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Pope Francis Against Gay Adoption: ‘Every Person Needs a Male Father and a Female Mother
CNSNews.com ^ | May 21, 2014 | Michael W. Chapman

Posted on 05/22/2014 3:22:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o

...The Pope has rejected the idea of same-sex marriage as an “anthropological regression” and stressed that when it comes to adoption, “every person needs a male father and a female mother.”

Pope Francis explained his views on these hot-button issues in his book, On Heaven and Earth: Pope Francis on Faith, Family, and the Church in the Twenty-First Century, which he co-wrote with Rabbi Abraham Skorka in 2010 and which was republished after the then-Argentine cardinal was elected to the papacy in March 2013.

The book is a dialogue between Skorka and the future Pope and includes a chapter on same-sex marriage, which is where the pontiff also talks about adoption.

Skorka first explains that Judaism “prohibits sexual relations between two men” and then expresses worry about how a proposed gay-marriage law in Argentina could change “the core values of our society.”

Pope Francis (then-Cardinal Jorge Bergoglio) says, “I have the exact same opinion; in order to define it I would use the expression ‘anthropologic regression,’ a weakening of the [marriage] institution that is thousands of years old and that was forged according to nature and anthropology.”

“We know that in times of momentous change the homosexual phenomenon grew, but in this period it is the first time that the legal problem of assimilating it to marriage has arisen, and this I consider an anti-value and an anthropological regression,” says the Pope. “I say this because it transcends the religious issue, it is anthropological.”

“If there is a union of a private nature, there is neither a third party nor is society affected,” he writes. “Now, if the union is given the category of marriage and they are given adoption rights, there could be children affected.”

“Every person needs a male father and a female mother that can help them shape their identity,” says Pope Francis.

Explaining further, he says, “It is often argued that a child would be better cared for by a same-sex couple rather than in an orphanage or an institution. Those two situations are not optimal. The problem is that the State does not do what it has to do."

“They should streamline the procedure of adoption, which are never-ending, so that these children can have a home,” says the pontiff. “One failure of the State does not justify another failure of the State. The underlying issue must be addressed. More than a marriage law so that people of the same sex can adopt, we have to improve the adoption laws, which are excessively bureaucratic and, in their current implementation, encourage corruption.”


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: anthropology; catholic; corruption; homosexual; homosexualadoption; homosexualagenda; popefrancis
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As they were chanting on the streets in the Paris "Manif pour Tous" (Demonstration for All):

Un Pere,
Une Mere,
C'est elementaire!!"

One father,
One mother,
It's elementary!

1 posted on 05/22/2014 3:22:52 PM PDT by Mrs. Don-o
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To: Mrs. Don-o

How sad this even needs to be said. Pope Francis is on solid Biblical footing here and WE ALL need to defend him whenever and where ever he is criticized.

And you know the homosexual thugs will sharpen up their long knives, along with their enablers in the msm.


2 posted on 05/22/2014 3:29:33 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: All

Male Father and female mother? So when are priests going to be allowed to marry? If they want to be known as “Father” then they should recognize their role/duty.


3 posted on 05/22/2014 3:37:35 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Mrs. Don-o
“It is often argued that a child would be better cared for by a same-sex couple rather than in an orphanage or an institution.

Even if these were the only choices, it would still be better for a child to be in a properly-run institution than exposed to perversion.

However, this is a false dichotomy. In societies in which adoption is a normal occurrence and organized foster-parent programs exist, normal families are available for the majority of children. It is the government which imposes false barriers, such as racial matching or excessive economic demands.

It is better for a child to live in relative poverty - sharing a room with several siblings, like at my house - in a normal family, than to have every economic advantage but lack a married mother and father.

4 posted on 05/22/2014 3:42:40 PM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o
It's so obvious only the deviant could argue with that. That's the way God made us.
5 posted on 05/22/2014 3:44:19 PM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Don’t you love the way his holiness teases the libs. One moment he’s talking of income inequalty and the left goes, yeah, yeah, yeah. Then he pulls the rug from under them when he reiterates that marriage should be between a man and woman and children should be raised by a mother and a father. Before Pope Francis reign ends the libs are gonna go schizophrenic.


