the gov’ts share of GNP from almost 37% to less that 25% in less than a decade. The country: Chile.
Hey, Stupid! Wake up!
Tell us why you feel this way.
Hmm, I wonder what an “H1B Visa” is?
Sure, top flight.
Top flight candidates are not what tech companies are using H-1 visas for, but for the jobs that competent American workers could do.
I dunno, I always looked at it this way. Someone with a STEM background can do anything with it. They can be, for example, work in their technical area of expertise. But, and this is the big but, they can also expand and work in business, technical sales, law, etc. You just can’t go wrong with a STEM background.
That’s what I’m talking about in my last post. Conservatives, and Christians, should run their business according to their ideology, educate their kids based on ideology, spend money, etc. Come out from among them.
I think this is the key to the study. My experience is management wants the tech worker wage growth to be flat or negative.
Who peed in your Cheerios this morning?
He is absolutely right: Competent, experienced engineers and architects are always in short supply.
There are always localized surpluses: the boom/bust cycle of some industries cause a see-saw. And, there are geographical issues: different regions have different demands, and if you aren't willing to relocate, you can struggle to find another job.
But, I think the real cause of the mismatch described in this article is skill-based. An engineering, science, or IT degree can be worthless if you don't continually learn new skills. When I started, COBOL and FORTRAN were primary requirements. Then, it became C and C++. Java and .NET took the throne a while back, but in some places that is yesterday's technology.
Another issue is out-sourcing. Like manufacturing, technology jobs are migrating outside the US. The 'Net has made it much easier for someone to do technology work at home. But, if you can telecommute from home, then your job can be done by someone on the other side of the world.
It really comes down to performance: "average" isn't good enough in the US any longer. If you are exceptionally good at what you do, you won't have a problem getting and keeping a job. If you are just "doing what you have to do", it's a matter of time before you suffer the consequences.
Your response is BS and laughable, although based on the logic, you sound like a socialist, so I shouldn't be surprised.
Actually, top flight people in general are always in short supply. Top flight technical people are in even shorter supply because the subject matter is more difficult and the training required to obtain and maintain proficiency is rigorous
This article is 100%
I’m in and had been in the Chemical and Pharmaceutical industry
Whenever I have an entry level position open, I am flooded with Resumes from overqualified people with many years experience. I see many highly qualified people with long gaps in employment history, struggling to find any work.
Granted a big part of that is I am in New Jersey, but H1Bs (and Internships) have decimated salaries and jobs in this industry. Go to any pharmaceutical company, a quarter or half the science staff has the last name Patel.
All these institutes are lying?
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