Skip to comments.Poll: Lamar Alexander Ahead of Primary Challenger, Under 50 Percent
Posted on 05/22/2014 12:10:43 PM PDT by Engraved-on-His-hands
Sen. Lamar Alexander (R-TN) is well ahead of his Republican primary challenger but polling under 50 percent a few months ahead of his August primary, a new poll provided exclusively to Breitbart News shows. Alexander leads Tea Party-backed state Rep. Joe Carr 44-20, the Triton Polling poll of approximately 1037 likely GOP primary voters and conducted Wednesday this week found. The poll was commissioned by Tea Party Nation.
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Crap! Hoping the poll is incorrect, but I was beginning to wonder.
For an incumbent to be only polling at 44%, that is generally very bad news for the incumbent. Undecideds usually do not break for the incumbent.
I don’t care who wins TN primary so long as he/she is the most electable republican in general election in November.
Isn’t the primary soon?
I’m SO sick of the MORONS who vote in this country. Ask ANY of them what they think of COngress and they hate it more than Obama.
BUT, present them with an opportunity to make a DIFFERENCE and VOTE OUT career criminal incumbents, they ALWAYS go the OTHER way!!!
Not until August 7th. There is still time.
Carr getting his name and political philosophy out will be huge in the coming weeks. The article says that only 28% know Carr well enough to give an opinion about him, but that 57% of people would support a conservative challenger to Alexander.
Thanks for the poll info, EOHH.
Although a lot of territory separates the two, being at 44 does not bode well for Alexander.
Once the other big primaries are over, I’m hoping the SCF, CFG, Freedom Works, and other groups will jump in to support Carr.
Maybe the conservative electorate is getting sick of the Tea Party being a nebulous concept that private organizations raise money off of and produce little results, and not a real political party?
The tea party has now leadership, no HQ, no apparatus, no media arm. Just some people calling themselves “tea party groups” and they don’t even know who the other is nor do they coordinate very well. That stuff was cute and fun back in 2010 when it kept the media and DNC off-balance, but the other side has become more savvy along with the eGOP.
And you cant have a “civil war” in a political party and think the establishment is just going to roll over. All it takes is a string of loses in primaries and the nebulous movement collapses because there is no leadership to hold accountable, and no ability to change strategy. And it no longer is considered “fun” for too many.
Don’t forget this one!
“I dont care who wins TN primary so long as he/she is the most electable republican in general election in November.”
It’s not likely this seat will go Dim.
I expected this. Alexander has so much money he has been running ads since September.
I was one of the voters polled for this one and chose Carr and contributed to Lamar’s negatives. :)
Carr has done close to NOTHING in terms of mounting a campaign.
Can't WIN if you don't PLAY.
Boggles the mind, doesn’t it?
Don’t care about poll results. Recent polling said a majority of Tennesseans favor Common Core and free college...there are a lot of uniformed people being polled.
I will vote Carr in the primary and if he doesn’t win not vote for the liberal Alexander in the general because its silly to reward a big govt Republican.
They have a lot of choices in the Senate race in KY if all the candidates listed at
the TN SOS web site actually get on the ballot. There are 8 Republicans, 4 Democrats,
1 Green and 10 Independents listed with a filing deadline of April, 3.
TN has an open primary in that you don’t register by party and can select which
party you want to vote in when you choose your ballot at the polls. Correct?
Hmmm... if the establishment wanted to demoralize the Tea Party and had a large campaign chest. Why not set up a straw man Tea Party candidate and encourage him to not actively campaign. Have him make a little noise for publicity sake and let the media destroy the Tea Party after the primary.
Hmmm... if the establishment candidate wanted to demoralize the Tea Party and had a large campaign chest. Why not set up a straw man Tea Party candidate and encourage him to not actively campaign. Have him make a little noise for free publicity sake and let the media destroy the Tea Party after the primary.
The latest Vanderbilt Poll released May 21, shows that Carr isn’t well known across
the state with 55% saying they have never heard of him. I’m not familiar with
the race so I don’t know if Carr isn’t campaigning or lacks finances to do so.
