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One of the White House’s First Responses During the Benghazi Attack: Call YouTube
PJ Media ^ | 5/22/14 | Bryan Preston

Posted on 05/22/2014 5:32:59 PM PDT by Nachum

While Ambassador Chris Stevens was missing on September 11, 2012, and while Tyrone Woods, Sean Smith and Glen Doherty were fighting for their lives, with military assets within a quick flight to provide aid, the Obama White House decided to call…YouTube. A still-classified State Department e-mail says that one of the first responses from the White House to the Benghazi attack was to contact YouTube to warn of the “ramifications” of allowing the posting of an anti-Islamic video, according to Rep. Darrell Issa, the Republican chairman of the House Oversight and Government Reform Committee. The memo suggests that even as

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1 posted on 05/22/2014 5:32:59 PM PDT by Nachum
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To: Jet Jaguar; NorwegianViking; ExTexasRedhead; HollyB; FromLori; EricTheRed_VocalMinority; ...

The list, Ping

Let me know if you would like to be on or off the ping list

http://www.nachumlist.com/


2 posted on 05/22/2014 5:33:18 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Impeach. Arrest. Indict. Convict. Sentence. Blindfold. Cigarette.


3 posted on 05/22/2014 5:35:39 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: dainbramaged

Criminal asses.


4 posted on 05/22/2014 5:36:31 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Nachum

It seems clearer and clearer they had this video excuse all ready to go if they needed it, and they shot it off at the first sign of PR trouble.


5 posted on 05/22/2014 5:37:44 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Nachum

Who is Pastor Jon?


6 posted on 05/22/2014 5:37:47 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: Nachum
Craven Bastards! May they all burn in Hell!



America demands Justice for the Fallen of Benghazi!

O stranger, tell the Lacedaemonians that we lie here, obedient to their command.

Listen, O isles, unto me; and hearken, ye people, from far; The LORD hath called me from the womb; from the bowels of my mother hath he made mention of my name. (Isaiah 49:1 KJV)

7 posted on 05/22/2014 5:40:08 PM PDT by ConorMacNessa (HM/2 USN, 3/5 Marines RVN 1969 - St. Mlichael the Archangel defend us in Battle!)
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To: Nachum

Very classy!

Abandon the young warriors on the rooftops, and the old ones in the hospital wards.

Call YouTube, huh?

Classy.


8 posted on 05/22/2014 5:41:19 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Nachum

I despise these people. They had this excuse ready to go before 9/11. If unrest or an attack occurred, blame the video.

I’ll bet half the hits on that video, BEFORE THE ATTACK EVEN OCCURED, were from Washington DC.

Completely disgusting.


9 posted on 05/22/2014 5:41:31 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Pearls Before Swine

Has it been established that there was an actual video at all??


10 posted on 05/22/2014 5:42:06 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: gaijin

Classy.

and deadly.


11 posted on 05/22/2014 5:42:18 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Sacajaweau

I read somewhere that the video had less than 2000 hits before it was pulled.


12 posted on 05/22/2014 5:43:40 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Nachum

Something about Bengazi is still gnawing away at me:

The roof SEALs had been using a target designator, right? Doing that boosts risk against the operator —if properly equipped the enemy can see the beam. SEALs know that, so they had to at least to have been led to BELIEVE there was fire-support available or inbound —it’s very dubious they’d wave that thing around for fun in a firefight...

If GayMuzzie’s guys had SOME REASON to want the Bengazi resistance to suddenly stop, then it would be logical for top leadership do what they could to induce the SEALs to disclose their positions —to radio, “OK the zoomies are inbound so paint your targets for them...”

Then the originally planned path for abducting Stevens for subsequent swap would finally be CLEARED (by the muzzie mortar team).

THIS IS JUST A THEORY TO CONSIDER.

Maybe there was *more* than just an election-centric rescue failure.


13 posted on 05/22/2014 5:43:42 PM PDT by gaijin
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To: Nachum

Just how in the world does one call YT? Do they have a red phone from the WH?????


14 posted on 05/22/2014 5:44:23 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: Bryan24

When I saw it....just over 300 hits.


15 posted on 05/22/2014 5:45:12 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: don-o

Put “pastor + Bengauzi “ I. Search.
Only two things popped up
This is one( don’t know why it’s connected). Other didn’t seem relevant

http://endrtimes.blogspot.com/2012/10/how-us-ambassador-chris-stevens-may.html?m=1


16 posted on 05/22/2014 5:46:30 PM PDT by hoosiermama (Obama: "Born in Kenya" Lying now or then or now)
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To: gaijin

I have a feeling that the truth, if it ever comes out, is going to be so bald-faced insidious that it will cast Obama and his entire administration in shame as the most inept, corrupt administration to ever occupy the White House.

