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Pentagon eyeing immigrants who arrived illegally
Associated Press ^ | May 20, 2014 6:00 PM EDT | Erica Werner

Posted on 05/21/2014 11:30:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai

Pentagon is weighing allowing some immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths to serve in the military, a unilateral step by the Obama administration as immigration legislation remains stalled in the Republican-led House.

The announcement came Tuesday as House Speaker John Boehner, R-Ohio, defended his election-year decision to rebuff a narrow immigration measure pushed by a GOP congressman to achieve a similar goal.

The Pentagon consideration would apply to immigrants who arrived illegally as kids but already have received work permits and relief from deportation under a program President Barack Obama announced two years ago, called Deferred Action for Childhood Arrivals, or DACA. More than 500,000 immigrants have benefited from the program. …

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TOPICS: Breaking News; Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia
KEYWORDS: aliens; braking; illegals; immigration; military; obama; pentagon
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1 posted on 05/21/2014 11:30:19 AM PDT by Olog-hai
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To: Olog-hai

If someone in this status volunteers to server our country and pledges loyalty and serves honorably, I have no problem with cranting them citizenship - but I dont think it is necessarily “constitutional” is it?


2 posted on 05/21/2014 11:32:17 AM PDT by Mr. K (If you like your constitution, you can keep it...Period. PALIN/CRUZ 2016)
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To: Olog-hai

The term is “press gang”.


3 posted on 05/21/2014 11:32:25 AM PDT by Fido969 (What's sad is most)
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To: Olog-hai

Currently the U.S. military is rejecting about 6 of 10 enlistment applications from Citizens of the United States.

Which illegal aliens do they plan to take in preference to the Americans?


4 posted on 05/21/2014 11:32:32 AM PDT by Regulator
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To: Regulator

Exactly! It is very hard to get in the military right now. There is no reason (other than political) to let them in the military.


5 posted on 05/21/2014 11:34:52 AM PDT by ThunderStruck94
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To: Regulator

bump

maybe the ones who were in prison and freed can become soldiers? lol


6 posted on 05/21/2014 11:34:52 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Olog-hai

This did NOT work out well for the Romans.


7 posted on 05/21/2014 11:35:06 AM PDT by RedStateRocker (Nuke Mecca, deport all illegal aliens, abolish the IRS, DEA and ATF.)
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To: Regulator

“Currently the U.S. military is rejecting about 6 of 10 enlistment applications from Citizens of the United States.

Which illegal aliens do they plan to take in preference to the Americans?”

What he said.


8 posted on 05/21/2014 11:35:12 AM PDT by thorvaldr
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To: Olog-hai
The French Foreign Legion is hiring.

Probably. I don't know. Go to France and check.

9 posted on 05/21/2014 11:36:29 AM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: Olog-hai

“Pentagon is weighing allowing some immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths to serve in the military”

Hell, it worked for Rome....said no one ever.


10 posted on 05/21/2014 11:36:39 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Mr. K

THe Government will build the units who will not hesitate to shoot Americans in the strret using illegals.They have no connection to our society and may ever hate Americans and welcome the chance to kill.


11 posted on 05/21/2014 11:38:21 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: ThunderStruck94

The DOD already announced they are scaling back in enlisted men and now these illegals are being hired? They’re loyalty is to their banana republic countries whence they came from.


12 posted on 05/21/2014 11:39:06 AM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Olog-hai

What military? Brownshirts?


13 posted on 05/21/2014 11:39:11 AM PDT by TribalPrincess2U (0bama's agenda¬óDivide and conquer seems to be working.)
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To: Fido969

The term is death squad.
This is how they will create them.


14 posted on 05/21/2014 11:39:51 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Olog-hai

>> immigrants brought illegally to the country as youths

They are foreigners. They are illegal aliens.


15 posted on 05/21/2014 11:39:54 AM PDT by Ray76 (True change requires true change - A Second Party)
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To: Olog-hai

This actually fits in very well with a grab for totalitarian control. Filling the military with America-haters effectively sidelines organizations such as Oath Keepers. These illegals might have less qualms about firing upon US citizens.


16 posted on 05/21/2014 11:40:24 AM PDT by LucianOfSamasota (Tanstaafl - its not just for breakfast anymore...)
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To: Mr. K

Sure, we are rejecting 80% of American applicants, and who needs all this security checking stuff, and character requirements, and eliminating criminals who are secretly living here.


17 posted on 05/21/2014 11:40:54 AM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Olog-hai
Will the illegals take the place of the trans-genders?
18 posted on 05/21/2014 11:41:15 AM PDT by FreedomGuru (Time for torches and pitchforks.)
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To: RedStateRocker
This did NOT work out well for the Romans.