I’ve never had to do that so I think TN is a closed primary state.
Carr has my vote and from what I hear around town a LOT of other folks will vote the same way.
I was just putting on a tin foil hat for the fun of it. But several races had Tea Party candidates that were blithering idiots or did even attempt to campaign. The poster above does make a point, organization of the Tea Party with a headquarters and a strong leader is needed.
Along with Chris McDaniel in MS and Richard Cash in SC, state Representative Joe Carr of TN is a Tea Party challenger to a GOP Senator that deserves our support, since he is qualified, experienced, far more conservative than the incumbent, and would win the general election handily. Senator Lamar Alexander is far less conservative than incumbent Senators for whose heads many FReepers have (or had) been calling, such as Pat Roberts of KS, Mitch McConnell of KY, John Cornyn of TX and Mike Enzi of WY, and Joe Carr has a proven conservative record and is a much better overall candidate than the proffered “Tea Party alternatives” in KS, KY, TX and WY.
Joe Carr has a tough row to hoe in order to beat Alexander and claim the GOP Senate nomination (and thus the Senate seat). There are six other Republicans running in the primary, so the anti-Alexander vote could be diluted if conservatives don’t coalesce around Carr; unlike in, say, SC, where job-one is to hold Lindsey Graham under 50% and force a run-off, TN does not have a run-off when the first-place finisher gets below 50% of the vote, so Carr won’t get a second bite at the apple and needs to get more votes than Alexander in the primary to defeat him. Fortunately, the TN primary isn’t until August 7, so Carr has plenty of time to catch up to Alexander and pull off the upset. For that to occur, however, we need all hands on deck. Joe Carr is one candidate on which all FReepers should be able to agree, and he needs your help in order not to get swamped by Alexander’s money.
There are a lot of FReepers who have seen their preferred candidates lose in gubernatorial, Senate and House primaries so far this cycle (myself included). Well, you can adopt Joe Carr as your new favorite. You know those $20 you were going to send to your preferred candidate who didn’t make it? Send it to Joe Carr’s campaign—he can beat Alexander if he improves his fundraising, and won’t be able to beat him if he doesn’t, so your dollars will have more of an impact in the TN Senate race than practically anywhere else.
Unlike many electoral goals for which we may wish from time to time, beating Lamar Alexander is both worthwhile and achievable. Let’s get it done. http://www.carrfortn.com/
I think that Carr has been campaigning constantly. Either he or his campaign manager (I forget which) said that his time is taken up almost entirely with speaking and fundraising. However, I have some opinions about how he could have improved his campaigning:
1. While he has been campaigning basically non-stop, I usually hear about the campaign stops after the event, not before. That needs to be fixed.
2. He needed to make it easier for supporters to acquire bumper stickers and yard signs. I had to travel to the campaign headquarters in Murfreesboro to get mine. This hopefully has now been fixed. If you click on Volunteer on his website, you can now request these.
3. He needs to make friends with some conservative papers in the state. His name is mentioned seldom in news articles within the state. Perhaps part of that is the reluctance of some media outlets to do anything that might be interpreted as opposing Alexander.
Just some observations on my part.
If he is truly only 24 points behind in the polls, and most dont yet recognize his name, that margin could close a good bit in the coming weeks. That might cause some media outlets to devote more time to the race and raise his profile among voters. Hopefully.
What I find indicates TN is a open primary state. Not sure of exactly how it works.
In Texas one didn’t register by party and selected the party ballot in which you
wanted to vote when you went to the polls on primary day. So I was wondering how
it worked in TN. Thanks for your response.
“Hmmm... if the establishment candidate wanted to demoralize the Tea Party and had a large campaign chest. Why not set up a straw man Tea Party candidate and encourage him to not actively campaign. Have him make a little noise for free publicity sake and let the media destroy the Tea Party after the primary.”
But I can’t speak for the six unknown and unfunded candidates (they have reported raising $200 between the six of them!) who filed for the seat ....
I am petrified by past results in Indiana, Delaware & Missouri where sure to win republican senate seats were lost by nominating bad candidates.
