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Mitch McConnell’s Democratic opponent to disgruntled Matt Bevin fans and supporters: Join me
Hotair ^ | 05/23/2014 | AllahPundit

Posted on 05/23/2014 6:45:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind

Together you can rule the galaxy.

I, too, believe Washington, D.C. is not working for Kentucky.

I, too, believe that the federal government should help or get out of the way.

I, too, want Republicans and Democrats to work together to cut spending and to help Kentucky businesses create jobs…

Join me, and let us work together to create change. Yes, we are in different parties, and we have divergent views on some issues. But if you believe that we need a fresh face to shake up Washington, I invite you to join our campaign.

If you believe that it is past time to give Mitch McConnell and his D.C. lobbyist cronies the boot, I welcome you to join our effort to elect an independent, commonsense problem solver who will fight for Kentucky values.

Is there any evidence that tea partiers disgusted with Mitch the Knife might be open to this pitch? Sort of. Remember this table from one of the last polls of the primary?

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Twenty-five percent of “conservative” voters were open to voting for Alison Grimes. Granted, 21 percent of “liberals” were open to McConnell, but there are no hard feelings potentially blocking those voters from coming home to the Democrats in November. Among Republicans, there are lots of hard feelings. Read the intro to this CNN piece from a few days ago in which an annoyed Bevin shows off a “Fraud Alert” that Team Mitch sent around about him. Quote: “It’s unbelievable. It’s crap. This is how he has run his entire race. He’s attacking me for being a member of the tea party while threatening to crush these people and punch them in the nose.” His anger was, per CNN, a source of “amusement” to the McConnell camp. Politico got an even more interesting quote from Bevin the day after he was blown out: “You can’t punch people in the face, punch people in the face, punch people in the face, and ask them to have tea and crumpets with you and think it’s all good.”

Or can you?

Matt Bevin responds to Alison Grimes' letter to his supporters. Basically says no dice without explicitly endorsing Mitch McConnell.

— Jim Antle (@jimantle) May 23, 2014

"Kentucky and America do need real change," Bevin writes, but not Grimes' "proposed platform of government expansion."

— Jim Antle (@jimantle) May 23, 2014

No one believes that Bevin’s going to endorse Grimes. He’s young by political standards; if Rand Paul is blocked by law from running for president and Senate in 2016, Bevin might jump into the Senate primary to replace him. He’d be DOA in two years if he embraces the Democrat outright but maybe not DOA if he declares that, as a matter of conservative conscience, he can’t endorse anyone in the race. Besides, how much would it really matter to Mitch-haters if Bevin did endorse McConnell? Support for Bevin on the right was never about him personally; it was a pure “Not Mitch” coalition. Whether that endures or disintegrates as hard feelings soften has little to do with Bevin at this point.

It’s interesting, though, that McConnell is sufficiently worried about tea partiers staying home that he’s already trotting out Rand Paul to make the case for unity. Everyone expected Rand to campaign for him, but I didn’t think we’d see him talking up McConnell’s conservative bona fides three days after the primary — especially since tea-party groups have, commendably, already moved to closed ranks around McConnell. There is, though, something to be said for the idea that Mark Levin was kicking around (but not quite endorsing) the other day about conservatives staying home in the general election to send a message to establishment brawlers like McConnell. It comes at a steep cost in potentially losing a red-state Senate seat, but if you want to truly terrify Beltway Republicans who stray too far from the tea-party line, one lone general-election boycott — at the minority leader’s expense, no less — would do it like nothing else. It’s not going to happen, but again, it’s interesting that Team Mitch is taking nothing for granted.

Exit question: Does McConnell’s plan to repeal ObamaCare also include repealing Kentucky’s state insurance exchange? Oddly, he’s noncommittal on the question.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; US: Kentucky
KEYWORDS: kentucky; lundergangrimes; mattbevin; mitchmcconnell
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"JOIN ME, LUKE..."


1 posted on 05/23/2014 6:45:17 PM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

Come to the Dark Side.


2 posted on 05/23/2014 6:49:09 PM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: SeekAndFind

>> Join me, Luke...

Very good!


3 posted on 05/23/2014 6:49:31 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: SeekAndFind

Absolutely Terrific! I love the whole why vote for democrat lite when you can just vote for the real thing!


4 posted on 05/23/2014 6:53:20 PM PDT by Mastador1 (I'll take a bad dog over a good politician any day!)
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To: SeekAndFind
Exit question: Does McConnell’s plan to repeal ObamaCare also include repealing Kentucky’s state insurance exchange? Oddly, he’s noncommittal on the question.

Oddly? Oddly? Nothing odd about it, this is vintage McConnell SOP. Clue: McConnell has NO plan or desire to repeal ObamaCare.

I'm certainly not voting for "Harry's Bitch" Mitch, but I damn sure ain't voting for Grimes. She was in town this week promising jobs to everyone. People are so stupid.