Valerie Jarrett knows this all too well. Along with her commands to The Puppet in Chief to reduce the military and restrict new recruitment, she is putting in place the means to destroy our military from within...and America along with it.

Some say America is doomed. I say we had best get a real Conservative in the WH as fast as possible so some serious house cleaning can be done through all levels of this government. Then shrink it. If not, THEN we are doomed.

19 posted on 05/21/2014 11:41:45 AM PDT by Bloody Sam Roberts (Only Liberals can look at an amendment that says "shall not be infringed" and see blank parchment.)
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To: Olog-hai

Because enlisting foreign barbarians in the military worked out so well for the Roman Empire?


20 posted on 05/21/2014 11:42:10 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Olog-hai
The Pentagon consideration would apply to immigrants who arrived illegally as kids...

Odd that the author would use the word kids instead of children.

21 posted on 05/21/2014 11:43:48 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: Olog-hai

Are there any laws left that this arrogant SOB hasn’t broken yet?!


22 posted on 05/21/2014 11:44:38 AM PDT by kcvl
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Where else in the World is it possible to arrive illegally without be detained and returned?


23 posted on 05/21/2014 11:45:08 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Bloody Sam Roberts

Every move the EXEMPT make, every move RINOS make,
weakens and destroys America.

EVERY SINGLE DAY.


24 posted on 05/21/2014 11:46:11 AM PDT by Diogenesis
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To: Olog-hai

SoCal gang members have been joining the military for some time now in order to learn better combat skills and for access to weapons. Which they bring back to the streets.

This latest stroke of genius by Obama, and without a doubt seconded by the GOPe, will just increase the problem.


25 posted on 05/21/2014 11:46:55 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Regulator; Liz; AuntB; La Lydia; sickoflibs; stephenjohnbanker

Which illegal aliens do they plan to take in preference to the Americans?
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ALL of them...

there wont be any rejecting of 6 of 10 enlistment applications for the illegal aliens...

and just imagine...

American citizens would have to answer to illegal aliens superiors...

How would you handle a sgt who was here illegally and didn’t love our country or mean it when he took the oath of office ???

He could give you an Article 15 and hes not even here legally ...


26 posted on 05/21/2014 11:49:27 AM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: RedStateRocker
This did NOT work out well for the Romans.

Ah, yes. Quite true, it didn't. There are many parallels to history that don't bode well for us as it is.

27 posted on 05/21/2014 11:49:53 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Olog-hai

“The Pentagon wants `Manual Labor’”
To qualify, he must be cross-dressing pendejo o maricon phaggot.


28 posted on 05/21/2014 11:50:35 AM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: Farmer Dean

I fear it is a deliberate part of a larger, grander scheme.


29 posted on 05/21/2014 11:52:00 AM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Farmer Dean
There's plenty of legal immigrants from the third world who bear a grudge against American natives.

Americans who don't have the chance to read ethnic newspapers would be surprised.

30 posted on 05/21/2014 11:53:07 AM PDT by Pelham (If you do not deport it is amnesty by default.)
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To: Regulator
Currently the U.S. military is rejecting about 6 of 10 enlistment applications from Citizens of the United States.

Which illegal aliens do they plan to take in preference to the Americans?

Exactly what I was thinking, thank you, you stated it in much nicer terms than were ringing in my head.

31 posted on 05/21/2014 11:53:26 AM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: Jagdgewehr

Constitutio Antoniniana (aka Rome legalizes all non-citizens)

The Roman Jurist Ulpian in his work Digest stated ‘All persons throughout the Roman world were made Roman citizens by an edict of the Emperor Antoninus Caracalla’.

The context of the decree is still subject to dicussion. According to Cassius Dio the reasons Caracalla passed this law were mainly to increase the number of people available to tax. In the words of Cassius Dio: “This was the reason why he made all the people in his empire Roman citizens; nominally he was honouring them, but his real purpose was to increase his revenues by this means, inasmuch as aliens did not have to pay most of these taxes.”[2] It should, however, be noted that Cassius Dio generally saw Caracalla as a bad, contemptible emperor.

Another goal may have been to increase the number of men able to serve in the legions, as only full citizens could serve as legionaries in the Roman Army. Despite what might have been seen as easy benefits, the edict came at the cost to the auxiliaries, which primarily consisted of non-citizen men, and led to barbarization of the Roman military.

Additionally, before the edict, one of the main ways to acquire Roman citizenship was to enlist in the army, the completion of service in which would give the citizenship to the discharged soldier. The edict of 212 may have made enlistment in the army less attractive to most, hence the recruiting difficulties of the Roman army by the end of the 3rd century.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Constitutio_Antoniniana


32 posted on 05/21/2014 11:57:33 AM PDT by jimbo123
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To: Olog-hai

If they are “eyeing” them, then deport them and let them join the Mexican army.


