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Why The US Department of Agriculture Needs Submachine Guns
The Market Oracle ^ | 5-23-2014 | Jeff Berwick

Posted on 05/23/2014 10:14:34 AM PDT by blam

May 23, 2014 - 05:54 PM
Jeff Berwick

Wendy McElroy writes: On May 7, the US Department of Agriculture (USDA) posted a notice on the government's Federal Business Opportunities site in order to solicit bids on an undisclosed number of submachine guns. The notice read, in part,

“The U.S. Department of Agriculture, Office of Inspector General, located in Washington, DC, pursuant to the authority of FAR Part 13, has a requirement for the commerical [sic] acquisition of submachine guns, .40 Cal. S&W, ambidextrous safety, semi-automatic or 2 shot burts [sic] trigger group, Tritium night sights for front and rear, rails for attachment of flashlight (front under fore grip) and scope (top rear), stock-collapsilbe [sic] or folding, magazine - 30 rd. capacity, sling, light weight, and oversized trigger guard for gloved operation.” [Note: spelling errors in original]

Speculation On The Why of Submachine Guns

When President Abraham Lincoln established the USDA in 1862, he called it the “People's Department.” The USDA website lists its current areas of authority as: Assisting Rural Communities; Conservation; Education and Research; Food and Nutrition; and, Marketing and Trade. The agency has over 100,000 employees. Why do employees of the People's Department need semi-automatic machine guns to do their job? What would the job description be?

Second Amendment sites have speculated that the most likely recipients are agents of the US Forest Service (USFS) Law Enforcement & Investigations unit; the USFS falls under USDA control. Although this seems likely, there are also counter-indications. The solicitation notice makes no mention of the USFS, and those agents are already armed. The Wikipedia site on USFS states “Special agents are normally plainclothes officers who carry concealed firearms, and other defensive equipment...” Moreover, the weapon being solicited is typically used for close quarter operations, such as inside

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KEYWORDS: agriculture; banglist; blm; thugs; weapons

1 posted on 05/23/2014 10:14:34 AM PDT by blam
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To: blam

Congress? Or are they all weaponeered up too?


2 posted on 05/23/2014 10:17:35 AM PDT by onedoug
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To: blam

The short answer is: They don’t.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 10:18:52 AM PDT by WayneS (Don't blame me, I voted for Kodos.)
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To: blam
Because someone might wish to purchase unpasteurized milk and the govt wants to use the final solution on them.
4 posted on 05/23/2014 10:19:08 AM PDT by PATRIOT1876
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To: blam

To shoot cows?


5 posted on 05/23/2014 10:19:23 AM PDT by Cicero (Marcus Tullius)
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To: blam

I hear that there is presently a lot of ‘stalking’ going on in the corn fields of the mid-west.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 10:20:03 AM PDT by Kartographer ("We mutually pledge to each other our lives, our fortunes and our sacred honor.")
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To: blam
Why do employees of the People's Department need semi-automatic machine guns to do their job?

What on earth is a "semiautomatic machine gun"?

7 posted on 05/23/2014 10:21:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: blam

At the same time the government wants to abolish the second amendment and take away our guns. Something rotten is going on here.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 10:22:36 AM PDT by Vinylly (?%)
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To: WayneS

The most possible charitable answer is “meth labs”.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 10:22:45 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Cicero
To shoot cows?

But only if the cow appears to be advancing in a "threatening manner". Then the USDA officers must shoot. Because they would "fear for their safety".

10 posted on 05/23/2014 10:25:02 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: WayneS
No ... to shoot us.

or can't I say that in a public forum ?

11 posted on 05/23/2014 10:25:08 AM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: blam

Why is there no quantity of guns stated?


12 posted on 05/23/2014 10:25:23 AM PDT by bergmeid
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To: blam
The only thing I can see is that they plan to hassle and provoke regular folks until someone snaps.
Then we'll have martial law.

13 posted on 05/23/2014 10:25:47 AM PDT by BitWielder1 (Corporate Profits are better than Government Waste)
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To: blam

“Let’s see here,” the President said, pulling a folded sheet of copy paper from the pocket of his suit coat. “In addition to the FBI, Secret Service, and DBA, which you probably already knew about, employees of the Environmental Protection Agency are now authorized to carry guns. As are employees of the Departments of Agriculture, Education, Immigration, Labor, Energy, and Commerce. To that, add the Bureau of Land Management, the FAA, the Department of Health and Human Services, Department of Housing and Urban Development, and the State Department. And, of course, the IRS,” the President added. “People from those agencies may be armed anywhere in the country.