6 posted on 05/22/2014 4:00:32 PM PDT by dowcaet
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To: BipolarBob
If they want to be known as “Father” then they should recognize their role/duty.

Did Jesus not call God "Father"?

When did God get married? Or does He not recognize His role/duty?!?

That being said, I think priests should be able to marry. Or not marry. But whatever the case, they should be men, in every moral sense of the word.

(Caveat: I'm not Catholic anymore, so take all of the above with a grain of salt.)

7 posted on 05/22/2014 4:00:58 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Mrs. Don-o

How long before the left turns on the Pope?


8 posted on 05/22/2014 4:01:07 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: dowcaet
Before Pope Francis reign ends the libs are gonna go schizophrenic.

The problem is that with his widely varying words, it isn't just the libs in the Church that Francis is affecting.

My Christ said "Let your 'yes' be yes, your 'no' be no."

If Francis is going to act as the holder of the keys to Heaven, he should learn to love this lesson Christ gave us.

9 posted on 05/22/2014 4:03:39 PM PDT by Yossarian
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To: Mrs. Don-o

You don’t need a biology degree to work out that kids need a mother and a father.


10 posted on 05/22/2014 4:05:53 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Children Raised in the Intact Biological Family Fare Better by the Vast Majority of Objective Measures

11 posted on 05/22/2014 4:11:57 PM PDT by CharlesOConnell (CharlesOConnell)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

Pope Francis is not who some believe and hope that he is.


12 posted on 05/22/2014 4:14:05 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: Tax-chick

Normal = conforming to norms.


13 posted on 05/22/2014 4:29:01 PM PDT by Lisbon1940
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To: MichaelCorleone
How sad this even needs to be said. No kidding. Lately, I've heard otherwise intelligent people saying that its wrong to talk definitively about gender and how men or women "ought to be". Absolute madness--this will not end well.
14 posted on 05/22/2014 5:03:50 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: MichaelCorleone
Ooops. All the left wing einsteins in the media who gushed over a Pope they thought was "modern" are now weeping and gnashing their teeth.
15 posted on 05/22/2014 5:05:50 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BipolarBob
A rather stupid and ignorant statement. Sorry Bob, back on the Depakote for you.
16 posted on 05/22/2014 5:07:01 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: MichaelCorleone
How sad this even needs to be said.

No kidding. Lately, I've heard otherwise intelligent people saying that its wrong to talk definitively about gender and how men or women "ought to be". Absolute madness--this will not end well.

17 posted on 05/22/2014 5:07:43 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: Tax-chick
Orphanages and "institutions" are not what the usual ignoramus thinks they are. The uninformed pictures David Copperfield, when the truth is far more humane and indeed salutary compared to a string of half-assed county foster parents and/or a couple of homosexuals bent on doing who knows what.
18 posted on 05/22/2014 5:09:40 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: BipolarBob
when are priests going to be allowed to marry? If they want to be known as “Father” then they should recognize their role/duty.

That would certainly rout out the queers, now wouldn't it.

19 posted on 05/22/2014 5:13:26 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Yossarian
God is unique in His role as Creator. He is ,in a sense, Father of everything.
My point is the irony of the Pope urging the importance of the father/mother relationship but denies it in his own "club". I would think it hypocritical but I'm not Catholic so take it with a grain of salt as well.
20 posted on 05/22/2014 5:14:53 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: BipolarBob

I guess you’re not Catholic?


21 posted on 05/22/2014 5:15:32 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER
That would certainly rout out the queers, now wouldn't it.

Yes, not very tolerant, inclusive or PC of him. So I agree with his statement.

22 posted on 05/22/2014 5:16:37 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: trisham

I guess I am not as well.


23 posted on 05/22/2014 5:20:05 PM PDT by BipolarBob
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To: Mrs. Don-o

24 posted on 05/22/2014 5:20:20 PM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: BipolarBob

:)


25 posted on 05/22/2014 5:20:52 PM PDT by trisham (Zen is not easy. It takes effort to attain nothingness. And then what do you have? Bupkis.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

Why would being allowed to marry ‘rout out the queers’?