33 posted on 05/21/2014 11:59:28 AM PDT by morphing libertarian ( On to impeachment and removal (IRS, Benghazi)!!!)
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To: Olog-hai
Just as it's true that whenever I look at a minority doctor...or lawyer...or cop,I ask myself “qualified,or affirmative action?” I think I'll start asking myself the same question whenever I see a member of our Armed Forces.Just another reason why I despise Osama Obama...calling into question the fitness of individuals and institutions that once were clearly worthy of respect.
34 posted on 05/21/2014 12:02:49 PM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Olog-hai

Hagel rewarding the anus lickers, trannies, Muslim Brotherhood, lesbian fisters, feminist liars, drunk female single moms, and false accusers.


35 posted on 05/21/2014 12:06:53 PM PDT by SkyPilot
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To: Olog-hai

Obama had to get his army somewhere.

That said, given how the military rejects 80% of potential recruits, I don’t see why this would be needed or effective, except as a political stunt.


36 posted on 05/21/2014 12:13:35 PM PDT by Jewbacca (The residents of Iroquois territory may not determine whether Jews may live in Jerusalem)
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To: SkyPilot

Isn’t Hagel one those Republicans we keep hearing about? You know, one of those indispensable party men we need to stand up against Obama and his Democrats?


37 posted on 05/21/2014 12:14:26 PM PDT by Jagdgewehr (It will take blood.)
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To: Gay State Conservative

When you see a female in uniform, you know the answer.


38 posted on 05/21/2014 12:14:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Olog-hai

If Obama has an illegal alien in uniform to point to during a State Of the Union Address it will be the first time Moochele is proud of her military.

The Media will dutifully...after a pause and with a teary in their eye...parrot that the illegals are doing the jobs that Americans won’t do.


39 posted on 05/21/2014 12:15:40 PM PDT by Fitzy_888 ("ownership society")
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To: Mr. K

Well we need jobs and the military is a job. Sorry but why are we lookimg to give away even more jobs? Its living in the past to not recognize that service is more than that at this time. Its a replacement for college. Its taken the place of apprentice prograams.
No. We can’t view joingh the military as simple serving thee country any longer. Its far more than that.


40 posted on 05/21/2014 12:17:01 PM PDT by wiggen (The teacher card. When the racism card just won't work.)
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To: Olog-hai

I just read a few days ago how “picky” the Services are and how they turn away 8 of every 10 applicants. Maybe I am being cynical, but watch these illegals jump to the front of the line. Especially if they are LGBT.


41 posted on 05/21/2014 12:17:47 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Olog-hai

There are many immigrants living in this country legally and are now permitted to enlist in the armed services. I allow illegals to enlist would be dangerous to our national security on several levers - how do you verify birth certificates, education, criminal record, etc.?

By what authority does the Pentagon or WH think they can do this? Executive Orders don’t have it.


42 posted on 05/21/2014 12:25:15 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Olog-hai

There are many immigrants living in this country legally and are now permitted to enlist in the armed services. I allow illegals to enlist would be dangerous to our national security on several levers - how do you verify birth certificates, education, criminal record, etc.?

By what authority does the Pentagon or WH think they can do this? Executive Orders don’t have it.


43 posted on 05/21/2014 12:25:47 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: elpadre

Previous post Corrected:

There are many immigrants living in this country legally and are now permitted to enlist in the armed services. To allow illegals to enlist would be dangerous to our national security on several levels - how do you verify birth certificates, education, criminal record, etc.?

By what authority does the Pentagon or WH think they can do this? Executive Orders don’t have it


44 posted on 05/21/2014 12:28:02 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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To: Regulator

they will take the ones who will shoot their fellow Americans


45 posted on 05/21/2014 12:28:06 PM PDT by Ouderkirk (To the left, everything must evidence that this or that strand of leftist theory is true)
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To: VanDeKoik

Rome lasted for 1,000 years


46 posted on 05/21/2014 12:29:09 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Farmer Dean

what will Washington do with these death squads?


47 posted on 05/21/2014 12:30:25 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: SkyPilot

Hagel is rewarding “drunk female single moms”? how? and “female...moms” is redundant


48 posted on 05/21/2014 12:32:34 PM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: Ouderkirk
they will take the ones who will shoot their fellow Americans

BINGO!!!!!

49 posted on 05/21/2014 12:33:30 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: Ray76; Olog-hai

Not illegal babies. The program covers illegals up to 31 years of age.


50 posted on 05/21/2014 12:35:00 PM PDT by SisterK (behold a pale horse)
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