5 posted on 05/23/2014 6:53:31 PM PDT by ChildOfThe60s ((If you can remember the 60s.....you weren't really there)
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To: Farmer Dean

I suspect that quite a few people will fall for this and follow this guy. If elected, he will do what all Democrats in the Senate do, follow orders from Harry Reid.


6 posted on 05/23/2014 6:54:31 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: SeekAndFind
"...McConnell is sufficiently worried about tea partiers staying home that he’s already trotting out Rand Paul"

Paul can trot all he wants, I don't much care what happens with McConnell.

7 posted on 05/23/2014 6:55:13 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: SeekAndFind

This always gets real contentious here, but I still think Mitch McConnell is better than the Democrat. Mitch’s conservative ratings are not nearly as bad as some claim. I know some say Mitch games his votes so as to appear more conservative, but when it counts, he’s against us. Nevertheless, I think it’s better to keep this Republican senate seat. That does not mean we have to support Mitch as leader BTW.

One thing that grates on me in particular is the way Mitch came down on the tea party. Like many in the GOPe, they seem to reserve their worst ire for conservatives rather than Democrats. That bothers me...a lot. On the other hand, the tea party conservatives didn’t exactly play kissy kiss with Mitch. We, in fact, pretty much declared war on him, and he fought back as anyone would do.

Now it’s up to Mitch McConnell to make peace. Based on his prior votes, he’s at least 80% our ally. That’s good enough for me even though I know my attitude will piss some FReepers off. My philosophy is to give ‘em hell in the primaries and then pick the best possible candidate to advance the conservative agenda. If someone can make a plausible case for the Democrat being better for that (advancing conservatism), I’ll listen, but otherwise I’m sticking with the GOPe in cases like this (Exception: House races where we really can afford to sacrifice a seat or two to take down a RINO).


8 posted on 05/23/2014 6:57:53 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’ve said this many times, primary the RINOs, if we lose the primary, vote for the DEMOCRAT! This WILL get rid of McConnell.

Do you have the balls to do it? Time to show the RINOs that we mean business.

But we might win the Senate. Yeah, and a moderate nominee will win us the presidency.

ENOUGH already! Time to play tough. Time to do what it takes to purge these RINOs from the GOP.

Getting rid of McConnell in this manner will scare the crap out of the rest of them and take us seriously from then on.


9 posted on 05/23/2014 7:00:41 PM PDT by faucetman ( Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts)
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To: SeekAndFind
Hey folks, rest assured she'll wave through every one of Baraq and Hillary's new SCOTUS appointments.


10 posted on 05/23/2014 7:00:55 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: nascarnation
So will McConnell.

/johnny

11 posted on 05/23/2014 7:06:39 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: ChildOfThe60s; All
Nothing odd about it, this is vintage McConnell SOP.
Clue: McConnell has NO plan or desire to repeal ObamaCare.
Yeah..same old; same old; i may take TGO's advice...
"It's better to have your enemy in front of you, than as your
friend stabbing you in the back."
...George S. Patton, Sr.

12 posted on 05/23/2014 7:08:05 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: SeekAndFind
It’s interesting, though, that McConnell is sufficiently worried about tea partiers staying home that he’s already trotting out Rand Paul to make the case for unity.

Paul was an early and eager McConnell supporter, he jumped on his team early, 14 months ago.

March,2013--"Rand Paul endorses Mitch McConnell in 2014 Senate race, won’t back tea party challenge"
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13 posted on 05/23/2014 7:10:07 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: centurion316

“He” is not a he; “he’s” a she.


14 posted on 05/23/2014 7:10:53 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: CitizenUSA
A lot of people won't vote for the liberal republican anymore. More and more are starting to see that they have to get rid of those like Mitch who enable Reid's agenda. They are taking the long-range, strategic view.

Voting for the 'lesser evil' has proven to not lead the country to more conservative governance.

/johnny

15 posted on 05/23/2014 7:12:05 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: Farmer Dean

I worked with one of her cousins. The whole family is as liberal as the day is long. This woman is lying big time.


16 posted on 05/23/2014 7:12:07 PM PDT by pleasenotcalifornia
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To: JRandomFreeper
Hey it's all good.

Here in Indiana we got "Obama Joe" until 2018.


17 posted on 05/23/2014 7:13:01 PM PDT by nascarnation (Toxic Baraq Syndrome: hopefully infecting a Dem candidate near you)
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To: libstripper

How can we be sure? But thanks.


18 posted on 05/23/2014 7:13:13 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: ansel12; All
hopefully, much to his chagrin!What happen "Rant" Paul?
You turn on US(A)..We hardly knew yah!

