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POtuS will not fire VA Head Shinseki
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Posted on 05/21/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by WMarshal

Obama has circled the wagons around his incompetent, crooked crony Shinseki as is his usual practice.


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I heard the president's address over the radio this morning and it was packed full of the usual pablum like "wait for the results of the investigation" etc. The only real news was that Shinseki will stay on to get "to the bottom of the problem." The president also said that he was "very angry" so I guess that everything is going to be ok. Thanks POtuS!
1 posted on 05/21/2014 8:33:17 AM PDT by WMarshal
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To: WMarshal

How could the Tyrant fire a stooge who KNOWS
he knew for years, and planned ObamaCARE/DeathCARE
to “work” ... the same way.


2 posted on 05/21/2014 8:35:34 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: WMarshal

There’s nothing the Undocumented Kenyan could do that would raise my opinion of him one millimeter, except to admit he’s been a fake for 30+ years, admit the 2012 and pretty much the 2008 elections were shams and resign immediately, taking his whole corrupt administration with him.


3 posted on 05/21/2014 8:36:55 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: WMarshal

He won’t fire him because it was all done at Zero’s request. They can display all the false outrage they want but none of these bozos get fired, not Lerner, not Sebellius and not Shineski. They’ll stall for a couple of years and they send out some punk who will say Dude that was like 2 years ago. Meanwhile the executive orders keep coming like a flood.


4 posted on 05/21/2014 8:37:46 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: WMarshal

This must be the only general that 0 likes?


5 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:05 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: WMarshal

Nobody ever gets fired under this POtuS. You can murder babies, vets, and you will be just FINE and probably get a bonus, promotion or anything else that will enrich your life in a meaningful way.


6 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:29 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: WMarshal

Watched it on FNC. This isn’t going to make the problem go away for FUBO. Both he and Shinseki had to know this was going on. Either that or they are both stupid ( which is also likely). Either way, this will help FUBO out the door with the voters.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:45 AM PDT by vette6387 (n)
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To: WMarshal

Maybe Shinseki gave Obama a Black Beret when Shinseki became part of the Incompetent Love Regime and Obama was so touched that he will never let Shinseki go.


8 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:50 AM PDT by BilLies (sharyl attkisson is alive and well HOORAY!!!!!)
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To: WMarshal

Well Obama thinks he’s just fixed everything by making a statement ,like every other scandal


9 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:50 AM PDT by molson209 (Blank)
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To: WMarshal
'Heckovajob' Shinskie ...
10 posted on 05/21/2014 8:38:59 AM PDT by Servant of the Cross (the Truth will set you free)
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To: WMarshal

Yeah, Barky was using his “angry voice” to express his fake outrage. As soon as he took questions from the presstitutes he went back to “cool Baraq” again.....


11 posted on 05/21/2014 8:41:48 AM PDT by clintonh8r (#Don't give up! The liberals are buggering and aborting themselves into extinction.)
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To: WMarshal

The president also said that he was “very angry”


Immediately followed by his off stage exit question to aides....

What is my Tee Time ????????


12 posted on 05/21/2014 8:42:44 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: clintonh8r

As soon as he took questions from the presstitutes he went back to “cool Baraq” again.....


In other words.... I expect you to not make anything of this.......


13 posted on 05/21/2014 8:43:44 AM PDT by patriotspride
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To: WMarshal

No one cares more than B-HO (right up until next week when he will proclaim it a phoney scandal).


14 posted on 05/21/2014 8:43:54 AM PDT by LittleBillyInfidel (This tagline has been formatted to fit the screen. Some content has been edited.)
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To: WMarshal

I could not what that POS

BUT I think maybe NOT firing Shenseki was the right thing.
If the POS had fired him all the news would have been on the new hire

and Perhaps maybe shenseki can force BO and Congress to allow him, ( shenseki) to actually GIRE people.

That aeems the real problem NO ONE can get fired right now.
Yes this is something shenseki should have tried to do for YEARS
but if we have to hire a new one that delays getting this fixed.

ANYONE who knows about federal employees knows they can’t be fired


15 posted on 05/21/2014 8:44:28 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: WMarshal
It's very simple.