Including, as I said, while they are traveling on commercial airlines.

Surprised?” “’Horrified’ would be more accurate.”

(Unintended Consequences by John Ross)


14 posted on 05/23/2014 10:27:29 AM PDT by RandallFlagg (Uninstall Fascist Firefox. Get Pale Moon.)
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To: blam

militant vegetables!!?


15 posted on 05/23/2014 10:28:41 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: blam

We don’t need the department of Agriculture. They do not grow any crops


16 posted on 05/23/2014 10:31:03 AM PDT by FatherofFive (Islam is evil and must be eradicated)
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To: Leaning Right
"But only if the cow appears to be advancing in a "threatening manner"

OR

wielding gardening shears or a Pop Tart eaten into the shape of a gun.

17 posted on 05/23/2014 10:34:09 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: blam

I surmise there are people being hired (men) in these various largesse departments which are not typical hires; no, they are in fact 0bummer’s new military, ones who WILL fire upon citizenry if he orders it. They hire first, let the “hirees” determine what weaponry they want, then they get it. Does this jibe with the 200+ high ranking military leaders he’s summarily fired for “infractions”? Yep. Welcome to the silent coup.


18 posted on 05/23/2014 10:34:28 AM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Living in the midst of a silently coup.)
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To: blam

“fascism: noun.

- - - 2. a system of government characterized by rigid one-party dictatorship, forcible suppression of the opposition, the retention of private ownership of the means of production under centralized governmental control, - - - “


19 posted on 05/23/2014 10:35:05 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: blam

Because they aren’t willing to wait for farmers to starve to death as Stalin did?


20 posted on 05/23/2014 10:35:29 AM PDT by Vigilanteman (Obama: Fake black man. Fake Messiah. Fake American. How many fakes can you fit in one Zer0?)
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To: blam

Hint; EBT CARDS


21 posted on 05/23/2014 10:37:30 AM PDT by justrepublican (Screaming like a "Vexatious requester" at a Wellstone memorial...........)
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To: blam
Why The US Department of Agriculture Needs Submachine Guns

Because the old pumpkin patch is not as safe as it used to be........or....... Obama is just expanding his civilian army!

22 posted on 05/23/2014 10:39:27 AM PDT by varon (Para bellum)
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To: defconw
wielding gardening shears or a Pop Tart eaten into the shape of a gun

I totally forgot about the weapons aspect of all this. A cow armed with, say, a shovel would be a formidable opponent. So if a UDSA officer sees a cow walking towards a shovel, better to shoot first and ask questions later.

23 posted on 05/23/2014 10:40:26 AM PDT by Leaning Right (Why am I holding this lantern? I am looking for the next Reagan.)
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To: blam
That's okay...just more to pick up off the ground WTSHTF.

Scouts Out! Cavalry Ho!

24 posted on 05/23/2014 10:41:59 AM PDT by wku man (We are the 53%! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YUXN0GDuLN4)
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To: Leaning Right

LOL, yes shovels as well as hooves could be considered a dangerous weapons as well. Look what those bulls did to the matadors.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 10:43:23 AM PDT by defconw (Well now what?)
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To: blam

USDA inspectors have learned the bovines have NVGs and IEDs?


26 posted on 05/23/2014 10:43:28 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: varon

http://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=pumpkin+chunkin+video&FORM=VIRE3#view=detail&mid=AA0F58B0939F223C8AB9AA0F58B0939F223C8AB9

insurgents now have pumpkin cannons!


27 posted on 05/23/2014 10:45:17 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: blam
The reason they are buying all these weapons and ammo is that they are going to need them, not only to enforce the "law", but to protect themselves.

Soon all Feds will be forced to live in protected compounds...not unlike Feudal times.

28 posted on 05/23/2014 10:45:28 AM PDT by Mariner (War Criminal #18)
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To: blam

USDA needs this firepower to defend themselves against any farmers who might be armed with a hammer.


29 posted on 05/23/2014 10:48:18 AM PDT by Rebelbase (Tagline: optional, printed after your name on post)
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To: blam

There are probably at least two reasons for these recent weapon purchases by nonmilitary agencies.(A) the members of the Federal Government are scared to death on what is coming. They know they are bungling and corrupt. There is probably a groundswell of anti-government hatred. (B) They are raising the price of weapons and ammunition so high that people cannot afford them. In short, a means of “gun control.”