19 posted on 05/23/2014 7:14:41 PM PDT by skinkinthegrass (The end move in politics is always to pick up a gun..0'Bathhouse/"Rustler" Reid? d8-)
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To: SeekAndFind

Big Goobermint, Slimeball, Establishment Republican against Big Goobermint, lying, scheming, Dim.

Decisions, decisions.


20 posted on 05/23/2014 7:17:38 PM PDT by SharpRightTurn (White, black, and red all over--America's affirmative action, metrosexual president.)
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To: JRandomFreeper
"More and more are starting to see that they have to get rid of those like Mitch..."

Pour encourager les autres

21 posted on 05/23/2014 7:20:23 PM PDT by Flag_This (Liberalism: Kills countries dead.)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“A lot of people won’t vote for the liberal republican anymore.”

I respect that. We each have to do what we think is best. All I ask is that both sides show respect for the other. It’s clear that many conservatives are in a quandary over voting for the lesser evil. I know I am. It’s not an easy thing to do. I just don’t think electing Democrats is a very good alternative. We know they’ll vote against us 100% of the time.


22 posted on 05/23/2014 7:21:19 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: SeekAndFind

But like every other Democrat, you will vote 100% for everything this Marxist president wants. Look at Manchin’s and Pryor’s voting records. They carry Obama’s water as faithfully as Charles Schumer and Elijah Cummings do.


23 posted on 05/23/2014 7:22:24 PM PDT by txrefugee
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To: CitizenUSA
McConnell voted FOR Ruth Bader-Ginsburg. How's that working out for you?

/johnny

24 posted on 05/23/2014 7:24:06 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Well, Ginsberg isn’t working out well for me at all, LOL. However, a president has the right to nominate people who share his ideology. The senate has advice and consent, but what would happen if someone like Ginsberg was not approved. A leftist president would simply appoint another just like her. I would personally vote to toss a few nominations out if I was a senator—hoping for someone better—but Republicans have generally played nice. That’s pretty foolish given the modern Democrat party. Sadly, I see little evidence the GOPe is ready to treat Democrats like they’ve treated us.

Oh, one thing I know for sure. Had a Democrat been in Mitch’s seat for the Ginsberg vote, it wouldn’t have changed anything. That’s why I question the strategy of voting Democrat to remove RINOs. That’s like jumping from the frying pan into the fire, my FRiend.


25 posted on 05/23/2014 7:30:35 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: SeekAndFind

I’d vote for the Democrat myself, since it’s now the only way to get rid of Mick.


26 posted on 05/23/2014 7:35:05 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: CitizenUSA
Long term, you can't get conservative governance with liberal republican leadership. And make no mistake, Mitch supports Reid's agenda. He may have show votes for the folks back home, but those that are paying attention see what is happening.

So looking at the long term, and thinking strategically, removing a 'leader' that is liberal is moving America in the right direction.

Keeping around a liberal republican who will vote to grow the government and reduce freedoms won't ever get you where you want to go.

History proves it. Voting for the 'lesser evil' doesn't make for more conservative governance. It makes for more liberal governance.

/johnny

27 posted on 05/23/2014 7:35:50 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

want Republicans and Democrats to work together

NO! That is the problem with establishment Republicans; they are willing to “work together” with Dims to further the Dim agenda, just not as fast as the Dims want to do! We want Republicans to STOP the Dim agenda!


28 posted on 05/23/2014 7:41:57 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: nascarnation
re: Hey folks, rest assured she'll wave through every one of Baraq and Hillary's new SCOTUS appointments.

Interesting. Have any of his judicial appointments been blocked? Supreme Court Appointments?
I am just wondering if Alison Grimes would be any better or any worse than McConnell.
Believe me, I do not know.

29 posted on 05/23/2014 7:43:42 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: ChildOfThe60s

Guys, at this point you don’t have a choice; you need to vote for the RINO. Sorry, but we need the seat and we’ll have to look for conservatives to nullify his influence in other districts.


30 posted on 05/23/2014 7:44:26 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: logic101.net
Nope. It's not going to happen. Too many conservatives have said "No more" and won't vote for the liberal republican. You can pitch a fit about it, and call people names, but you won't convince them to vote for your RINO.

/johnny

31 posted on 05/23/2014 7:47:04 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: All

I have the same problem every six years when McCain comes up. I can’t vote for the stupid token Democrat, but there is no way I can vote for McCain. I just leave it blank.


32 posted on 05/23/2014 7:47:09 PM PDT by Luke21
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To: Luke21

No. Mitch burned those bridges with gusto


33 posted on 05/23/2014 7:49:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: logic101.net

Mitch is not “we”


34 posted on 05/23/2014 7:51:09 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Voting out a liberal leader might make sense, but we already had our chance to vote in a conservative and lost. In other words, our current choice is between a liberal Republican leader and a statist Democrat. I agree that’s a real dilemma for someone who wants to push the country to the right, but I also don’t think Mitch is as liberal as you imply.