Men died because Obama is incompetent.


17 posted on 05/22/2014 5:51:04 PM PDT by rarestia (It's time to water the Tree of Liberty.)
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To: Nachum

Next calls went out to MSNBC, Pizza Hut Delivery, and the Andres Air Force Base Golf Course.


18 posted on 05/22/2014 5:58:52 PM PDT by bigbob (The best way to get a bad law repealed is to enforce it strictly. Abraham Lincoln)
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To: Bryan24
Something doesn't fit here.

If the attack was made because of the video, why are they attacking the video instead of squelching the violence.

19 posted on 05/22/2014 6:00:32 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: Sacajaweau

Yeah, there was some lame anti-Muslim video. But so what? Hardly anyone had seen it when the government started blaming it for the Egyptian riots and Benghazi.


20 posted on 05/22/2014 6:03:25 PM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: Pearls Before Swine
I went to wiki but they won't give real dates for the film...and that attack in Benghazi was a well planned attack.

It wasn't off the cuff like the WH said.

Am wondering if WH computer geeks inserted the memo...or altered it.....or redated it. Geeks can do anythong.

Mr. Snowden...help us out. We need some truth.

21 posted on 05/22/2014 6:08:20 PM PDT by Sacajaweau
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To: rarestia

Good men died because Obama has other priorities.
He headed off to a fundraiser the next day.
The POTUS doesn’t just hop up and get on a plane.
A lot of planning and logistics to into a presidential trip.
None of that was suspended. Add to all this, the survivors of the attack still haven’t been heard from.

They don’t want any of the truth to come out on this and will do anything to make sure that it stays that way.


22 posted on 05/22/2014 6:09:43 PM PDT by Texas resident (The democrat party is now the CPUSA)
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To: Sacajaweau

How can a video, produced in the US, have probably less than 300 hits worldwide, spark multi-city protests in Africa?

How can the White House know about an obscure internet video with less than 300 hits, and figure out THAT is what is sparking protests in Africa?

This FLUNKS the smell test. BADLY.


23 posted on 05/22/2014 6:11:40 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

“I despise these people. They had this excuse ready to go before 9/11. If unrest or an attack occurred, blame the video.”

Did you ever bother to consider the possibility they planned the attack and the protest over the video causing the attack was a cover story?


24 posted on 05/22/2014 6:16:47 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

No, I have not gone that far. You are talking Murder 1 and Treason.

I think they were running weapons out of Benghazi to Al Queda in Syria.


25 posted on 05/22/2014 6:24:38 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Nachum

This smells like Hillary Clinton.


26 posted on 05/22/2014 6:24:44 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: Aria
This smells like Hillary Clinton.

It smells all right.

27 posted on 05/22/2014 6:25:26 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Bryan24

“No, I have not gone that far”

Then you better go that far.

Hillary started her talking points about the video before anything had happened.

BTW, if they are chummy enough with al Qaida to send them weapons then they are chummy enough with al Qaida to get al Qaida to attack and take the weapons and provide themselves with a cover story as to how al Qaida got the weapons.


28 posted on 05/22/2014 6:35:07 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: IMR 4350

Those 35 or so rescuees that the State Department won’t let be interviewed might shed some light on that.

If what you are purporting turns out to be true, everyone involved should be executed, including the president.


29 posted on 05/22/2014 6:42:20 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Nachum

Maybe they were checking to see if the movie excuse had been posted.... Getting lies in place is important for democrats...


30 posted on 05/22/2014 6:55:55 PM PDT by GOPJ (If dems will "death panel" our vets they'll damn sure death panel the rest of us...)
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To: dainbramaged

Barky’s quick response to a terrorist attack, call uTube. Well that calms my fears as to our nation’s national security issues.


31 posted on 05/22/2014 6:59:16 PM PDT by RicocheT (It ainÂ’t a party Â’til the dogs are eating the corpses in the street.)
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To: gaijin
gaijin: "The roof SEALs had been using a target designator, right? Doing that boosts risk against the operator —if properly equipped the enemy can see the beam.
SEALs know that, so they had to at least to have been led to BELIEVE there was fire-support available or inbound —
it’s very dubious they’d wave that thing around for fun in a firefight..."

