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Obama Administration just got caught in a massive lie
Fox News ^ | 5/22/14 | WVOC

Posted on 05/22/2014 9:24:10 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue

The LA Times has been as friendly as possible to the Obama administration, but they can't ignore this. Today they broke the story that another massive lie around Obamacare has been told to the Congress and the American people. As you know "If you like your health plan, you can keep your health plan" was ranked as the biggest lie of the year by the Washington Post. Well here comes an early contender for this year's award.

The Republicans have been accusing the Obama administration of building into Obamacare an insurance plan for the insurance companies. A bailout if the insurance companies lost money under Obamacare. Their claim was that in the law was something called the temporary risk corridor program. Under that Republicans said the administration had allowed themselves a way to take tax dollars and bailout an insurance company that lost money. But the administration and the Democrats have denied that. Apparently the administration and the Democrats had been telling the truth...and didn't like it.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: obamacare
Whoda thunk?
1 posted on 05/22/2014 9:24:10 AM PDT by TangledUpInBlue
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Perhaps an event of a more amazing nature would be if members of this administration were caught telling the truth!


2 posted on 05/22/2014 9:26:46 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Which massive lie was that?


3 posted on 05/22/2014 9:28:41 AM PDT by ArtDodger
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To: TangledUpInBlue

“We gotta pass the bill before we know what’s in it”...... bit#h.


4 posted on 05/22/2014 9:29:42 AM PDT by high info voter
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To: ArtDodger
Which massive lie was that?

There have been many, but this article is referring to the lie that the Regime told when it said Obamacare would not include a big bail out for insurance companies.

It included temporary bail out provisions and now includes more permanent bail out relief.
5 posted on 05/22/2014 9:31:49 AM PDT by caligatrux (...some animals are more equal than others.)
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To: high info voter

Liars lie. There should be no shock there.


6 posted on 05/22/2014 9:31:51 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Comments at the site being added multiple times a minute! Fun to watch.


7 posted on 05/22/2014 9:32:15 AM PDT by Salvation ("With God all things are possible." Matthew 19:26)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Democrats Lying??? Liars?

Democrats are SCOUNDRELS. They make pirates look honest.

Democrats are shameless liars and at some point in their scoundrel existence it will come back to bite them.


8 posted on 05/22/2014 9:32:32 AM PDT by A message
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To: TangledUpInBlue

YAWN!


9 posted on 05/22/2014 9:32:51 AM PDT by YHAOS
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The story here is that the executive branch is writing law and spending money under the guise of regulation.

The executive branch has no authority to do this, and Congress MUST stop them.


10 posted on 05/22/2014 9:37:01 AM PDT by Triple (Socialism denies people the right to the fruits of their labor, and is as abhorrent as slavery)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Again ?


11 posted on 05/22/2014 9:39:35 AM PDT by ▀udda▀udd (>> F U B O << "What the hell kind of country is this if I can only hate a man if he's white?")
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Insurance companies wouldn’t have signed onto the Obamacare scam had they not believed bailouts were coming. Democrats now own the insurance companies, bought and paid for by millions of people who can’t afford it.


12 posted on 05/22/2014 9:40:58 AM PDT by pallis
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To: TangledUpInBlue

What, another one?

Too many to keep track of.


13 posted on 05/22/2014 9:42:23 AM PDT by AFreeBird
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To: TangledUpInBlue

The lie is to be expected. I think the bigger scandal here is the Admin is telling insurance companies not to raise rates until the mid-terms are over and that the “risk corridor” program will cover them.

In short, spending our money on keeping Democrats in office.


14 posted on 05/22/2014 9:42:25 AM PDT by IamConservative (If fighting fire with fire is a good idea, why do the pros use water?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue; All

I think the headline should be.....obama admin just got caught NOT telling a lie!


15 posted on 05/22/2014 9:43:36 AM PDT by ColdOne (I miss my poochie... Tasha 2000~3/14/11))
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS
this administration were caught telling the truth!

Now there should be a headline printed in 108 point bold, above the fold page one of the NYSlimes - hey I can dream can't I?
16 posted on 05/22/2014 9:43:43 AM PDT by Cheerio (Barry Hussein Soetoro-0bama=The Complete Destruction of American Capitalism)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
they can't ignore this

Wrong. They can ignore anything they want. They're the MSM.

