Skip to comments.Two More Arrested over photo of Sen. Thad Cochran's wife
Posted on 05/22/2014 1:30:32 PM PDT by windcliff
Two more men have been arrested in connection with a bizarre alleged scheme to illegally photograph the elderly wife of Sen. Thad Cochrana scandal that already has shaken up the states Republican primary.
Mark Mayfield, a lawyer and board member of the Central Mississippi tea party, has been charged with conspiracy. And Richard Sager has been charged with tampering of evidence and conspiracy, reports Mississippis WLBT, citing a lawyer for political blogger Clayton Kelly.
Kelly, who is said to go by the nickname Constitutional Clayton, was charged Friday with breaking into a nursing home in order to photograph Cochrans wife, Rose, who has been a patient there since 2000. Rose Cochran is reportedly bedridden and suffering from dementia.
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Cochran machine’s dirty poltics, most likely.
These were stupid idiots.
Why would the vice chair of the Mississippi Tea party who has been actively campaigning for the opponent participate in a conspiracy to benefit McCochran?
There is a 4th suspect (including Clayton Kelly) who has been charged, but not arrested.
“2:45 p.m.: Third person charged today in the Rose Cochran video scandal is John Mary. Authorities have not confirmed he has been arrested, only charged. No other details are known.”
And the third person:
“Richard Sager of Laurel is the second person arrested today in relation to the Rose Cochran photo scandal.
Sager is a P.E. teacher at Mason Elementary School in Laurel. He’s also the assistant boys soccer coach for the high school. He served as the head soccer coach at Mississippi Delta Community College from 2002-06.”
There has been no explanation on how he is involved in the conspiracy.
“The vice chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party and one other suspect have been arrested in connection with the photographing of the bedridden wife of U.S. Sen. Thad Cochran.
Attorney Mark Mayfield, a vice chairman of the Mississippi Tea Party and an officer with the Central Mississippi Tea Party, was arrested Thursday by Madison police”
I have no idea why I typed McCochran.
Also forgot to cite the source for the info.
“Cochran machines dirty poltics, most likely.”
Huh? Why is this not Tea Party dirty tricks in this case? Breaking into a nursing home to photograph his wife? Looks ugly on both sides.
How do you twist it into a deed done to help Cochran?
The righteous outrage at such a deed helps the kin. In this case, the husband.
Then there’s this:
Right, but the background about Cochran and his wife is IMO more likely simply the motivation for the dirty tricksters to try and get the photo as a hit against Cochran.
That they got caught undeniably makes it backfire such that it hurts his challenger.
However, I’ve yet to see a shred of evidence that these purported McDaniel supporters were secretly Cochran supporters who developed a false cover via a blog and tea party membership, then orchestrated the deed in order to get caught.
That, to me, is rather far-fetched.
Explain the fact that the Cochran team waited two WEEKS after they got hold of the video before they approached the police.
And the fact that they only appeared to do so AFTER local news cycles started asking questions about Kay Webber and the fact that she’s be best paid ‘executive assistant’ on the hill and also lives at the same addy as Cochran.
Compounded with the poll that got done the middle of last week that showed McDaniel ahead of Cochran.
If YOUR loved one was taped and posted in such a manner would you wait two WEEKS to contact the local constabulary? Or more like 5 seconds?
The background about Cochran was already in the news cycle. This shenanigan took it out. Awfully convenient that...
Ok. It is all right for Senator Cochran to run around with another woman because his wife doesn’t even know who he is much less what he is doing. Or so I have read. Then this nut goes into a nursing home with apparently very lax security and takes a photo of a woman who does not even know he is there, and that is becoming a scandal to end all scandals? When was the last time Senator Cochran visited his wife in Madison? His “residence” in Mississippi is in Oxford which is hours away. Why is there no more information about this conspiracy? How did an elementary school teacher in Laurel take part in entry into a nursing home in Madison? What does the Jackson lawyer have to do with this conspiracy?