The day after the attack , Victoria Neuland said that 'we could see what was happening, almost in real time'.
That would suggest that there was a drone overhead.
It was later verified by Panetta that there was an "unarmed" drone in the area.
Has that ever been verified ?

gaijin: " If GayMuzzie’s guys had SOME REASON to want the Bengazi resistance to suddenly stop,
then it would be logical for top leadership do what they could to induce the SEALs to disclose their positions —
to radio, “OK the zoomies are inbound so paint your targets for them...”

That would assume that they had FILR , or some sophisticated system available to them to sight the 'spotters'.
If this was all about arming jihadists/ Mooselimb Buddyhood, this is not outside of the realm of likliehood.

Never before has a Commander-in-Chief left troops in harms way without an attempt to rescue them.
Incidently , where are the other approximately 30 other "State Department Employees" who were rescued that night ?
The 30 STATE DEPT. employees rescued have been sequestered ,no questions by inquiry, no statements given , ..FOR A REASON !!
I want to know why they havent been questioned !!

32 posted on 05/22/2014 7:09:29 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: IMR 4350

Ding ding ding. We have a winner!


33 posted on 05/22/2014 7:11:04 PM PDT by Reddy (bo stinks)
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To: Sacajaweau
Has it been established that there was an actual video at all??

Yes. This article (from Sept 12, 2012) has info about the movie. Note: the you Tube link in the article does not work.

34 posted on 05/22/2014 7:12:19 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Bryan24

There’s an al Qaida doc recovered in Afghanistan.

It’s a letter from Osama bin Laden to Mullah Omar.

It was listed as doc # AFGP-2002-600321 in what was the CTC at West Point’s Harmony Database.

That doc is as close to the terrorist playbook as you will ever get your hands on, but it’s not the playbook for the terrorist overseas.

It’s the playbook for the people in this country the terrorist are working for. The people responsible for making the PREPARATIONS for the attacks.

I’m sorry, did I say PREPARATIONS for the attacks?

There can’t possibly be preparations for the attacks, we learned from Benghazi the attacks are “spontaneous” now haven’t we.

In the doc OBL makes the statement to the affect “the media (meaning news) is 90% of the preparation for the battle”.

Our little lefty friends in the news media, at the direction of Hillary Clinton, have been orchestrating news stories for the attacks then following up with the spin of the news after the attacks.

The first time they tried to use a version of the “spontaneous” lie was the 1st WTC bombing in 1993 when the news media pushed and pushed to get Bush to send troops into Somalia, then after the WTC bombing claimed the bombing was a “spontaneous” response to Bush sending troops into Somalia.

In January 2006, the ACLU with the help of al Jazeera, Osama bin Laden putting out a tape, and the MSM again tried to concoct a version of the “spontaneous” lie.

Obama tried to concoct a version of the spontaneous lie with the airline plot in 2012 just a few months before Benghazi, but the AP screwed up his attempt when they released information in their story before Obama could come out with his story.

The AP released info that the terrorist had given the govt agent the bomb then told him it was his call as to the TIMING of the attack.

Obama sent people to Florida to orchestrate protest in the streets over Trayvon Martin, then Obama intended to announce the terrorist had planned the attack on the plane as if the terrorist had picked up on the protest in the news and “spontaneously” planned the attack.

The AP letting it be known the govt agent had been holding the bomb and it was his call as to the timing of the attack screwed it up.

Obama controlled both ends, the protest and the timing as to when to announce the planned attack.

Treason, mass murder, waging war against the US, take your pick it’s all there.


35 posted on 05/22/2014 7:32:05 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Reddy

There is no way around it, Hillary and Obama planned the attack.


36 posted on 05/22/2014 7:34:27 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Nachum

As I said, Benghazi is simply Chappaquiddick on a geo political level. Instead of trying to save Ambassador Stevens (who may have been Obama’s partner sort of like Mary jo Kopechne was Ted Kennedy’s partner), the Obama administration’s first response was saving their political skins. The late Edward Kennedy gave his first priority to saving his political skin and the guy he endorsed, Barack Hussein Obama, is doing the same thing on an international level.


37 posted on 05/22/2014 7:46:23 PM PDT by Stepan12
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To: Nachum; All

Who in the White House gave the order to call U-Tube, and why did they plant the false story of a Video?


38 posted on 05/22/2014 7:48:20 PM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: Graewoulf

Who? That is the $64,000 question.

“Why” is an easier one to surmise. They did not want the real reason found out.


