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The Philippines' forgotten generation
BBC ^ | 20 May 2014 | Staff

Posted on 05/22/2014 4:26:02 AM PDT by csvset

The United States military is set to return to the Philippines 22 years after being evicted. The imminent arrival of US forces has renewed focus on the thousands of "Amerasians" fathered by US military personnel. Aya Lowe went in search of this forgotten generation.

Mary-Jane Stephens lives in a gritty one-room house with her three children and three grandchildren. Two sprawling mattresses pushed together make up the sleeping area, while one stove, sofa and TV make up the rest of the household. Continue reading the main story Philippines Direct branding graphic

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She "worked the bars" in the red-light district that grew up around the major US military bases north of Manila established following World War Two.

She now dedicates her time to taking care of the grandchildren. Her children don't earn much, but they keep the family in food and water.

In the more than two decades that the bases were operating, hundreds of thousands of US servicemen were stationed at the naval and air force facilities or passed through on their way to conflicts in the region such as the Vietnam and Korean Wars. Continue reading the main story “Start Quote Ashley Descalier

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Ashley Descalier Amerasian

Many struck up relationships with local women, many of whom, like Mary-Jane, struck up relationships with Americans.

"When you meet them, they make you believe it's love and that it's going to last forever, but then they just leave," the 41-year-old says.

Each of her children has a different father. Each one was a US serviceman.


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs
KEYWORDS: amerasians; blasians; philippines
There are now an estimated quarter of a million Amerasians in the Philippines who can trace their heritage back to US servicemen, a relationship that now stretches back several generations.

It wasn't me. Never made it to the PI during my time in the Navy.

1 posted on 05/22/2014 4:26:02 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

African American fathers left their families behind? Who knew?


2 posted on 05/22/2014 4:35:59 AM PDT by larryjohnson (USAF(Ret))
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To: larryjohnson
I'm sure it was just black guys.

I did notice this from te story though, Each of her children has a different father.

Once she went black she never went back?

3 posted on 05/22/2014 4:42:46 AM PDT by csvset
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To: larryjohnson

Not to say that they all were black Americans, but this article did nothing to lay the blame to the Philippine government for allowing and even supporting places like Angeles City. BBC just takes another swipe at all Americans.

I did not serve or even pass through PI. I saw a version of Angeles City in the southern area of Teheran that was nicknamed “Camel Town” by the US contingent but the locals translation for it was “New City”. Everyone knew it was there and what it was. You could smell it outside of the walls.


4 posted on 05/22/2014 4:43:39 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: mazda77

My time in the Far East was spent (primarily) in Korea, and you saw the same thing there, although many of the Korean girls were expert at bilking American service members for cash and merchandise, then kicking them to the curb when they were about to PCS.

One of the NCOs who worked for me “fell in love” with a Korean “juicy girl” who lived in the local bar district. He even wrangled permission to move off base (fairly rare in those days) and set up housekeeping with his girl friend. Over the next few months, he spent thousands on furniture, appliances and clothing, in preparation for her move to the U.S. when he rotated to Fort Meade. About a month before his PCS date, she announced that everything was off, and she was keeping all of the “presents.”

In another case, I sat on the court martial panel for a young one-striper who was sent to Korea fresh out of tech school. During his first week in-country, he met a juicy who promised her undying love. Not surprisingly, she had sick relatives and need financial help. So, the airman started bouncing checks all over base to support his girl friend. By the time he was court-martialed, he had written over $5K in bad checks and his military career was ruined. He got a BCD, two months in an Army brig, and a ticket home—all before his 20th birthday.

A good friend of mine was also stationed in Korea at the same time—he had the same job at Osan that I held at Kunsan. He told me that a senior NCO working for him decided to have a little blow-out bash before heading back to his wife and kids in the states. He took $9K in advance pay and 10 days leave in-country before heading home. The NCO—a MSgt—blew the entire wad on a hotel room, booze and an endless parade of hookers that passed through his suite. God knows what he took home to his wife—besides an empty wallet.

I’m hardly a prude, but I can say I never made it to the local bar district during my time in Korea. For that, I can partially thank my predecessor. He spent most of his tour chasing Korean girls and playing intramural sports, so that meant I had to work 14-16 hours a day fixing everything he left undone. But there were many airmen like my predecessor; you could find them at the same place every day at 5 pm—waiting to catch the bus to “A Town” and the evening’s activities.


5 posted on 05/22/2014 5:03:33 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: csvset
From the article: Most of us didn't get to meet our fathers. And now that the bases are coming back, thousands of Filipino-Amerasians are expected to be born."

I've got a great idea! Rather then moan about the illegitimate children that will be born, how about keeping your legs closed until there is a ring on your finger!

It may be unfair but that's how life works. If you act like a slut, you get treated like a slut.

6 posted on 05/22/2014 5:07:52 AM PDT by John O (God Save America (Please))
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To: larryjohnson
African American fathers left their families behind? Who knew?

C'mon....are you saying that white guys would never have done that?