Speaking of Dale Danks, I used to think he was the best looking mayor ever. Lol. I think I had a photo taken with him when I was a senior in high school and he was mayor. He invited the top ten students from all the local public high schools to a ceremony at City Hall. It was all down hill from there for Jackson mayors. :(
Oh, one more thing. Explain this. Taking a picture of a little old lady in a nursing home is a violation of privacy. But using her as a campaign issue...isn’t...
BTW, this was hardly a ‘private’ nursing home she was in. Apparently she was in her room with the door open and anyone visiting any of the other patients there could look in and see her. Lots of people take lots of pictures in nursing homes. I haven’t seen a ‘cameras and photographs prohibited’ sign at any of the ones I’ve ever been in. And I’ve seen a lot of pics posted on facebook that were clearly shot in a nursing home with who knows who in the background of the intended photographed subjects.
Legal beagles in this area think the most they will ultimately get this guy on is a misdemeanor.
The fact that mayfield was served with a SWAT team is noted. I hope there isn’t any other more pressing crime in Madison...
And since, as the wife of a sitting senator, she was entitled to the same exact health care for the same exact illness as Ronald Reagan maybe you can explain to me why she was in a home 1000 miles away from her pefectly able spouse while he played house with his assistant. Nancy Reagan didn’t dump Ronny in a home 1000 miles away while she played house with someone else.
It was a foul thing to do.
Cochran probably had his consultants mulling whether the news once they went to the police would be favorable or not.
So are you really saying that Cochran’s dirty tricksters set this blogger up to pretend to be pro-McDaniel and then intentionally left the clues to be caught and discredited?
I did not say that.
I merely asked why they waited two WEEKS to bother to contact the cops and only did so AFTER the information about his ‘live in assistant’ came to light in the local news media...and after McDaniel began polling ahead of him.
Would you wait two WEEKS to report such a crime if it were your loved one?
Would how it affected your political campaign even be a question in your mind?
What kind of person weighs justice for their spouse on whether or not it will be beneficial or detrimental to their POLITICAL campaign?
BTW, his consultants didn’t even supposedly TELL him about the incident for several days. Who’s running the show in that campaign anyways.
Elder abuse - there just isn’t any way to make it look dignified.
Unless you think Cochran and his team orchestrated the whole thing, why and how and when he responded the way he did is somewhat beside the point.
Actually, no it isn’t.
If he were truly outraged why the wait?
If something you considered to be completely and totally awful happened to YOUR spouse, would you wait two WEEKS to report that and only after judging how it would affect your political career?
OK if so then BOTH sides were guilty of dirty tricks. Just because they are Tea Party they get no pass from me on breaking into a nursing home.
While those who ask why the Cochran campaign waited so long, the answer played out in a courtroom in Madison this afternoon. Conspiracy charges that require $250,000 bonds are not to be taken lightly, and law enforcement personnel had better have their ducks in a row before bringing such charges.
I know this answer will satisfy very few people with nooses in hand, but anyone who has been around courtrooms are familiar with the deliberate pace taken in such cases.
Clever sleight of hand.
It wasn’t the AUTHORITIES that waited two weeks to bring charges. That happened within a couple of days of having the information.
It was the Cochran campaign that waited two WEEKS to even ALERT the authorities.
Why’d they wait two + WEEKS to even contact the popo about the incident?
Why’d the campaign wait several days before they even told Thad about it?
Would you wait two WEEKS to contact the popo if it were YOUR spouse? Would you fire employees who waited even a millisecond to tell you about something like this, much less several days?
She’s been there 14 years?
Why am I not surprised with your response? Clairvoyance is a rare talent, but you seem to have it in spades.
So why did the Cochrans wait two WEEKS to bother to contact the authorities?
And then only after the story about Kay Webber became local news?
Because most people can’t understand that delay. Human beings would pick up the phone and call right away.
Who’s really running the campaign if they thought they had latitude to even avoid telling the husband about this immediately after it happened?
The dirty trick, as far as I know, was pulled by the other guys. Sure the timing was good to help the campaign, but the dirtiness started and, IMO, ended with the guys taking the photo and posting it online.
