Skip to comments.TSA to Purchase 24 Million Rounds of “Duty” Ammunition (Feds preparing to arm TSA workers?)
Posted on 05/22/2014 6:09:57 PM PDT by equalator
The TSA has issued a solicitation requesting 24 million rounds of .357 SIG duty ammunition over a five year period, prompting fresh questions as to whether the federal agency is planning to arm its workers.
Estimated quantity is approximately 4,800,000 rounds of .357 Sig duty ammunition per year, totaling 24,000,000 over the life of the contract, states the solicitation, posted on FedBizOpps, which adds that the ammo is for use at DHS component locations nationwide.
(Excerpt) Read more at fbo.gov ...
I hope if Cruz is elected President he will order all this federale ammo to be sold on the open market to citizens and encourage every citizen to be armed and well provisioned with ammo.
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The end is coming from the United States, and this administration is stepping up the pace. Obviously something is going to happen that will require all law enforcement officers to begin murdering US citizens at will.
I’d wager 80% of TSA “agents” don’t know which end of the gun a bullet comes out.
I bet 80% of them would hold the gun sideways
Well they can try. I’d wager they’ll run when we start shooting back.
You’re probably safe if they’re shooting at you.
It’s that 3 year old at the other end of the concourse that will end up shot.
Is there a listing anywhere of all the government ammo purchases in the past oh say 6 years?
I wonder if these solicitations are truly for the agency stated. They are supposed to be but I wonder.
Why does the Post office need ammo? Or the TSA.DHS, however, IS arming themselves.
Seems like kind of an exotic round for this kind of thing.
Targets don’t shoot back.
It’s a rare round.
Where is the “dog aiming a gun” realistic target?
The government does not buy this amount of rounds unless they know
something they think we don’t know. I think we all know what is coming.
.357Sig isn’t the least bit rare. Many Fed agencies and municipal PDs use it. Think .40 S&W with rebated rim and .357 business end.
No need to go farther than the fall of the US Dollar. Currently the USD is backed only by the fact that a lot of those dollars are in circulation, and by the backroom deal that oil on this planet can be sold only for USD. This resulted in a situation where the USA only needs to print money to remain rich. This also means that the USA charges the world a tax for using the USD, and lives off of this tax. So far this works - in part because it takes only a small amount of money to "personally convince" the decision makers that the USD is the best currency in the world. However this does not make the USD any more attractive technically. There are also countries with enough weight to displace the USD - and they will do so without any hesitation if it benefits them.
If we imagine that the USD is not going anywhere, the current model of the US society, extrapolated onto a few decades in the future, is quite simple and stable. One President after another are building a cradle-to-grave dependency society, where citizens don't have to work in order to live. In reality most don't even have an option of working because they have neither a place to work at, nor skills to do the work, nor buyers of their product. In a long view a US citizen is born and immediately placed on entitlements until his natural (or not so natural) death. The entitlements would be financed by the rest of the planet. This scheme is already in place.
In either scenario the citizen ceases to be a valuable producer of goods. He instead becomes a useless eater. If the USD crashes, most of the population will not be able to survive. If the USD does not crash, the cattle needs to be managed and culled as needed to maintain a reasonable herd structure. (It's not very likely that 300 million people with too much free time on their hands will be only singing and painting.) That's where the ammo is needed.
Why not go with the .40 S&W ?
The Feds are buying many calibers in their armament program. .40 S&W, .357 Sig, , 9mm, and most of them hollow point slugs. H P rounds are illegal for military use. Seems like the decision makers are reading the literature on what is the most popular round of the moment and then buying it. Not much thought on what gun is going to shoot it.
USDA just put out a request for an MP5 type sub-gun that will launch the .40. I guess they felt a little out gunned in Nevada with their Glock 22’s against some serious firepower.
Why not? Every other Federal Agency is getting armed.
What agency has the .357 Sig round pistols? TSA? Most airports use local law enforcement for security and most cop shops use .40 cal. Do the feds just have another warehouse to fill with more ammo?
Better body armor penetration with the right projectile?
W Bush’s creation of DHS-the gift that keeps giving.
Not body armor but better performance than the 9mm but less recoil then a 40.
The specifications are for hollow point rounds.
They must penetrate at least 12 inches of gelatin after going through 2 sheets of 20 gauge, galvanized steel and ‘light clothing’ . Sounds like they want to nail folks in cars.
Also must penetrate gelatin after going through laminated glass at a 45 degree angle. aka: Windshield.
The TSA will be chasing folks through the parking lot.
Thanks for the info.
I've relocated the entire family out of the city in anticipation. Of course that doesn't bring any guarantee, but one does the best one can.
That is all one can do.
and we would be the gelatin
J-E-L-L-YOU! (You have to be kind of old to git that)
I predict a rash of accidental discharges, lost/stolen weapons, grab-ass homicides, and other forms of FedGov sponsored hijinx.
They already do, however this is usually given the trappings of SOP and/or official investigation.
I think that what we should be on the lookout for is a drop in info from any midsized cities, an information-blackout could indicate things happening.
The other way for a big operation to go down is as response to 'terrorism' which may or may not be a false-flag op.
Arming all the administrative agencies,but willing to destroy all the surplus 223 ammo...You tell me !
It’s standard Air Marshal ammo. Moves fast, hits hard, shouldn’t need a followup, limited penetration. Costs a lot in both ammo and the barrels it tears up in practice. It’s what you buy when price is no object but performance & availability is.
Please provide a verifiable source of information for that 2 billion number. Of course you cannot. Please don’t post BS on this forum.
They grip and assault the helpless and now they want to shoot them too
One of the things the Art of War teaches is to let your enemy supply you inasmuch as possible and to deny him supplies from afar [i.e. make his army have to carry everything they need, as it tiers out his soldiers and places more concerns on them]. — .223 is a very common civilian round, so to destroy it would be to deny it falling into
their enemy's hands.
If they start shooting at me, they better be good.
I seldom miss and with my S-W 629, good to 100 yards
Yep. I just had the pleasure of taking a class from the guy the Air Marshals chose to instruct them. They did an extensive testing program for specifying the caliber and came up with two recommendations: (1) .357 Sig, and (2) .45 ACP. Great, he sez, I'm gonna get to instruct on .45...oh, no. These guys had money. REAL money. When they carried in the crates of .357 Sig he said he was thinking Wow! I get to teach with that, and then, Wait a minute! I PAID for that!
They're good shots. They have to requalify every 21 days because they lose their edge after that. That sort of program costs a lot of time and money. Did I say a lot of money? When they need to train in a 747 they lower one from the ceiling. When they need a 707, same story. These guys have money. Your money.
There are too many cops killing citizens already. Just like there are too many dumb cops and too many fat cops. But hopefully, when the war starts and the adrenaline starts to rise the fat ones will drop dead of a heart attack.
Well I don't know about that but there is a goodly percentage of TSA "agents" that do because that's the end the cops were pointing at them when they were arrested.
I think the TSA will be in charge of making sure the cargo on the death trains is unarmed...
But I don’t see one of a dog...
It's an elongated .40 case necked down to fit a 9mm bullet. What I don't get is that the trajectory is flatter, and penetration greater. Air Marshals might not want too much penetration, what with people, a cockpit, and a bunch of plane around them.
There is a list of agencies at the link.
The war on drugs is really a WAR ON US Citizens!
The Govt is Arming BOTH SIDES, and selling the drugs on BOTH SIDES!
END PROHIBITION NOW! Deny the police state ANY RIGHT except in hostage sits, to kick in doors and murder people!