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'Putin is behaving just like Hitler', says Charles
dailymail.co.uk ^ | March 20, 2014 | Rebecca English

Posted on 05/21/2014 12:41:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper

Prince Charles has sensationally likened Vladimir Putin to Adolf Hitler.

In a withering verdict on the actions of the Russian president in Ukraine, he told a woman who lost relatives in the Nazi Holocaust: ‘And now Putin is doing just about the same as Hitler.’

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TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: godwinslaw; hitler; princecharles; putin; ukraine

EXCLUSIVE: 'Putin is behaving just like Hitler', says Charles. Prince's controversial verdict on Russian leader's invasion of Ukraine


1 posted on 05/21/2014 12:41:57 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

2 posted on 05/21/2014 12:46:27 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
related ?
3 posted on 05/21/2014 12:51:46 AM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama is a greater immediate threat to me than Putin.


4 posted on 05/21/2014 12:56:16 AM PDT by SWAMPSNIPER (The Second Amendment, a Matter of Fact, Not a Matter of Opinion)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Now I’m all confused - I obviously can’t side with His Royal Nitwitness but I can’t side with Putin either. How dare Charlie make some sense it might just make a rip in the space/time continuum!


5 posted on 05/21/2014 12:58:04 AM PDT by melsec (Once a Jolly Swagman camped by a Billabong.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Two questions:

1. Why is it that people are not compared to Stalin?
2. Who was Hitler compared to when he was still alive? ("That Hitler guy, he's just like...") Who was the face of evil before Hitler?

6 posted on 05/21/2014 1:01:15 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Prince Charles invokes Godwin’s Law and ends all further debate and also loses.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 1:06:20 AM PDT by xp38
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To: Cowboy Bob

1. Why is it that people are not compared to Stalin?


Because Obama is the one acting like Stalin.

Putin wishes to expand his power to other countries outside his borders and Obama wishes to consolidate his revolution within the United States borders.


8 posted on 05/21/2014 1:10:35 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: xp38

Debate is not something we do when faced with naked aggression from Moscow and its communist allies. We act instead.


9 posted on 05/21/2014 1:22:55 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

>> Obama is a greater immediate threat to me than Putin.

Obama or his Mainstream Ministry of Information?


10 posted on 05/21/2014 1:38:14 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

To protect liberty, try multi tasking.


11 posted on 05/21/2014 1:56:23 AM PDT by elhombrelibre (Against Obama. Against Putin. Pro-freedom. Pro-US Constitution.)
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To: kingattax

Seems like “leaders” with big ears have nothing berween them.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 2:04:26 AM PDT by bravo whiskey (We should not fear our government. Our government should fear us.)
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To: xp38

“Prince Charles invokes Godwin’s Law and ends all further debate and also loses.”

Except when it isn’t a debate and somebody acts precisely like Hitler...lol. See Sudetenland


13 posted on 05/21/2014 2:23:29 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: rdcbn

That is a very interesting fact that I haven’t considered!


14 posted on 05/21/2014 2:25:04 AM PDT by Cowboy Bob (They are called "Liberals" because the word "parasite" was already taken.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Can’t you just see Chuck returning from Moscow declaring “peace in our time”?


15 posted on 05/21/2014 2:45:19 AM PDT by caver (Obama: Home of the Whopper)
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To: SWAMPSNIPER

Obama has certainly done far more damage to America and Americans than Putin.


16 posted on 05/21/2014 3:02:30 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: kingattax
Charles is behaving like upper class twit of the year


17 posted on 05/21/2014 3:05:38 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: Cowboy Bob

What did tornadoes sound like before freight trains?


18 posted on 05/21/2014 3:15:37 AM PDT by arasina (Communism is EVIL. So there.)
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To: kingattax

Good grief...Can you imagine a more demented looking person then Charles? Obumbo, on the other hand, just looks like pure evil.


19 posted on 05/21/2014 3:20:58 AM PDT by AlexW
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To: arasina

LOL!


20 posted on 05/21/2014 3:22:30 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Obama has caused great damage to America and Americans.

Putin has not.

And Obama has caused more death, destruction and societal collapse around the world than Putin ever dreamed of.


21 posted on 05/21/2014 3:35:22 AM PDT by Iron Munro (The “fourth estate”has morphed into a 5th column)
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Why is it that people are not compared to Stalin?”

Very good point. It’s sadly amusing that these same people who are complaining about Russia’s aggression and Putin’s intentions today, are in many cases the same ones who downplayed Reagan’s victory over the USSR in the Cold War by stating that ‘the Soviets never were that big of a threat’.