(And I hope Cochran loses to McDaniel.)
Just reading that link made me furious. What a horrible man. He’s tossed is wife aside as if she was a bag of trash.
I’d like to say more about him but this is family time on FR. :-).
I’m probably one of the few posters on this thread who actually votes in Mississippi. I have my opinions and am not shy about expressing them. I am not a fan of Sen McDaniel but if he wins in a fair and honorable way I will vote for him in the general election as I have done for more than fifty years. I have never failed to vote, and I have not voted for a democrat.
Having said that, it troubles me greatly to watch people eating their young while the real targets of our wrath should have (D)in front of their names, as in Pelosi and Reid.
I’ve heard all of the rhetoric before so I would just as soon not be corrupted by it.
Not voting for senator Amnesty Cochran no matter what.
If McDaniel did do this, not voting for him either, obviously.
We know Cochran is a horrible man by how he’s treated his own kin, wife and the mother of his children. McDaniel might be a horrible man, yet to be determined.
Politicians are like diapers, should be changed often and for the same reasons. 6 terms is 5 terms too many.
Have you been robo-polled as many times this week as we have?
I agree. I would not take anything for granted here, though, as far as who did it, and who was supposed to be made to look bad, etc.
But I can’t find any information as to how they did it. I’ll bet that at least one poor employee will get fired. Did they pose as visitors, doctors, repair people, what? Cable guys and people like that are supposed to have IDs. Because of medical privacy and also very real concerns about residents’ safety, most places aren’t just going tort anybody waltz into a nursing home and do what they want, especially with senile dementia residents.
I’ve never been to Mississippi, and don’t know anything about this race, but I will say that the position that the Cochrans are in is a very tough one and I believe McDaniel when he said that he didnt orchestrate it and his campaign didnt. Until you’ve walked a mile in his moccasins, most people aren’t going to go there with Cochran. This is why I think it might be somebody wanting to make tea party people look bad. I think that there have already been phony tea parties and tea partiers creating distractions.
Cochran campaign spokesman Jordan Russell said the Cochran camp learned about the video shortly after it was posted April 26 because they received text alerts or calls. He said Cochran hired an attorney, who investigated and gave information to police in Madison last Thursday.
One might legitimately call into question as to why he hired an attorney to investigate who then took several weeks to turn that information over to the police. OTOH, we dont know if the authorities were contacted sooner or what if anything they were actually doing about it. Generally speaking the local police arent so good at investigating things like someone posted a picture of my loved one in a nursing home on their Face Book page or You Tube account without my permission, etc. Try it sometime and let me know how that turns out for you. Im not saying this was the case but I can also see why he and his camping might get his attorney and or a private investigator involved. The nursing home might also have some liability if they allowed this to happen or looked the other way or if any of their employees were involved, so that might on that front turn out to also be a matter for a civil suit in which case getting an attorney involved would make sense and might be something I would do myself.
BTW, this was hardly a private nursing home she was in. Apparently she was in her room with the door open and anyone visiting any of the other patients there could look in and see her. Lots of people take lots of pictures in nursing homes. I havent seen a cameras and photographs prohibited sign at any of the ones Ive ever been in. And Ive seen a lot of pics posted on facebook that were clearly shot in a nursing home with who knows who in the background of the intended photographed subjects.
Thats not what happened here and you know it. Happening to walk by nursing home or a hospital room with the door open and happening to see the patient in that room or inadvertently catching someone in the background of a picture that you are taking of a loved one you are there to visit is vastly different from going to this nursing home and purposely taking pictures of one patient in particular, someone you dont know or have any connection to other than for the express purpose of taking and using those pictures to smear someone (whether they deserve a smearing or not) on a public forum like You Tube. Thats not cool. No way no how. It would be somewhat analogous to sneaking into political candidates childs school and taking pictures of their kindergartener in the bathroom and posting a video saying so and so is such a bad person and a bad parent that his child had an accident in his pants.