It did not help the Episcopalians, did it. Gene Robinson left his wife and married his gay lover - now he is divorcing his male/husband.

Plenty of gays in the teaching profession and what about the Penn State homosexual deviate who was with the Penn State football faculty - Jerry Sandusky!

Because all the cases of sexual abuse among priests came to a head seemingly all at once, the very enormity of it all gave folks the idea that all priests are prone to being deviates. In fact, the percentage of priests who were involved in these cases is quite small.


26 posted on 05/22/2014 5:52:16 PM PDT by Gumdrop (~)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

“That would certainly rout out the queers, now wouldn’t it.”

Yeah, nary a poofter amongst the Anglican clergy these days.

Freegards


27 posted on 05/22/2014 5:55:40 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: I want the USA back

How long before the left demands that the Pope resign?


28 posted on 05/22/2014 5:57:17 PM PDT by virgil (The evil that men do lives after them)
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To: Tax-chick

It is better for a child to live in relative poverty - sharing a room with several siblings, like at my house - in a normal family, than to have every economic advantage but lack a married mother and father.

**
Exactly.

BTW, I come from a family of 11. We kids shared rooms, and we did not live in poverty. And when I was growing up, we had one bathroom until we moved when I was 12, and I am just one under the middle child.

Great times. Sharing a room with my next youngest sister gave us lots of quality time together.

Big families are great and teach kids how to get along in society.


29 posted on 05/22/2014 6:01:57 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Gumdrop

Just ask any liberal pro-abort, pro ‘gay marriage,’ priestess wanting Catholic if they would like to keep the discipline of celibacy around. Or just ask a lib of ANY faith about the Latin rite discipline of celibacy. I mean come on, they absolutely hate it.

Freegards


30 posted on 05/22/2014 6:03:25 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: trisham

Or who some others fear that he is.


31 posted on 05/22/2014 6:10:11 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: ROCKLOBSTER

With all due respect, it seems to have been less than universally effective at that for Protestants. And I say that having been one up until last month.


32 posted on 05/22/2014 6:15:16 PM PDT by RichInOC (...your newest purveyor of wit, laughter and the Popish creed.)
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To: MichaelCorleone
... Pope Francis is on solid Biblical footing ...
And incidentally also on solid natural footing.

Within living memory, knowing degeneracy when you see it wasn't a peculiarly religious position.

33 posted on 05/22/2014 6:48:58 PM PDT by Salman
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To: MichaelCorleone

My first thought.....this is news? This needs to be said? We have come a long way, down.


34 posted on 05/22/2014 7:11:40 PM PDT by JudyinCanada
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To: Gumdrop
Why would being allowed to marry ‘rout out the queers’?...

It did not help the Episcopalians, did it. Gene Robinson left his wife and married his gay lover - now he is divorcing his male/husband.

Well, he's "routed out" ain't he?

35 posted on 05/22/2014 8:44:31 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: Ransomed
nary a poofter amongst the Anglican clergy these days.

Yeah, but are they married, respectable husbands and fathers?...Or run of the mill packers?

I'm bettin' they're not in disguise, but rather typical unrepentant perverts just tying to drag down the church.

36 posted on 05/22/2014 8:49:29 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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To: RichInOC
With all due respect, it seems to have been less than universally effective at that for Protestants.

Well once the clergy's wives figure it out, they probably aren't able to keep it a secret for long. My point was the boy-raping "priests" were able to hide their queerness under the cloak of celibacy...none of them are married.

I think we can figure out pretty quickly who the Protestant fake clergy are. The problem is the wish-washy sects that allows them to continue serving in the church....especially with boys around.

37 posted on 05/22/2014 9:04:01 PM PDT by ROCKLOBSTER (Celebrate "Republicans Freed the Slaves" Month.)
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“Yeah, but are they married, respectable husbands and fathers?...Or run of the mill packers?”

The men who are supposed to keep the gays out because of their matrimonial state or the gays who are supposed to be kept out because clergy can marry?

“I’m bettin’ they’re not in disguise, but rather typical unrepentant perverts just tying to drag down the church.”