19 posted on 05/22/2014 9:45:57 AM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
At the end of the article is this:

The Republicans are expected to go nuts over this, and the Democrats will point at the scene they are making and say 'look how fanatical those people are'. I would warn Republicans against making a big deal out of this.

Who is the "I" here? Was it written by a concern troll?

20 posted on 05/22/2014 9:46:36 AM PDT by Menehune56 ("Let them hate so long as they fear" (Oderint Dum Metuant), Lucius Accius (170 BC - 86 BC))
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I don’t really think that obama and his minions really care what the people think. After all, he has a pen, a phone, and happens to have control of a corrupted military, along with every law enforcement agency, along with the backing of every socialist, communist, crony capitalist, and every media outlet, along with the 47% of the gimmedat population. I doubt he gives a shit what anybody thinks of him, because he has the gun, and you don’t. Hitler, Mugabe, Chavez, or even Stalin couldn’t have done a better job themselves.


21 posted on 05/22/2014 9:47:08 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
Terrible writing. I am still having trouble deciphering this paragraph from the excerpt:

The Republicans have been accusing the Obama administration of building into Obamacare an insurance plan for the insurance companies. A bailout if the insurance companies lost money under Obamacare. Their claim was that in the law was something called the temporary risk corridor program. Under that Republicans said the administration had allowed themselves a way to take tax dollars and bailout an insurance company that lost money. But the administration and the Democrats have denied that. Apparently the administration and the Democrats had been telling the truth...and didn't like it.

From the linked article:

The LA Times reports that late last week hundreds of pages of new regulations were added to Obamacare. Their reporters went through it and found a few key paragraphs. The change in regulations essentially provides insurers with another backup: If they keep rate increases modest over the next couple of years but lose money, the administration will tap federal funds as needed to cover shortfalls. This could be hundreds of billions of dollars!

It appears to me that it was the Republicans who have been telling the truth, whereas the article seems to say that the dems were being truthful.

(As if the Obama administration would know the truth if it bit them!)

22 posted on 05/22/2014 9:48:12 AM PDT by MortMan (Avoid temporary variables and strange women.)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

osama obama telling lies is hardly news.


23 posted on 05/22/2014 9:49:55 AM PDT by pgkdan (ISLAM IS THE RELIGION OF THE ANTICHRIST!)
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To: ColdOne
I think the headline should be.....obama admin just got caught NOT telling a lie!

You'd need rock solid evidence , that kind of statement gets people in trouble. :)

24 posted on 05/22/2014 9:50:48 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day.)
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To: pgkdan

They don’t call him “Obama Bin Lyin” for nothing.


25 posted on 05/22/2014 9:50:58 AM PDT by dfwgator
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To: A message

A scoundrel is a dashing rogue type you are upset your daughter is dating.

Democrats are human garbage. And I’m unsure about the human part.


26 posted on 05/22/2014 10:03:31 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

FReepers have been predicting an insurance company bailout from the very beginning. We don’t have a government anymore, we have a federal protection racket.


27 posted on 05/22/2014 10:04:46 AM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Triple
Congress MUST stop them.

This is the all the pretext the House needs to "defund" Obamacare. By order of Obama (ie regulation), U.S. taxpayers will fund several trillion dollars over the next few years to subsidize Obamacare premiums and the compensate insurance companies for any losses suffered by them. This "risk pathway" was never envisioned by the ACAct passed by Congress. It breaks the CBO budget assumptions made at the time of passage. It is also contrary to the spirit of the legislation passed by Congress. It was carried out over Obama's signature alone, with no authorization from Congress. In substance, it is a material change to the legislation carried out by the executive branch without Congressional authorization.

The House now has the political cover, pretext, reason and constitutional mandate, to carry out its constitutional duty and defund Obamacare. The method would be to pass continuing resolutions to fund the government only upon the condition that none of those funds are used for the administration or funding of Obamacare.

If properly presented to the public, there would be broad political support for the House preventing this abuse of executive power by Obama.

28 posted on 05/22/2014 10:06:12 AM PDT by Praxeologue
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To: Salvation

Fast enough you can’t keep up!!


29 posted on 05/22/2014 10:06:12 AM PDT by OregonRancher (Some days, it's not even worth chewing through the restraints)
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30 posted on 05/22/2014 10:07:42 AM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

This is the bribe that the ceo’s of the insurance companies accepted so the democrats could take control of the healthcare industry. They will get huge payouts in their pay while you pay more for insurance and less medical care.