7 posted on 05/22/2014 5:16:19 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: John O
Rather then moan about the illegitimate children that will be born, how about keeping your legs closed until there is a ring on your finger!

I've seen it written that it takes two to tango.Legs closed AND zipper up.

8 posted on 05/22/2014 5:18:05 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: John O

“But he said he LOVES me”

Keeping your legs together doesn’t help the cash flow.


9 posted on 05/22/2014 5:23:08 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: csvset
Each of her children has a different father.

Why, it's almost as if she chose, over and over again, to engage in sexual relationships with American military men.

10 posted on 05/22/2014 5:26:15 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: csvset

And this, dear libertarians, is why prostitution should be illegal. Children have a natural right to have a father. If you violate that child’s natural right, you belong in jail.


11 posted on 05/22/2014 5:26:46 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: csvset
Many struck up relationships with local women, many of whom, like Mary-Jane, struck up relationships with Americans.

But some of them struck up relationships with local women who DIDN'T strike up relationships with Americans? Or what?

Who writes this garble, cats?

12 posted on 05/22/2014 5:29:22 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: csvset

Happened in Germany too.


13 posted on 05/22/2014 5:34:39 AM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

Proudly never crossed the bridge in Subic.


14 posted on 05/22/2014 5:36:11 AM PDT by Resolute Conservative
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To: Tax-chick
Whole lot of strucking up going on around in here.

British cats.

Wot? Ey !

15 posted on 05/22/2014 5:36:26 AM PDT by csvset
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To: csvset

I’ll bet he’s fathered some fine looking kittens!


16 posted on 05/22/2014 5:37:27 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: Resolute Conservative

I crossed the bridge to join the Olongopo Jaycees

I made many friends in the business community there


17 posted on 05/22/2014 5:41:41 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ALPAPilot
And this, dear libertarians, is why prostitution should be illegal. Children have a natural right to have a father. If you violate that child’s natural right, you belong in jail.

Moronic. There is no such "right", in law or in religion. Just your own baseless feel-good opinion.

Hint: To be a Right, it must be enforceable by government. Exactly how do you propose forcing parenthood on someone when a fatherless or motherless child (death, abandonment, unknown DNA source, etc) comes forward to exercise this "right"?

18 posted on 05/22/2014 5:46:50 AM PDT by Teacher317 (We have now sunk to a depth at which restatement of the obvious is the first duty of intelligent men)
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To: csvset
There are now an estimated quarter of a million Amerasians in the Philippines who can trace their heritage back to US servicemen, a relationship that now stretches back several generations.

And they say that like its a bad thing . . ?

19 posted on 05/22/2014 5:51:37 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: ALPAPilot
And this, dear libertarians, is why prostitution should be illegal. Children have a natural right to have a father. If you violate that child’s natural right, you belong in jail.

I suppose you also want to jail all men who engage in non-marital sex? Do you want to jail the women too? If not, why not?

How about prostitutes who have had IUDs or other reliable birth control inserted?

20 posted on 05/22/2014 5:54:52 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: Gay State Conservative; larryjohnson
African American fathers left their families behind? Who knew?

C'mon....are you saying that white guys would never have done that?

Hint: the answer is in the article.

("According to one estimate, a quarter of Amerasians in the Philippines are of African-American descent." - do the math)

21 posted on 05/22/2014 6:07:39 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: larryjohnson

Frequently they were there less than a month, and never knew they fathered a child.

Kind of like Baltimore, only across the ocean.


22 posted on 05/22/2014 6:08:15 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Teacher317

And this, oh scripturaly illiterate one, is why Paultards are made fun of.

When faced with a truth about sexual matters they don’t like libertines deny things that have been set to print for thousands of years...and imagine that nobody will have read the bible.


23 posted on 05/22/2014 6:15:57 AM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Moltke
Hint: the answer is in the article.

OK...but the question still stands: is the problem that our guys left babies behind or is the problem that our *black* guys left babies behind?

24 posted on 05/22/2014 6:38:02 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative

Clearly the former, IMHO.


25 posted on 05/22/2014 8:14:19 AM PDT by Moltke (Sapere aude!)
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To: ExNewsExSpook

What was with the AF in sending slick sleevers to Korea? Young guys who never got laid were thrown into that sh—hole! My first supervisor in the AF actually married one and brought her to England. I will never forget this barely 5 foot nothing talking at this 6 foot guy like he was a piece of trash. I just stood there shocked that he would take that from that!


26 posted on 05/22/2014 8:36:55 AM PDT by gr8eman (There's no "R" in Warshington!)
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To: Teacher317
Moronic. There is no such "right", in law or in religion. Just your own baseless feel-good opinion.