22 posted on 05/21/2014 3:35:28 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Iron Munro
“Obama has caused great damage to America and Americans.”

But he's made us so loved around the world......

23 posted on 05/21/2014 3:37:06 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Cowboy Bob

“Who was the face of evil before Hitler?”

Easy answer - Kaiser Wilhelm. It was no accident that Adolf Hitler cultivated a facial appearance that was a caricature of “Kaiser Bill”. And the Kaiser, who at first supported the concept of National Socialism, was soon disillusioned, as the old aristocracy was swept away and replaced by coarse, vulgar men better fitted to be peasants. A nation that had once been the home of poets and musicians, artists and soldiers, had become nothing more than legions marching to hollow victories, a nation of hysterics and hermits, engulfed by a mob and led by a thousand liars and fanatics.


24 posted on 05/21/2014 3:52:29 AM PDT by alloysteel (Selective and willful ignorance spells doom, to both victim and perpetrator - mostly the perp.)
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To: Cowboy Bob
1. Because Stalin wasnt killed for his crimes.

2. Umm...good question. Ummm..He looked a lot like Charlie Chaplin... OMG CHARLIE CHAPLIN was the face of EVIL!!! And I always thought "The Kid" was just a comedy...

25 posted on 05/21/2014 4:08:05 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Iron Munro
Prince Charles and Barak Obama. Now that is some really manly men huh? /s.

Comparing Crimea to Poland, France, Czechoslovakia, etc. etc. is little bit a stretch huh Chucky?

26 posted on 05/21/2014 4:15:54 AM PDT by catfish1957 (Face it!!!! The government in DC is full of treasonous bastards)
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To: kingattax
"Prince Charles...t: ‘And now Putin is doing just about the same as Hitler.’"

He should have added: "And the West is doing just about the same as Neville Chamberlain."

27 posted on 05/21/2014 4:20:17 AM PDT by Savage Beast (Hubris and denial overwhelm Western Civilization. Nemesis and tragedy always follow.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Simply moronic. If there is anyone in Europe qualifying for Hitler status it is the satists in Belgium like Manuel Barosso.


28 posted on 05/21/2014 4:29:45 AM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Not Hitler...Stalin!

Or maybe Mao

29 posted on 05/21/2014 4:37:36 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

“Why is it that people are not compared to Stalin?”

Well now, Stalin & his USSR were our “heroic Soviet allies” during WWII and commie-dominated Hollywood played that up to the hilt. The Nazi era’s atrocities were extremely well documented by the Nazis themselves, while nothing was known about the horrors of the Soviet Gulag until Solzhenitsyn & Sakharov.

Stalin is still “good old Uncle Joe” to many. Pete Seeger, anyone?


30 posted on 05/21/2014 5:07:33 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: rdcbn

Because our Commie-influenced educational system doesn’t want to teach people the truth about the former Soviet Union.


31 posted on 05/21/2014 5:09:22 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Vanders9
Book Review - Stalin's Last Crime: The Plot Against the Jewish Doctors, 1948-1953, by Jonathan Brent, Vladimir Naumov
The “doctor’s plot” led to the arrests and execution of thousands of Jewish doctors, artists, poets, and more.

Death of Stalin - How Stalin Died
Stalin had suffered a series of minor strokes before 1953 and was generally in declining health. On the night of February 28th he watched a film at the Kremlin, then returned to his dacha, where he met with several prominent subordinates including Beria, head of the NKVD (secret police) and Khrushchev, who would eventually succeed Stalin. They left at 4:00 am, with no suggestion that Stalin was in poor health. Stalin then went to bed, but only after saying the guards could go off duty and that they weren’t to wake him.

Stalin would usually alert his guards before 10:00 am and ask for tea, but no communication came. The guards grew worried, but were forbidden from waking Stalin and could only wait: there was no one in the Dacha who could counter Stalin’s orders. A light came on in the room around 18:30, but still no call. Eventually, plucking up the courage to go in and using the arrived post as an excuse, a guard entered the room at 22:00 and found Stalin lying on the floor in a pool of urine. He was helpless and unable to speak, and his broken watch showed he had fallen at 18:30.

The guards felt they didn’t have the right authority to call for a doctor – indeed many of Stalin’s doctors were the target of a new purge – so instead they called the Minister of State Security. He also felt he didn’t have the right powers and called Beria. Exactly what happened next is still not fully understood, but Beria and other leading Russians delayed acting, possibly because they wanted Stalin to die and not include them in the forthcoming purge, possibly because they were scared of seeming to infringe on Stalin’s powers should he recover. They only called for doctors sometime between 7:00 and 10:00 the next day after first travelling to the Dacha themselves.