You would win that bet. Of course they are not in disguise, they are celebrated and promoted. So they don’t have to be disguised. Yet it is possible for male Anglican clergy to marry women, which isn’t seeming to put a damper on things.

Do you find it strange that every liberal of every faith invariably wants the Catholic Church to stop the discipline of celibacy? I do. You would think there would be a few out there that are all for it somehow.

Freegards


38 posted on 05/22/2014 9:07:39 PM PDT by Ransomed
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To: BipolarBob

So, St. Paul was a hypocrite. The Pope is in favor of priests, bishops, monks, and nuns each having a mother and a father. Where is the hypocrisy?


39 posted on 05/22/2014 9:18:38 PM PDT by RPTMS (I know you're a nincompoop, and I strongly suspect you of being a scalawag!)
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To: Bigg Red
We kids shared rooms, and we did not live in poverty.

That's why I said "relative poverty."

40 posted on 05/23/2014 2:15:51 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: BipolarBob
Vowed celibates --- single for the Kingdom --- see themselves as walking on the same path as St. Paul and Our Lord Himself --- these, anyway, are their role models.

I assume that, as you want to be recognized as "Bipolar," you're filling your role accordingly.

41 posted on 05/23/2014 2:42:20 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To err is human, but to really screw up requires digital technology.)
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Men who choose to be priests have made their choice. You don’t take a vow unless you’ve made a choice.


42 posted on 05/23/2014 2:44:14 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To err is human, but to really screw up requires digital technology.)
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To: I want the USA back

3...2....1


43 posted on 05/23/2014 2:44:43 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (To err is human, but to really screw up requires digital technology.)
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To: CharlesOConnell

Thanks for the great graphic.

Remember the Pope said Gay marriage is...(tagline)


44 posted on 05/23/2014 2:46:57 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Gay marriage: "A machination of the Father of Lies to deceive the children of God." - Pope Francis)
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To: BipolarBob; Yossarian
The Pope isn't "denying" anybody marriage. Nobody is required to take a vow of celibacy. Anybody who does take that vow, has that choice.

Why does it bother you that a man or woman can choose celibacy?

45 posted on 05/23/2014 2:50:58 AM PDT by Mrs. Don-o (Gay marriage: "A machination of the Father of Lies to deceive the children of God." - Pope Francis)
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To: hinckley buzzard
Orphanages and "institutions" are not what the usual ignoramus thinks they are.

In some countries they are; that's why I said "well-run." I read an interesting article recently about an organization that is promoting domestic adoption in Romania. It said that a very large percentage of "orphans" (often abandoned children, really) in Romania are Gypsies.

46 posted on 05/23/2014 4:25:08 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: Mrs. Don-o

I agree that having a mother and a father is best.

But I think adoption by a capable and loving single parent is generally better than orhpanhood or abortion. Even if the adoptive parent is homosexual, and has a partner in the same home.


47 posted on 05/23/2014 4:55:32 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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To: Freeping Since 2001

You’re raising a false contradiction. Babies are aborted even though there are adoptive families available. They’re abandoned to die even though there are adoptive families available. Children are placed with single people and with homosexuals, even though there are married couples waiting to adopt.

It is a conscious choice on the part of the authorities to place children in what are known to be, in the aggregate, less successful family situations.


48 posted on 05/23/2014 5:03:32 AM PDT by Tax-chick (You say I'm insane ... I say you're afraid.)
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To: Tax-chick

:) Don’t worry, I know that your children aren’t in the welfare line.

What I meant was that, while we were not wealthy, we were pretty well off, yet we did not expect our own rooms. Many parents today feel compelled to provide each child with his own room. My opinion is that sharing a room brings about a lot of social learning for kids.


49 posted on 05/23/2014 5:30:34 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: Tax-chick

I assume all you say is true, and have no disagreement. I stand by what I said, and mean no more than what I said.

I do suspect that there is a surplus of adoptable third-world babies that aren’t being denied to married (man and woman) couples.


50 posted on 05/23/2014 5:33:17 AM PDT by Freeping Since 2001 (Since 2001. Seriously.)
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