The President fire employees

The President fire appointees

The President cannot afford to fire co-conspirators who can turn states evidence that wrong doing leads directly to him

16 posted on 05/21/2014 8:52:22 AM PDT by rdcbn
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To: WMarshal

He actually said “Period” in the press conference. That’s got legs.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 8:52:28 AM PDT by Fpiercedxb
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To: RWGinger

Oh he could be fired by potus. Not a person would defend him

I wonder if its partly because no one would want that job right now

Same w Sebelius and everyone. BO has to worry he can’t hire anyone

Also though he just can’t care about our vets any more than musring up a statement 3 wks after the scandal broke

He likely won’t talk about it again. It’s not like he cares about what anyone thinks of him. Certainly not vet loyalists


18 posted on 05/21/2014 8:58:32 AM PDT by stanne
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To: rdcbn
The country needs a special prosecutor, now. What are republicans waiting for? They should be screaming for one, congress can appoint one on its own and I don't think the rats could vote against one either.
How many more vets need to die?
19 posted on 05/21/2014 8:58:36 AM PDT by reefdiver (Be the Best you can be Whatever you Dream to be)
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To: Fpiercedxb

Well we all know his “periods” are always followed by a “but”.


20 posted on 05/21/2014 8:58:45 AM PDT by Toespi
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To: WMarshal
"wait for the results of the investigation" etc.

Whenever zippy uses investigation, that's code for: He isn't going to do anything about it. Best example off hand is Benghazi. He promised an "investigation" of that act of war.

21 posted on 05/21/2014 9:06:19 AM PDT by BerryDingle (I know how to deal with communists, I still wear their scars on my back from Hollywood-Ronald Reagan)
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To: MomwithHope
When will folk's get it that Obama doesn't make decisions? He only spews out what others tell him to.
22 posted on 05/21/2014 9:16:43 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: mountainlion

I think that they went to the same high school. At different times.


23 posted on 05/21/2014 9:18:45 AM PDT by Coldwater Creek
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To: Coldwater Creek

I think that they went to the same high school. At different times.

Unicorn High in the state of Utopia?


24 posted on 05/21/2014 9:21:14 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well for those that did not make it back.)
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To: Coldwater Creek

And it’s looking more and more like he Muslim Brotherhood.


25 posted on 05/21/2014 9:30:33 AM PDT by MomwithHope (Please support efforts in your state for an Article 5 convention.)
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To: WMarshal
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26 posted on 05/21/2014 9:35:19 AM PDT by februus
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To: stanne
I've been saying that Obama would not fire Shinseki.

The reason is that Obama doesn't want the spectacle of a confirmation hearing for his replacement that will expose all the dirty deeds of the VA during the upcoming mid-term elections.

Democrats would get clobbered if a VA nominee hearing were going on during the mid-terms.

-PJ

28 posted on 05/21/2014 9:39:25 AM PDT by Political Junkie Too (If you are the Posterity of We the People, then you are a Natural Born Citizen.)
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To: RWGinger

We do not know how long this has been going on

It a regulation problem. They have been told to place certain people on permanent hold waiting for appts

Bush was not a great potus and the va has always had flaws but lets not ascribe this obamadontcare attitude onto them

Have proof that this was going on before ? Or is it a ‘feeling’ or opinion that you think brings it to the level of fact


29 posted on 05/21/2014 9:41:11 AM PDT by stanne
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To: WMarshal
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Were you referring to this POS?

30 posted on 05/21/2014 9:42:05 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: stanne

I am as big a supporter of W as anyone. I voted for him4 times
But yes problems have been going on at the VA before the POS 0dumbo.
We know Bush’s team alerted 0dumbo’s team during the transition
So did they flat out say wait times were being manipulated? since they haven’t said what was in the report we don’t know.