And FWIW, Ive over the years had family members and close friends in nursing homes and in hospice care and in ICU and, or at least all those Ive ever been to, you just dont walk in the front door and go in and out of patient rooms at will. At a minimum, you sign in and often have to tell someone at the desk who you are visiting, how you are related to them or know them, sign a visitors log, and sometimes even have to show a photo ID or even leave your ID at the front desk before being given a visitor badge and only get it back after turning in your visitors badge and signing back out.
How Cochran and his campaign handled the situation and whether or not they handled it they way any of us would or should have; that still does not negate what Clayton Kelly and the others involved in taking those pictures of Cochrans wife and posting it did before that. Two wrongs do not make a right. And perhaps what Cochran did after the fact was less than honorable and he used it to his advantage, that doesnt change what happened in the first place that shouldnt have happened. Cochrans wife certainly was and is in no position to agreeing to this and no moral or upstanding or right thinking person would sneak into a nursing home and take pictures of an invalid.
Hes tossed is wife aside as if she was a bag of trash.
We know Cochran is a horrible man by how hes treated his own kin, wife and the mother of his children. McDaniel might be a horrible man, yet to be determined.
Cochrans wife has been in a nursing home for, not for a few weeks or months but for some 14 years now, she is completely bedridden and has been for some time now, unable to speak or recognize anyone; she is the last stages of dementia or Alzheimers. Her husband could sit at her bedside 24-7 and it wouldnt make at bit of difference. She is being cared for and hasnt exactly been abandoned.
We can question the morality of Cochrans relationship with another woman, whether that is proper given that his wife is still technically alive and perhaps calling that relationship into question is fair game, but taking pictures of this poor invalid woman is quite beyond the pale. Attack Cochran on his voting record and attack him hard, but IMO neither side should be making his is wife a political pawn.
I think Ive figured it out. He posed as some sort of contractor who was also one of those people too poor to afford picture ID.
Do you vote in Mississippi?
What don’t you like about McDaniel?
(I’m from halfway across the country and hadn’t heard of him previously.)
“Her husband could sit at her bedside 24-7 and it wouldnt make at bit of difference. She is being cared for and hasnt exactly been abandoned.
It certainly does make a difference. The sound of a voice,or a touch,can be comforting. Even in the best of nursing homes the resident with regular family visits gets more attention.
No one expects this man to stay there 24 hours a day,but frequent,regular visits would be nice.
McDaniel was on Mark Levin today. Levin made a point of not asking him about this affair, instead they talked about Cochran’s position on amnesty and stuff.
About not going to the police? Not sure about that. Maybe they weren’t sure that it was a police matter. But I would have damn well read the riot act to the administrator and threatened to move Mrs Cochran elsewhere. Laws governing these places vary from state to state, but if she’s in such an advanced state of dementia it’s probably the type of place that falls under HIPPA. Places like that are supposed to put resident safety FIRST. I’m sorry to say that a lot of the violent crimes like rape against vulnerable people are perpetrated from in-house, such as nursing assistants, but still. That’s why I was curious how they got away with it. Who knows, maybe a fire exit was propped open or something. Still memory care type places are usually alarmed in case confused residents wander out.
Incorrecto. I said nothing about all Tea Party members. By both sides I was referring to this specific primary campaign - scum on both sides. Mark Mayfield was arrested and is reportedly the VP of the Mississippi Tea Party. Unlike some I won't mute criticism of someone if they just happen to belong to some group I like.
Interesting question. I’ll try to answer it. I have met McDaniel at a few party social events and he has spoken frequently in our county. I know some of his supporters much better than I know him.
One thing we do know that the Democrats don’t do is fight each other. The term RINO was cute for about a day when Rush(I believe) coined the phrase. The chorus became much louder when the democrats and the media were more than happy to support the conservative movements’ destruction of our own party. Our own derisive mantra dangerously weakened our party.