30 posted on 05/23/2014 10:53:56 AM PDT by AEMILIUS PAULUS (It is a shame that when these people give a riot)
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To: blam

Ever since the days of the hated Federal Surplus Relief Corporation (1933), an authoritarian, police state agency created by FDR to destroy farmers crops and livestock (including six million pigs) without recompense, farmers and other people living in rural areas have distrusted the federal government.

Back then, a convoy of cars and trucks would show up at a farm, seize their stores, kill their animals, and tell them they were no longer farmers, and to go to the cities to eat from soup kitchens or starve.

The vast majority meekly complied, because it happened so swiftly, and they have few serious guns, perhaps a shotgun or pistol, and faced Tommy guns, just like what the gangsters in the cities used.

Today, however, we have communications, and more and better guns.


31 posted on 05/23/2014 10:57:40 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: blam

More weapons and ammo stockpiled for the resistance!


32 posted on 05/23/2014 11:03:36 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: blam

More weapons and ammo stockpiled for the resistance!


33 posted on 05/23/2014 11:03:36 AM PDT by olepap (Your old Pappy)
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To: RandallFlagg
(Unintended Consequences by John Ross)

Published 1996. Pretty good call by Ross!

34 posted on 05/23/2014 11:07:29 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: blam

When angry, plant life can be REALLY threatening.


35 posted on 05/23/2014 11:15:14 AM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: BitWielder1

...until someone snaps. And then we have Marshal Law.

Bingo. We have a winner. Let’s hope cooler heads prevail. Although I get ‘shooting’ mad sometimes I have to think of the innocents who always pay the price.


36 posted on 05/23/2014 11:18:13 AM PDT by WilliamRobert (Obama so loves the poor he created millions more.)
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To: Billthedrill

Sort of like an “assault weapon,” or an “assault-type weapon,” only a little more vague.


37 posted on 05/23/2014 11:19:38 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: hal ogen
When angry, plant life can be REALLY threatening.

Dang right!

38 posted on 05/23/2014 11:22:27 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: blam

All those guns in the hands of all of those creeps, won’t stop that certain somebody standing behind them, when they are getting their morning coffee.

Just thought i’d give all those creeps a pleasant thought, on a weekend that is supposed to commemorate those who died for freedom.


39 posted on 05/23/2014 11:42:06 AM PDT by Terry L Smith
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To: Leaning Right
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40 posted on 05/23/2014 11:42:18 AM PDT by mykroar (We fight, get beat, rise, and fight again. - Nathanael Greene)
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To: blam

Attack of the killer Tomatoes.......?

Have to put down those uppity fruits and vegetables........


41 posted on 05/23/2014 11:54:24 AM PDT by njslim (T)
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To: All
The answer is really very simple:

The machine guns are needed to kill citizens of the United States.

Anyone disagree?
42 posted on 05/23/2014 11:56:23 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: blam

If they need em, you and me need em.


43 posted on 05/23/2014 12:19:50 PM PDT by showme_the_Glory (ILLEGAL: prohibited by law. ALIEN: Owing political allegiance to another country or government)
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To: Robert Teesdale
"The machine guns are needed to kill citizens of the United States.

Anyone disagree?"

Can't say I do. We've been watching this advance for many years now, haven't we?

Good to see you still around, Robert.

44 posted on 05/23/2014 1:14:21 PM PDT by Joe Brower (The "American People" are no longer capable of self-governance.)
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To: blam

“Moreover, the weapon being solicited is typically used for close quarter operations,”

Man those rotten fruits really put up a fight at the port of entry inspections.


45 posted on 05/23/2014 5:09:17 PM PDT by Redcitizen (When a zombie apocalypse starts, Chuck Norris doesn't try to survive. The zombies do.)
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To: Joe Brower
We have. The ebb and flow of human freedom is once again leaving us behind, with a long melancholy roar.

We fought this fifteen years ago and it was successful. But the opposition changed tactics last time, and we didn't. We've been successfully capturing the states and driving the Second Amendment into political culture on a statewide level.

The Federal leviathan has been arming to the teeth and pushing that meme downwards. It is a terrible strategy, for it begs much bloodshed in pursuit of their ideological triumph.

But as is said, "quantity has a quality all of its own".

Three percent is 3.4 million belligerents.

That's enough to implement 4GW no matter who you talk to.

Including cynical old patriots like ourselves. Good to see you also.
46 posted on 05/24/2014 7:18:12 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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To: Mariner
Soon all Feds will be forced to live in protected compounds...not unlike Feudal times.

So you're saying they will herd themselves into killing zones if the ball drops? Works for the People.
47 posted on 05/24/2014 7:19:57 AM PDT by Robert Teesdale
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