39 posted on 05/22/2014 7:49:36 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum

Colonel Phil “Hands” Handley is credited with the highest speed air-to-air gun kill in the history of aerial combat. He flew operationally for all but 11 months of a 26-year career, in aircraft such as the F-86 Sabre, F-15 Eagle, and the C-130A Hercules. Additionally, he flew 275 combat missions during two tours in Southeast Asia in the F-4D and F-4E. His awards include 21 Air Medals, 3 Distinguished Flying Crosses, and the Silver Star.

Here is what Col. Handley wrote in response to Panetta and Dempsey’s claims there was no time to send help to Benghazi


Betrayal in Benghazi
Phil “Hands” Handley Colonel, USAF (Ret.)
The combat code of the US Military is that we don’t abandon our dead or wounded on the battlefield. In US Air Force lingo, fighter pilots don’t run off and leave their wingmen. If one of our own is shot down, still alive and not yet in enemy captivity, we will either come to get him or die trying.

Among America ‘s fighting forces, the calm, sure knowledge that such an irrevocable bond exists is priceless. Along with individual faith and personal grit, it is a sacred trust that has often sustained hope in the face of terribly long odds.

The disgraceful abandonment of our Ambassador and those brave ex-SEAL’s who fought to their deaths to save others in that compound is nothing short of dereliction-of-duty.
Additionally, the patently absurd cover-up scenario that was fabricated in the aftermath was an outright lie in an attempt to shield the President and the Secretary of State from responsibility. The White House strategy, with the aid of a “lap dog” press has been to run out the clock before the truth is forthcoming.

The contention “that there were simply no military assets that could be brought to bear in time to make a difference” mainly due to the unavailability of tanker support for fighter aircraft is simply Bull Chit, regardless how many supposed “experts” the Administration trots out to make such an assertion.
The bottom line is that even if the closest asset capable of response was half-way around the world, you don’t just sit on your penguin ass and do nothing.
The fact is that the closest asset was not half-way around the world, but as near as Aviano Air Base, Italy where two squadrons of F-16Cs are based.
Consider the following scenario (all times Benghazi local): When Hicks in Tripoli receives a call at 9:40 PM from Ambassador Stevens informing him “Greg, we are under attack!” (his last words). Hicks immediately notifies all agencies and prepares for the immediate initiation of an existing “Emergency Response Plan.”

At AFRICON, General Carter Ham attempts to mount a rescue effort, but is told to “stand down”. By 10:30 PM an unarmed drone is overhead the compound and streaming live feed to various “Command and Control Agencies” so everyone watching that feed knew damn well what was going
At 11:30 PM Woods, Doherty and five others leave Tripoli, arriving in Benghazi at 1:30 AM on Wednesday morning, where they hold off the attacking mob from the roof of the compound until they are killed by a mortar direct hit at 4:00 AM.

So nothing could have been done, eh? Nonsense. If one assumes that tanker support really “was not available” what about this:
When at 10:00 PM AFRICON alerts the 31st TFW Command Post in Aviano Air Base, Italy of the attack, the Wing Commander orders preparation for the launch of two F-16s and advises the Command Post at NAS Sigonella to prepare for hot pit refueling and quick turn of the jets.

By 11:30 PM, two F-16Cs with drop tanks and each armed with five hundred 20 MM rounds are airborne. Flying at 0.92 mach they will cover the 522 nautical miles directly to NAS Sigonella in 1.08 hours. While in-route, the flight lead is informed of the tactical situation, rules of engagement, and radio frequencies to use.

The jets depart Sigonella at 1:10 AM with full fuel load and cover the 377 nautical miles directly to Benghazi in 0.8 hours, arriving at 1:50 AM which would be 20 minutes after the arrival of Woods, Doherty and their team.

Providing that the two F-16s initial pass over the mob, in full afterburner at 200 feet and 550 knots did not stop the attack in its tracks, a few well placed strafing runs on targets of opportunity would assuredly do the trick.

Were the F-16s fuel state insufficient to return to Sigonelli after jettisoning their external drop tanks, they could easily do so at Tripoli International Airport , only one-half hour away.

As for those hand-wringing naysayers who would worry about IFR clearances, border crossing authority, collateral damage, landing rights, political correctness and dozens of other reasons not to act — screw them. It is time our “leadership” get its priorities straight and put America’s interests first.

The end result would be that Woods and Doherty would be alive. Dozens in the attacking rabble would be rendezvousing with “72 virgins” and a clear message would have been sent to the next worthless P.O.S. terrorist contemplating an attack on Americans that it is not really a good idea to “tug” on Superman’s cape.