MUCH of the current problem is actually due to Clinton opening up VA care to anyone who served, even as few as 2 years but he did not increase the number of medical care team.
This is ramping up now as so many more come back and get out, tie this to the high unemployment rate and it is easy to see the issue
NONE of that excuses what is going on
but please do not put words in my post. Bush cares more for the vets than either Carter Clinton or this POS ever will


31 posted on 05/21/2014 9:50:16 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger

We don’t know. That’s all we don’t know

Geeze. Is it too much to expect people to not be leftist like and say they or we know something when we do not know it?

We do not know

That’s so simple


32 posted on 05/21/2014 10:02:14 AM PDT by stanne
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To: stanne

Are you saying there haven’t been major problems at the VA even before this POS?
As big a supporter of Bush as I am does not mean I can’t acknowledge he is not perfect. There were many problems uncovered during Bush years.Remember the horror at Walter reed? Remember the patients dying at the Dallas Va? etc
The scheduling problem is just one of many.
Unlike that POS 0dumbo though Bush did not have to hear it on the news. He tried to fix what he could.


33 posted on 05/21/2014 10:13:12 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: RWGinger
There was no "horror" at Walter Reed. No one died as a result. Even Bob Dole, who co-chaired the investigation in to Walter Reed after the Washington Post hit piece, said the scandal was overblown but that there were problems that needed to be addressed.

I attended a press conference by wounded warriors recuperating at Walter Reed who told the press it was not nearly as bad as portrayed in the media.

34 posted on 05/21/2014 10:23:19 AM PDT by kristinn (Welcome to the Soviet States of Obama)
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To: stanne

So you asked if I have “ proof” this has been going on?

or did I just “ think “ it

here from wash times
‘The Obama administration received clear notice more than five years ago that VA medical facilities were reporting inaccurate waiting times and experiencing scheduling failures that threatened to deny veterans timely health care — problems that have turned into a growing scandal.

Veterans Affairs officials warned the Obama-Biden transition team in the weeks after the 2008 presidential election that the department shouldn’t trust the wait times that its facilities were reporting.

Read more: http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/18/obama-warned-about-va-wait-time-problems-during-20/#ixzz32N9DXyTI
Follow us: @washtimes on Twitter

I am NOT blaming Bush so get off that but you also need to know the facts
got it?


35 posted on 05/21/2014 10:30:21 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: kristinn

I never said anyone died at Walter reed
but the fact is that facility was not equipped for the number of injured it was getting as it was already scheduled to close
I was there and the conditions were not that great

I AM NOT BLAMING BUSH. GET IT?
I am saying there have been issues for several years at the VA
This is NO way lets the POS 0dumbo off the hook
I AM NOT BLAMING BUSH


36 posted on 05/21/2014 10:34:43 AM PDT by RWGinger
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To: WMarshal

“Hey! Hey! O-Bam-Ay!
How many Vets did you kill today?”


37 posted on 05/21/2014 10:37:56 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: WMarshal

Obama is mentally ill. The easiest thing in the world to deal with this would be for him to fire Shinseki. But, he just can’t do it. That would be admitting that there’s been a mistake, and he can’t do that. That’s mental illness. Reid and Pelosi and Schumer are getting ready to take that long, sad midnight walk to the back door of the White House where they tell Obama he’s sick and needs to resign.


38 posted on 05/21/2014 10:42:04 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: RWGinger

Actually, the president has great latitude to fire federal employees. Remember when President Reagan fired every single federal aircraft controller when he warned them not to strike? Strike they did and fired they were! Sure they can try in court to overturn the firing but in the meantime, they are fired and out of the bureaucracy.


39 posted on 05/21/2014 11:52:15 AM PDT by WMarshal (Free citizen, never a subject or a civilian)
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To: WMarshal

Reagan had guts AND the Air Traffic controllers in mass clearly violated their contract.
believe me it is nearly impossible to fire a federal employee.

yes 0dumbo could fire shineksi but at this point I don’t know if that is the smartest.
I HOPE there is so much pressure Shinseki buckles down and fires all those under him who went along with the appointment fraud scheme
There are enough whistleblowers now that for sure hundreds should be fired. NO compensation No laterls moves
LOSS of Job
of course I am dreaming
but this isn’t going away


40 posted on 05/21/2014 1:58:31 PM PDT by RWGinger
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