I have worked at the polls a few times here in Tennessee. When a voter prepares to fill out the application for ballot, we ask “In which primary do you wish to vote?”, and there is a place for the voter to mark his or her choice. Once the primary has been selected, a machine operator prints an access code for the voter to take into the booth, and it brings up the primary that was selected.
“I am petrified by past results in Indiana, Delaware & Missouri where sure to win republican senate seats were lost by nominating bad candidates.”
Thanks. That is the process I was envisioning. You have to tell the poll workers which party you wish to vote in.
That is indeed good to hear. Thanks.
Lamar Alexander’s chief of staff killed himself after watching kiddie porn.
It was not Lamar’s fault, but it’s not like Lamar Alexander doesn’t have contraversy.
Lamar is as bad as Lindsey Graham.
Lamar is best friends with Chuck Schumer. He is just not as outspoken as Lindsey.
Really? That is a very sick person, with severe psychological problems.
The Tea Party candidates seem to be weak and underfunded. Everything they do is guaranteed to be mocked or ignored by the media. It would be great if some of the conservative talk show hosts championed Carr. Levin dislikes Alexander and Corker, but he doesn’t talk about Carr, a solid conservative Alexander challenger.
I don’t know why any of the well known conservative TN politicians didn’t challenge Alexander for the good of the country. Did he “pay” them all off early in some way? Marsha Blackburn is on Alexander’s reelection committee and that seems fishy. What a disgrace and disappointment she turned out to be. What happened to Ed Bryant? He seemed like a “solid” conservative, ran for Senate, lost and then disappeared.
I guess I’m a “purist” because I am tired of voting for these self serving political hacks.
I reside in Tennessee—which is a reliably Republican state—and I can attest that Sen. Alexander will easily win re-nomination, and then will easily win the general election.
No need to worry about the democrats in this case because
A)Carr is not an an O’Donnell type or a moron like Akin/Mourdock
B)The TN rat party is close to dead, there is no bench of rat candidates in the state, they don’t have a real candidate for the seat. Donnelly was as strong a rat candidate for Indiana as was available, McCaskil was an incumbent in MO, and Delaware is a liberal state where a conservative must run a perfect race to win.
Yes yes yes.
I’m not optimistic in SC though, not only does Cash have to contend with the unelectable (over Graham in the runoff) Lee Bright, but Nancy Mace and Bill O’Connor too.
Cash is living up to his name however, he has more of it than Bright, Mace, or any candidate other than Graham. I hope he’s turning that money into what he needs, name recognition.
Thanks for the update from TN situation. I am always for a good hard fought contest in primaries. If Carr is a good politician and more conservative than the incumbent, more power to him. But if Carr loses in primary, and if I was voting in TN, I would always pull the lever against the rat candidate.
Lugar would have won in Indiana against any rat is how I understand it from memory.
Delaware republican congressman running for senate was the least conservative of all senate candidates but he was popular in blue MD and was supposed to win in general.
Missouri was more of a toss up as you said. But Akin blew it big time.
TN doesn’t require a majority for a nomination, and people there are too stubborn to consider removing Lamar! from public life.
Lugar would have won yeah, Mourdock was a 2 time statewide winner though, there was a little reason to think he would blow the general election.
I literally can’t believe he was so stupid as to make comments similar to Todd Akin AFTER Akin made them and destroyed his campaign. It boggles the mind. That’s like being out in the woods with your friend, seeing him eat some poisoned berries that kill him, and then eating the same berries!
I admit I was an early backer of O’Donnell (before most of FR had heard of her), with Castle being so liberal as to barely register as a Republican, and the rat candidate being of the second-tier variety, I thought she could win in a Republican year. Attractive woman, potential star I thought. Of course I didn’t know about her bizarre past.
As for Akin, Clintonfatigued was one freeper who warned that he was a rube only used to running in safe Republican areas. Still he was far ahead in the polls until he stuck his foot in his mouth. 1 good media consultant could have stopped him from making that mistake. It’s sickening to think of Senate races turning on 1 statement. Think back to George Allen and “Macacca”.