Of course all this depends upon a Commander In Chief more concerned with saving the lives of those he put in harm’s way than getting his crew rested for a campaign fund raising event in Las Vegas the next day. It also depends upon a Secretary of State who actually understood “What difference did it make?”, and a Secretary of Defense who was watching the feed from the drone and understood what the attack consisted of instead of making an immediate response that “One of the military tenants is that you don’t commit assets until you fully understand the tactical situation.”

YGBSM!( You Gotta Be Chittin’ Me)
Ultimately it comes down to the question of who gave that order to stand down? Whoever that coward turns out to be should be exposed, removed from office, and face criminal charges for dereliction of duty. The combat forces of the United States of America deserve leadership that really does “have their back” when the chips are down.

FOR THOSE OF YOU HAVE ACTUALLY TAKEN THE TIME TO READ THIS, DO ONE THING FOR ME AND FORWARD IT TO EVERYONE YOU KNOW!! TO AVOID THIS HAPPENING AGAIN, WHOMEVER GAVE THE “STAND DOWN” ORDER NEEDS TO BE EXPOSED!


40 posted on 05/22/2014 8:07:09 PM PDT by Dick Bachert (Ignorance is NOT BLISS. It is the ROAD TO SERFDOM! We're on a ROAD TRIP!!)
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To: IMR 4350

Pelosi’s dems will look like idiots trying to keep all this from coming out. When does it start? I can’t wait.


41 posted on 05/22/2014 8:15:56 PM PDT by dandiegirl
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To: Tilted Irish Kilt; Bryan24
The 30 STATE DEPT. employees rescued have been sequestered ,no questions by inquiry, no statements given , ..FOR A REASON !! I want to know why they haven't been questioned !!

Those 35 or so rescuees that the State Department won’t let be interviewed might shed some light on that.

Hey Trey Gowdy,where are they?

42 posted on 05/22/2014 8:32:09 PM PDT by Art in Idaho (Conservatism is the only Hope for Western Civilization.)
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To: dandiegirl

Problem for all of us is what happens when the rest of the world finds out the US in affect has attacked itself and started a war they have been shedding their blood and wealth on.

The US wont have an ally in the world. We can’t be trusted. We’ll be completely alone. We’ll be wide open for an attack.

Could be why Putin’s acting up, he knows no one will back us up.

We could be looking at full blown WWIII.

I’ve always said Hillary would start WWIII in her quest for absolute power.


43 posted on 05/22/2014 8:39:22 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: RushIsMyTeddyBear
Just how in the world does one call YT?

Obama would never call YT. He hates YT.

44 posted on 05/22/2014 8:41:28 PM PDT by Defiant (Let the Tea Party win, and we will declare peace on the American people and go home.)
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To: IMR 4350

One thing that you nailed - The entire world knows what Obama is. He is a coward. He will use a drone to murder his own citizens, but will not lift a finger to help if it is offensive to our enemies.

Putin can do A N Y T H I N G he wants. He knows Obama will do nothing.


45 posted on 05/22/2014 8:48:14 PM PDT by Bryan24 (When in doubt, move to the right..........)
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To: Bryan24

The dems and the left are real good at starting wars then turning against the people that are willing to fight them.

I don’t see the leaders our ally countries getting into another war supporting the US then having the US anti war crowd use that support against them and topple them from power.

Even worse, Obama gets us into a war and our allies support us then Obama decides to surrender and leave our allies to fight a war he started.


46 posted on 05/22/2014 9:08:27 PM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: Dick Bachert

Thanks.

FYI, I found a link-

Betrayal in Benghazi

http://www.frontpagemag.com/2013/colonel-phil-handley/betrayal-in-benghazi/


47 posted on 05/22/2014 10:15:25 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: Nachum
A still-classified State Department e-mail says that one of the first responses from the White House to the Benghazi attack was to contact YouTube to warn of the “ramifications” of allowing the posting of an anti-Islamic video...

Well, that answers two of the fundamental questions up to now unanswered :

Who dreamed up the video red herring?
And from how high did it originate?

I will forever cherish the inevitable anal-cranial inversion the explanation of that might trigger!

Popcorn time!

48 posted on 05/22/2014 11:22:44 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: Bryan24
I read somewhere that the video had less than 2000 hits before it was pulled.

I managed to view it.
Can't remember exactly when but it was while the WTF moment persisted.

49 posted on 05/22/2014 11:24:55 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: dainbramaged

>> ..., Cigarette.

Hell, do it in Colorado and give em a joint.


50 posted on 05/22/2014 11:25:19 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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