The doctors found Stalin partially paralysed, breathing with difficulty and vomiting blood. They feared the worst but were unsure. The best doctors in Russia, those which had been treating Stalin, had recently been arrested as part of the forthcoming purge and were in prison. Representatives of the doctors who were free and had seen Stalin went to the prisons to ask for the old doctors’ opinions, who confirmed the initial, negative, diagnoses. Stalin struggled on for several days, eventually dying at 21:50 on March 5th. His daughter said about the event: “The death agony was terrible. He literally choked to death as we watched.”

32 posted on 05/21/2014 5:34:48 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

In before Prince Charles turns into a tampon.


33 posted on 05/21/2014 5:39:03 AM PDT by Caipirabob (Communists... Socialists... Democrats...Traitors... Who can tell the difference?)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Has Queen Elizabeth EVER, in over 50 years, said things without thought, things that put the monarchy on one side of an issue? I wonder if the odd but often sane wisdom of the Brits will skip Charles as king.


34 posted on 05/21/2014 5:46:56 AM PDT by grania
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To: grania
Under the royal rules, Charles cannot be "skipped". He will be crowned "King" upon the death. retirement or abdication of his mother, the Queen.

Charles could then immediately abdicate or retire and turn the crown over to William....but I don't see that happening under normal circumstances.

Leni

35 posted on 05/21/2014 6:00:33 AM PDT by MinuteGal
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To: Cowboy Bob

I’m about half way through William Manchester’s 3 volume biography of Churchill and I highly recommend it to anyone interested in history. The parallel’s with Hitler’s use of ethnic protection excuses, plebiscites, piecemeal destruction of polyglot states, and military force to redress recent geopolitical setbacks is jarring.
Putin seems to lack Hitler’s mad and murderous obsession with hated minorities and outlanders, but may have studied his methods.
Today, are we in the west any more ready to commit ourselves to a horrible war to fulfill past commitments to small and vulnerable allies in eastern Europe than the democracies were in the late 1930’s?


36 posted on 05/21/2014 6:13:08 AM PDT by conejo99
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To: conejo99

Now you did it. You went and broke up the RonPaulian and isolationist replace-fest...love fest for Putin.


37 posted on 05/21/2014 7:53:51 AM PDT by rbmillerjr (Russians to the Left of me, Useful Idiots to the Right...)
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To: elcid1970
“Stalin is still “good old Uncle Joe” to many. Pete Seeger, anyone?”

Yeah, “good old Uncle Joe” who stayed up late signing death edicts. That a good many on the left thought this guy was a hero tells you everything you need to know about liberal blindness and hypocrisy.

38 posted on 05/21/2014 9:22:27 AM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: Cowboy Bob
1. Why is it that people are not compared to Stalin?

Because US media covers for Uncle Joe.

2. Who was Hitler compared to when he was still alive? ("That Hitler guy, he's just like...") Who was the face of evil before Hitler?

Genghis Khan.

39 posted on 05/21/2014 9:56:14 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: arasina
What did tornadoes sound like before freight trains?

A stampede of elephants.

40 posted on 05/21/2014 9:58:02 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: pieceofthepuzzle

When I was deployed to Uzbekistan I met a young woman who looked me in the eye and told me in perfect English, “I want you to know one thing: I admire Josef Stalin!”

When I countered with, “Because he killed seventy million people!?” she calmly replied “You need a strong hand to rule so large a country as the Soviet Union!”

This was in 2003. Uzbeks used to be Soviet citizens.


41 posted on 05/21/2014 10:28:41 AM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: elcid1970
“When I countered with, “Because he killed seventy million people!?” she calmly replied “You need a strong hand to rule so large a country as the Soviet Union!””

Not surprising, as people such as she are necessary to allow people such as Stalin to gain and maintain power. To be honest, it's not entirely different than when Eleanor Cliff defended Bill Clinton's sexual escapades by saying that ‘strong leaders often have pronounced sexual appetites’. It's all the same - making excuses for those who hurt others, because in some manner it serves your self-interest.

Altruism exists, but it's certainly not in surplus.

42 posted on 05/21/2014 5:41:50 PM PDT by pieceofthepuzzle
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To: grania
Has Queen Elizabeth EVER, in over 50 years, said things without thought, things that put the monarchy on one side of an issue?

