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Boehner wants to privatize VA
WHIO.com ^ | 5-23-14 | Jessica Wehrman

Posted on 05/23/2014 1:58:16 PM PDT by windcliff

WASHINGTON — More than two decades ago, House Speaker John Boehner said he offered an idea that was controversial at the time: Why not privatize the Department of Veterans Affairs?The idea was soundly rejected by veterans organizations.Now, in the midst of a sweeping scandal over reports that veterans had died waiting for treatment, Boehner, R-West Chester Twp., said Friday that the idea still has merit.

“I still like the idea and especially now,” he said, but cautioned that “until we understand what’s happening and until we understand whether it can be fixed or how it can be fixed, all veterans seeking care shouldn’t have to wait.”Boehner, in an exclusive interview with the Dayton Daily News Friday, said he believes the problems at the VA are “systemic,” and said he is not convinced that having VA Secretary Eric Shinseki resign will fix the problem.

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TOPICS: Government; News/Current Events
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1 posted on 05/23/2014 1:58:17 PM PDT by windcliff
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To: windcliff

He shouldn’t stop at VA; all the states could be privatized...


2 posted on 05/23/2014 2:00:48 PM PDT by chajin ("There is no other name under heaven given among people by which we must be saved." Acts 4:12)
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To: windcliff

Let’s encourage the crying speaker to pursue this. Nothing screams big government inefficiency like this VA scandal.


3 posted on 05/23/2014 2:01:33 PM PDT by lormand (Inside every liberal is a dung slinging monkey)
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To: windcliff

Which is where all economic and enterprising endeavors including healthcare belong: in the free market.


4 posted on 05/23/2014 2:04:11 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: windcliff

hey crybaby...we need to start with abolishing the whole dang federal govt and get the heck rid of all you useless criminals and restore a true constitutional republic.


5 posted on 05/23/2014 2:05:45 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: windcliff

The problem we are rapidly running into is that neither Government nor Corporations are competent to run anything ESPECIALLY something that cares for our heroes.

Until we recognize the enemies on all fronts we are in grave danger.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 2:06:16 PM PDT by RIghtwardHo
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To: windcliff

My 85 year old father in law uses the VA as his primary care and was informed two days ago he may now get his cataracts repaired at a private doctor and the VA will cover the procedure.


7 posted on 05/23/2014 2:08:00 PM PDT by dainbramaged (Don't tell me, I'll tell you.)
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To: windcliff

He needs to start privatizing the American people.


8 posted on 05/23/2014 2:10:19 PM PDT by Maceman
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To: windcliff

Good idea, but won’t happen. Anytime a politician proposes privatizing any function of government, unions, their Democrat allies and other special interests raise such a stink, the Republicans cower in fear and back off.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 2:11:29 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: windcliff

Good idea, but won’t happen. Anytime a politician proposes privatizing any function of government, unions, their Democrat allies and other special interests raise such a stink, the Republicans cower in fear and back off.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 2:11:30 PM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: windcliff

Good idea...privatize your retirement too.


11 posted on 05/23/2014 2:18:44 PM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: windcliff

Don’t waste a good crisis; spin the table on them...oh, it’s Boehner, the pantywaist, wuss, wimp and two-faced liar coward.


12 posted on 05/23/2014 2:40:19 PM PDT by CincyRichieRich (Living in the midst of a silently coup.)
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To: windcliff

So Vets pay for their own healthcare?


13 posted on 05/23/2014 2:53:08 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: chajin

Whatever he wants to do, just don’t put our Veteran care under Obama care.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 2:57:11 PM PDT by Libertynotfree (Over spending, Over taxes, and Over regulation)
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To: windcliff

What this would end up being is Obamacare for Veterans, with the feds paying for the insurance. How would that help anyone? It would further entrench Obamacare.


15 posted on 05/23/2014 2:58:57 PM PDT by grania
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To: Wolfie

No Let me give you an example. I admit a patient that needs medical care. He is covered by the VA if they do not have a bed they pay for his care locally. That is how it is now. I had a Pt hoping the VA did NOT have a bed so he could get his cardiac CATH locally. Too bad for him they had a bed and he was shipped after a lot of hassle for him. the problem is like Tricare the VA reimbursement is terrible A lot of Private hospitals will not accept TriCare . Just like Medicare and Medicaid all pay poorly.


16 posted on 05/23/2014 3:03:17 PM PDT by therut
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To: windcliff

Privatize yourself, bonehead.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 3:59:15 PM PDT by Fungi
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To: windcliff

Reagan proposed privatizing the VA. Even now, with the disaster exposed, plenty of otherwise sane folks are going to oppose the idea.


18 posted on 05/23/2014 4:02:59 PM PDT by jjotto ("Ya could look it up!")
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To: Wolfie

Let’s give all of them a choice between VA socialist provided medicine or a government paid gold plated private insurance plan of their choice.


19 posted on 05/23/2014 4:18:29 PM PDT by wintertime
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To: windcliff

If you look at it, I think the only way ‘they’ thought this ‘Health Care’ was going to work was to put as many as possible in the VA system.

Prior Wee Willie Clinton and Hillary Care, VA was for service related ONLY or retirees (as a last resort).