Mine and William Blackstone - Book I Chapter 16

THE duty of parents to provide for the maintenance of their children is a principle of natural law ; an obligation, says Puffendorf, laid on them not only by nature herself, but by their own proper act, in bringing them into the world: for they would be in the highest manner injurious to their issue, if they only gave the children life, that they might afterwards see them perish. By begetting them therefore they have entered into a voluntary obligation, to endeavour, as far as in them lies, that the life which they have bestowed shall be supported and preserved. And thus the children will have a perfect right of receiving maintenance from their parents. And the president Montesquieu has a very just observation upon this head : that the establishment of marriage in all civilized states is built on this natural obligation of the father to provide for his children; for that ascertains and makes known the person who is bound to fulfil this obligation: whereas, in promiscuous and illicit conjunctions, the father is unknown ; and the mother finds a thousand obfsacles in her way ; --- shame, remorse, the constraint of her sex, and the rigor of laws ; --- that stifle her inclinations to perform this duty : and besides, the generally wants ability.

The municipal laws of all well-regulated states have taken care to enforce this duty : though providence has done it more effectually than any laws, by implanting in the breast of every parent that natural sopyn, or insuperable degree of affection, which not even the deformity of person or mind, not even the wickedness, ingratitude, and rebellion of children, can totally suppress or extinguish.

Ignorantia juris non excusat

The willful ignorance of our "teachers" have led us to abortion on demand and "gay marriage." Please tell me your not a teacher.

27 posted on 05/23/2014 7:22:14 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: PapaBear3625
I suppose you also want to jail all men who engage in non-marital sex? Do you want to jail the women too? If not, why not?

How about prostitutes who have had IUDs or other reliable birth control inserted?

We already jail prostitutes and those who solicit them. (They show it on cops all the time.)

Those who contract an obligation who are unable to fulfill it should be punished.

28 posted on 05/23/2014 7:41:28 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: ALPAPilot
We already jail prostitutes and those who solicit them. (They show it on cops all the time.) Those who contract an obligation who are unable to fulfill it should be punished.

So, by your words, you would be in favor of punishing women who become pregnant by some guy who she knows is unable to support a child.

What sort of punishment would you favor? Jail? Forced sterilization?

29 posted on 05/23/2014 8:17:20 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625
So, by your words, you would be in favor of punishing women who become pregnant by some guy who she knows is unable to support a child

. What sort of punishment would you favor? Jail? Forced sterilization?

If a women gets pregnant by consensual sex with a married man with children we should make her wear a scarlet A.

30 posted on 05/23/2014 8:41:18 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: gr8eman

The Air Force’s concern was filling billets, and if they had to send kids fresh out of tech school, so be it. Of course, that made it tougher for the line chiefs, shop supervisors and other maintenance personnel.

Kunsan was—and is—a tip-of-the-sword, front-line combat unit. If the balloon goes up in Korea, you need experienced hands to generate maximum sorties to blunt the NK attack, until reinforcements start showing up. It would be hard enough doing that in a chemo/bio environment, while dodging attacks by NORK special forces. But if the assistant crew chief is still going through upgrade training, or you’re having to take kids in the engine or avionics shop through upgrade, it becomes that much tougher.

In fairness, we didn’t see a lot of slick sleeves at the Kun during my day. In my organization (non-maintenance), our least-experienced troop was a Senior Airman waiting to pin on SSgt, and he had two previous tours under his belt. The Air Force also realized that off-base diversions could destroy a lot of kids, so there were assignment teams at AFPC that tried to keep first-termers out of there. But sometimes manning/availability dictated sending a kid fresh out of tech school. The smart ones stayed on base and kept their noses on the grind stone. The dumb ones—like the airman were court-martialed—lost their careers.

And it wasn’t just off-base. Twenty years ago, Kunsan was known as the last “wild life refuge” in the Air Force. I lived in a junior officers dorm with pilots from one of the F-16 squadron and you’d always see some cute, female airman leaving an officer’s room early in the morning. And, in one of the ultimate ironies from my tour, one of the biggest whore-mongers on the base was one of the JAGs. One of his colleagues told me that their office staff had voted him “most likely to die of AIDS.”

I was told that Kunsan became a much more “sober” place in the years after I left. I hope so.


31 posted on 05/23/2014 8:51:33 AM PDT by ExNewsExSpook
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To: csvset

Mary Jane Stevens looking for her father when she was young.

32 posted on 05/23/2014 8:58:59 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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If a women gets pregnant by consensual sex with a married man with children we should make her wear a scarlet A.

How about a woman who gets pregnant by a man who has no income which can be garnished, or by a man whose real name she didn't bother to find out, and whose whereabouts she has no knowledge of?

There are charming men in the "inner city" who have lots of kids (like Larry Luthor, who has fathered 23 kids by various women). There is no way to extract any meaningful amount of child support for each of the kids from this person.

Besides putting a scarlet S on the mothers, what is your suggestion for discouraging them from screwing charming-but-unemployed men?

33 posted on 05/23/2014 9:35:45 AM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: csvset

I’m sorry, but I have to put the blame on the soldiers and sailors. It comes down to one simple phrase: keep your dick in your pants.

I’m a field grade officer with 19 years in. Seen too many young dumb soldiers screw their lives up because they couldn’t follow the simple phrase above. No sympathy.


34 posted on 05/23/2014 9:58:20 AM PDT by strider44
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