Meanwhile congress exempted themselves. You pay for them.


31 posted on 05/22/2014 10:07:46 AM PDT by minnesota_bound
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To: TangledUpInBlue

32 posted on 05/22/2014 10:08:19 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (The last remnants of the Old Republic have been swept away.)
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To: AEMILIUS PAULUS

exactly, is this really news? lol


33 posted on 05/22/2014 10:08:56 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Norm Lenhart

Human garbage is apt.

Definitions for scoundrel include dishonest, direputable,villainous, base, rascal. I stand by my useage.


34 posted on 05/22/2014 10:09:38 AM PDT by A message
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To: Triple
"The story here is that the executive branch is writing law and spending money under the guise of regulation.

The executive branch has no authority to do this, and Congress MUST stop them."

Too right you are! Devil's in the details, a.k.a. the "rules" writers...

35 posted on 05/22/2014 10:17:21 AM PDT by 88keys (broken glass GOP; it matters, replace the Dems. 2014!!)
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To: A message
Democrats Lying??? Liars? Democrats are SCOUNDRELS. They make pirates look honest.

They all are!

Do you think the Speaker of the House (a.k.a. the human Cheese Puff) is honest?

Then we have the Tweedledum to the Senate's Tweedledee, Mitch McConnell.

36 posted on 05/22/2014 10:20:18 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: A message

I wouldn’t say it’s ‘wrong’, just seems to be a bit on the mellow side of terms for what Democrats actually are in reality.

When you (the general you) look at their history back to they Klan and beyond, they are an evil on the order of history’s greats. But where people like Mao and Stalin just wiped out their problems wholesale, dems prefer to corrupt them, make them suffer and off them in less direct ways...like attrition through Obamacare.

Sure, their death toll isn’t on par with the others...yet. But O care guarantees it will be within a decade or two once the medications stop being produced and all doctors speak Pakistani.

And that does not count those that will die from starvation or exposure once food and energy become unaffordable or unobtainable.


37 posted on 05/22/2014 10:22:39 AM PDT by Norm Lenhart (How's that 'lesser evil' workin' out for ya?)
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38 posted on 05/22/2014 10:27:22 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: F15Eagle

That’s part of their ploy. Just throw it all out there, pile after pile of scandal, subterfuge, lies, misinformation, etc., so that it’s so daunting to tackle, that your enemies can not stave off one part of the fire while it burns in another part.

I’m very worried for this country. Do we have the fortitude to fight back? I mean.. literally FIGHT.


39 posted on 05/22/2014 10:28:20 AM PDT by Thorliveshere (Minnesota Survivor)
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To: TangledUpInBlue
the big lie here is that the bailout money will go to health insurance companies which supposedly have lost money by providing payments to cover obozocare. Is there any agency in this government that is, not just supposed to be, but is following where all the billions have gone under this administration?? $600 billion to build the ACA web site that doesn't even work?? Really?? And the billions more obozo spends on green energy. Congress’ approval is now at 17%? To me and across the board, DC is one huge negative for all of us.
40 posted on 05/22/2014 11:40:43 AM PDT by drypowder
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>> A bailout if the insurance companies lost money

The insurance companies were complicit in the betrayal of the Country. All participating executes and board members should be put on trial for treason.


41 posted on 05/22/2014 11:44:50 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: TangledUpInBlue

Nothing will come of it. Move along.


42 posted on 05/22/2014 11:46:38 AM PDT by JaguarXKE (1973: Reporters investigate All the President's Men. 2013: Reporters ARE all the President's men)
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To: drypowder
$600 billion to build the ACA web site that doesn't even work?? Really??

I know it's easy to get lost in the "illions" of $$ spent in DC, but the ACA web site implementation was around $600 million, not billion. Which is still an outrageous amount of money to build a web site, even a complex web site like healthcare.gov.

44 posted on 05/22/2014 2:16:09 PM PDT by ELS
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To: TangledUpInBlue

I’m shocked I tell you, shocked.


45 posted on 05/22/2014 2:17:36 PM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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To: Menehune56; MortMan

The article appears to be written by a hacker or something. I can’t believe this post on the FoxNews web site was seen by a human editor.


46 posted on 05/22/2014 2:19:06 PM PDT by ELS
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To: ELS

You’re right, thank you for the correction. What’s a decimal point or two or three ……… with this bunch in the WH


47 posted on 05/22/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by drypowder
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