No, but nor has the Prince of Wales. If he's saying this type of thing right now, it's because he's been asked to by Her Majesty's Government to say something in a way that allows themselves to officially distance themselves from it. The Prince does have a little more freedom to speak than the Queen, but not this much.

I wonder if the odd but often sane wisdom of the Brits will skip Charles as king.

I am lucky enough to be a friend to the Prince of Wales, and to know him fairly well. Though he's on the left on some environmental issues, overall he's actually a genuine conservative who would fit in quite well here, if he had that sort of freedom. The caricature you get of him in the press is simply yet another example of the mass media trying to make a conservative seem foolish and strange - just as they do to conservatives in America. For some reason, I find difficult to understand at times, Americans who understand this is being done to conservatives in America, buy it when it comes to the Prince.

When it falls to him (and long may that day be delayed) he will be a good King. There's no question of skipping him. I think William has great potential as well, but besides anything else, nobody wants to do that to William - he deserves as long a chance as possible to have a more normal life before he has to take on that burden.

43 posted on 05/21/2014 9:12:50 PM PDT by naturalman1975 ("America was under attack. Australia was immediately there to help." - John Winston Howard)
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To: naturalman1975
Thank you for that excellent response, answering my concerns.

I knew from conversations on cruises on a very-British liner that Charles is highly regarded for his charities. I wish more US citizens knew that we'd have nothing to fear from a King Charles of England.

44 posted on 05/22/2014 5:04:47 AM PDT by grania
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To: Cowboy Bob
Who was the face of evil before Hitler?

This guy.


45 posted on 05/22/2014 7:53:22 AM PDT by Zionist Conspirator (The Left: speaking power to truth since Shevirat HaKelim.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Hitler and Putin - May 21, 2014

Both bear furious historical grievances. Hitler wanted to avenge the Versailles Treaty, which punished Germany for its defeat in World War I. Putin believes the West exploited Russia’s weakness after the fall of the Soviet Union in 1991.

In truth, the collapse of communism was a liberation for the Russians, who suffered grievously under Soviet rule. But Putin calls it the ‘geopolitical catastrophe’ of the last century.

Both leaders stoke and exploit paranoia. Hitler blamed Jewish bankers for Germany’s woes. Anti-Westernism is the fuel that fires support for the Putin regime. 

Just as the League of Nations — the forerunner to the United Nations — failed to contain Hitler and his Italian fascist ally Benito Mussolini, Putin plays divide and rule with Nato and the EU by striking backroom deals with greedy and short-sighted national leaders.

Just as Hitler’s Germany was an expansionist power, so is Putin’s Russia. In 1938, as Hitler began to mobilise his forces for a devastating war, he forced Czechoslovakia to give up the German-speaking region of Sudetenland, inhabited by hundreds of thousands of German-speakers, leaving the remnants of Czechoslovakia ripe for takeover. The Nazis invaded a year later.

In a similar vein, Putin has already seized Crimea, and now sponsors separatists in eastern and southern Ukraine to stoke the flames of revolution against the government in Kiev. 

Aggressive Russian interference risks making Ukraine — which is trying to hold a presidential election on Sunday — a failed state. Both Hitler and Putin base their thinking on race, and used race-based grievances to whip up a nationalist frenzy at home. 

Hitler wanted to unite the ‘Volksgenossen’ (‘racial comrades’) of German-speaking Europe into the Third Reich. For his part, Putin wants to unite sootechestvenniki (‘compatriots’) into a new ‘Russian world’.

To both men, other countries’ rights or interests are irrelevant. Putin thinks Ukraine is a ‘territory, not a state’. Hitler believed that Czechoslovakia and Poland had no right to exist — which is why he ordered his tanks to smash their way across them.

To be sure, a neutered Germany — and Germans stranded abroad by the Versailles Treaty — had grievances aplenty, just as do Russians who woke up in 1991 after the collapse of the Soviet Union to find they were effectively living abroad in newly independent nation states. But that is what happens when empires collapse.

Resolving ethnic grievances by changing borders and breaking up countries led to disaster in the Thirties. It risks World War III now.


46 posted on 05/22/2014 4:37:59 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Zionist Conspirator

Warren Wilhelm Jr?


47 posted on 05/22/2014 5:12:25 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Zionist Conspirator

I would have said the face of evil before Hitler was Lenin, but that’s just my humble opinion.

When Kaiser Bill abdicated, his evil died along with the German Empire. He himself died in exile, spurned even by the Nazis.

Lenin’s power of evil persists to this day after a century of fomenting the deaths of hundreds of millions.


48 posted on 05/23/2014 8:15:46 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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