When ‘they’ introduced Hillary Care, the VA opened up for ANY Vet with an Honorable Discharge and started co payments.

When Clinton left office, one of the first acts of Bush was to go back to the ‘old way’ for VA care with the exception that those that had signed up etc were eligible to stay in the system.

With Bush gone, one of the first things BO did was OPEN VA to the Clinton standards, and then they started pushing oBomaScare.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 4:29:04 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak.".)
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To: jjotto

Reagan proposed privatizing the VA
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I think one proposal of Reagan was to open VA Hospitals in rural areas to ALL on space available basis.
I don’t think ‘he’ really explained what he was trying to do or maybe ‘we’ just thought he was another pol trying to ‘take something away from the Vet’.

Believe his goal was that if the VA Hospitals were being used they could remain open and it would also allow Vets to use Private Hospitals if a VA facility wasn’t handy.


21 posted on 05/23/2014 4:34:48 PM PDT by xrmusn ((6/98)"Light travels faster than sound. This is why some people appear bright until they speak.".)
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To: windcliff

It could not be worse than it is now.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 5:12:44 PM PDT by Georgia Girl 2 (The only purpose o f a pistol is to fight your way back to the rifle you should never have dropped.)
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To: windcliff

If the Feds gladly embrace “vouchers” (in the form of EBT cards and Food Stamps) to aid the “poor” why don’t they do the same for Veteran’s medical care needs?


23 posted on 05/23/2014 6:15:17 PM PDT by BwanaNdege ( "For those who have fought for it, Life bears a savor the protected will never know")
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To: wintertime

Sounds good, but how do you pay for it. We know cuts to something else won’t fly.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 4:36:21 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: RIghtwardHo
The problem we are rapidly running into is that neither Government nor Corporations are competent to run anything ESPECIALLY something that cares for our heroes.

Until we recognize the enemies on all fronts we are in grave danger.


This, in a nutshell, is our problem. We live under crony capitalism aka fascism. Healthcare has become big business and is not delivered under free market conditions. This is the catch-22 when one speaks of privatizing anything government run.
25 posted on 05/24/2014 6:16:38 AM PDT by khelus
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To: RIghtwardHo

Here is another IGNORED SCANDAL, this is what I’ve dug up so far. The NEW DOD MANDATE that TRICARE LIFE Retired Military are to use either Base Dispensary or Express Scripts for their maintenance meds went into effect 4/14/2014. Very cunbersome system, when you are use to a Family owned private Pharmacy, where you are treated like a family member and a human. To this dehumanizing process, Base dispensary is NOT set up to deal with Seniors especially handicapped ones. When it comes time to reorder your meds they come out of Pensacola, FL for the TN region. 5 days to get a refill. 2 days to get a first script. Unless you want to sit 3+ hrs waiting for it to be filled. It will be a turn in, and go back the next day to pick it up. Express Scripts is a 2 week process. Your drugs are shoved NO PHOTO ID SIGNED for into your mailbox by USPS. Available to kids, meth makers or just thieves.

Money trail needs to be found, and soon. Rumor mill has it Medicare and Medicaid will be forced to Express Scripts. Creating more a SINGLE PROVIDER medicine machine, wiping out family Pharmacies.

Express Scripts Accused Of Defrauding State And Consumers Out Of Millions Of Dollars
http://www.ag.ny.gov/press-release/express-scripts-accused-defrauding-state-and-consumers-out-millions-dollars

NY attoney general sues Express Scripts, Benefits firm accused of inflating prices, keeping up to $100 Million
http://www.nbcnews.com/id/5601076/ns/business-corporate_scandals/t/ny-attorney-general-sues-express-scripts/#.U381ECh7SMQ

Express Scripts Extortion Scheme Widens
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/news04/2009/09/express_scripts_breach.html

Express Scripts complaints
http://www.consumeraffairs.com/rx/express_scripts.html

ES Customer Service ranking
http://www.customerservicescoreboard.com/Express+Scripts

Express Scripts RIP OFF
https://www.ripoffreport.com/reports/directory/express-scripts

ES buys out Medco
29 Billion
http://www.modernhealthcare.com/article/20120402/NEWS/304029961

For TRICARE PRIME Tricare PRIME
http://www.armytimes.com/article/20130802/BENEFITS06/308020011/DoD-silent-major-changes-Tricare-Prime
2 links

Air Force MiCare
http://www.military.com/military-report/air-force-micare?ESRC=miltrep.nl


26 posted on 05/24/2014 6:37:18 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: Wolfie

VA is income means tested. Hubby is Ret SCPO, 73, TRICARE LIFE/MEDICARE. VA denies him health care because with 2 SS checks and his Navy Pension, keep in mind his service yrs were 60-80 when pay was low. HE makes TO MUCH for VA healthcare. In the process of applying for service disability we are at the 1 yr mark on that, flight deck hearing loss, and Retinitis from cleaning chems that left holes in his vision. Unfix able.


27 posted on 05/24/2014 6:42:33 AM PDT by GailA (IF you fail to keep your promises to the Military, you won't keep them to Citizens!)
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To: GailA

Thanks for all those links


28 posted on 05/24/2014 7:27:45 AM PDT by khelus
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