Back to McDaniel. In the 2010 race the Tea Party was born and they performed a great thing by becoming active and motivated to get out and vote the “rascals out.” We did well when the newly active voters came off the sidelines. Two years later the Tea Party became the cocky party and fielded several candidates who just couldn’t constrain themselves, so they became embarasments to themselves and the party. Opportunities were everywhere for ambitious activists to pick the low fruit, and a few of them were superb, and they got elected. Most didn’t. Which brings me to the question about McDaniel. I have found him arrogant, and cocky, and he portrays a certain inevitability that is not justified by his background. He is no Senator Cruz, nor Paul, nor Rubio, but he sees himself that way. He and his supporters continue to be derisive and destructive to the overall party and we can now see where that leads. He rolled in the outside money and had his own super bus with his ego splashed all over it, cocky and sure. The media played along, naturally.
If he is elected, and I seriously doubt that he will be, the media will turn on him immediately. They have always been smug about the south and particularly of Mississippi. We have some very good elected officials. Only one statewide elected democrat so we’re doing quite well, thank you.
These are my thoughts alone. Some of my friends, mostly young ones, support McDaniel zealously. I really don’t think they can see the possible negative results of his election.
As I stated earlier on another post, if he wins the primary, he’ll have my vote, because I know how important one vote can be. He will be sorely tainted no matter the outcome of the criminal charges floating around. I do not intend to support the Democrats in even the smallest way. They prove in a constant march forward that they will maintain their harmony.
A lot of wisdom there.
I don’t like the term RINO and don’t use it very often. The problem I see a lot is people pronouncing somebody a RINO on the basis of one position, one incident or one unfortunate comment. I see it on Twitter a d FR too. I prefer to look for patterns over long periods if time. Cochran probably has these, but he will probably win.
I have concluded that a big part of the problem is the Internet in general and social media in particular and talk radio too. Although these things accomplish a lot of good, you do have a bunch of people who need to find content every day and sometimes it’s manufactured drama or worse, as with these characters in MS.
I know people often say that the Democrats don’t do this, but I think they do, maybe less and in different ways. There’s no love lost between Obama and the Clintons, for example. I think Obamas motto may be “keep your friends close but your enemies closer.” The original birther was a disgruntled Hillary supporter. I think it was John Kerry who called Clinton “an unusually good liar.” I think that Howard Dean has lots of enemies. And of course it goes way back to the open dislike between LBJ and the Kenneedys.
Thank you. I don’t expect to see very many atta boys on this forum.
“And of course it goes way back to the open dislike between LBJ and the Kenneedys.”
I’m laughing at your last line realizing that I go back even farther than that. FDR was president when I was born and Ike was my commander in chief when I was in the Air Force. I have known two presidents and met a third and fourth. So, color me old.
He certainly doesn’t sound arrogant here, here sounds fantastic:
He points out that Cochran generally can’t find a spending bill he doesn’t support—but he twice voted against funding a border fence.
I think the tea party is fantastic and the Democrats don’t have anything near the RINO phenomenon which the GOP has. It is real and it is a killer for our country. No, the tea party isn’t perfect, but they’re not the only ones who have put up losing candidate types. McCain? Romney? Dole?
The GOPe and their old-school crony capitalism are major problems in the country, and it sounds to me like McDaniel would be one good improvement loosening their grip on the party and the country.
I can’t disagree with you about McCain, and Dole. I thought Romney would have made a good President.
I can’t disagree with you about McCain, and Dole. I thought Romney would have made a good President.
Maybe that’s because you (and others) didn’t know him like I did—having been in the MA GOP in his gubernatorial days.
It’s interesting how people form their opinions politically. For instance, President Nixon is one of the most reviled past presidents in history. Most of the press accounts about him and his presidency reinforce that impression. I think of him as a great president with personal flaws, something that is shared by us all. I knew President Nixon, and served briefly in his administration through an appointment by him to the Cost of Living Council. He also appointed me to the White House Council on the Ageing. I was in the Oval office with him on a couple of occasions and I saw a different person than one would expect from the historians. He had a sense of humor and was a very quick decision maker.