In what way will a Democrat in that seat give us a better chance than we already had (in the primary) of turning the country conservative? It’s a six year job. That’s a very long time for the Democrat to do damage, and we know that’s guaranteed. A Republican moderate (or liberal) will at least work with us some of the time.

BTW, we still have an opportunity to take down Thad Cochran, and that in itself would be a good reminder to the moderate wing to behave.


35 posted on 05/23/2014 7:52:08 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA

I vote neither


36 posted on 05/23/2014 7:53:01 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans!)
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To: Tupelo

Interesting. Have any of his judicial appointments been blocked?

Millions. That is why Reid has the Nuclear Option and getting every appointment through because McConnell and company were stoping all the appointments. Soon Reid will be doing that to bills. If we don’t get the Senate, Reid is going to have everything 50 votes to pass. It is going to be ugly.....but getting rid of McConnell seems to be more important.


37 posted on 05/23/2014 7:57:01 PM PDT by napscoordinator (Governor Scott Walker 2016 for the future of the country!)
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To: CitizenUSA
The liberal republican leader has enabled Reid's agenda. Mitch has already said he'll change the way the senate is run, if the pubs take the senate.

He'll allow the dems to bring up whatever amendments they want.

That's the damage he can do.

And your feelings don't matter. What matters is that you won't convince a LOT of conservatives to vote for Mitch after he burned so many bridges.

He won by 6% last general election, with a lousy Dem candidate. Grimes is a much better candidate. Couple that with conservatives that will remember that Mitch said he would destroy them when he found them, and I think Grimes will win in November anyway.

/johnny

38 posted on 05/23/2014 7:57:56 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

One other thing about this race. The media is saying it was a blow out for Mitch McConnell. That couldn’t be farther from the truth, because an incumbent Republican minority leader only got 60% of his own party’s vote? Given all the advantages of being not only an incumbent but a leader, the vote should have been more like 80%. Blevin got 35%, and that’s a very big block of Republican voters. If Mitch doesn’t convince the lion’s share of those to support him in the general election, his goose is cooked.


39 posted on 05/23/2014 7:58:36 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: CitizenUSA
John Cornyn won his primary, but he'll have to win or lose the general election without my vote. He's another liberal republican that supports Reid's agenda. And he's #2 in the senate republicans.

/johnny

40 posted on 05/23/2014 7:59:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Yep


41 posted on 05/23/2014 8:00:00 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

Why not? Its what leftwing Republicans have done like Dede Scozzafeva, Mike Castle, Virginia Republicans supported Mcauliff after opposing Cuccinelli and last there are Republicans politicians supporting Michelle Nunn!


42 posted on 05/23/2014 8:00:04 PM PDT by RginTN
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To: napscoordinator
Getting rid of McConnell seems very likely, considering that he won his last general election by only 6%, and Grimes is a much better candidate than the last Dem.

Telling conservatives that he was going to destroy them isn't going to win any votes from the base.

Only the fearful 'lesser evil' voters will vote for him.

/johnny

43 posted on 05/23/2014 8:01:49 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

Whether they join her or not, if they stay home in droves it will have the same effect

I kind of hope they all do go vote for the dimorat. That way the RINOs will KNOW that they can no longer take us for granted. If some of the dims did the same the country would be better for it.

We cannot go around talking about how the African American community is on a plantation voting for the rats who fail them all the time and then act the same way with our own side. Time to revolt at the ballot box. VOTE THE INCUMBENTS OUT.

No one should be in DC as a career (except maybe the cops)


44 posted on 05/23/2014 8:03:52 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: faucetman

I like it...a distinct call to action


45 posted on 05/23/2014 8:04:53 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: JRandomFreeper

Oh, I agree Mitch is very weak. Just like Romney, Mitch seems to reserve most of his ire for conservatives, and just like Romney, Mitch is going to have a very hard time convincing conservatives to vote from him in November.

That’s something I think is lost on the GOPe. They don’t understand that the moderate, even if they manage to beat us in the primaries, has to be conservative enough to inspire the base to vote. The Republican Party isn’t the moderate party. It’s generally a conservative party, and they need to meet us at least half way. They can’t continue to act like 90’s Democrats and get us to the polls.

Like I wrote earlier, I respect both approaches to this situation. Someone who votes for Mitch McConnell as the lesser of two evils is OK with me. Someone who refuses to vote for either is OK, too. I also like these discussions so long as they’re kept respectful. FReegards.


46 posted on 05/23/2014 8:05:49 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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To: JRandomFreeper

If the Democrats can get it to under 10%, they can steal it.


47 posted on 05/23/2014 8:07:02 PM PDT by sport
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To: CitizenUSA

To each his own. Rand Paul did not trash conservatives in KY.
McConnell did.
So why is McConnell hiding behind Paul to do his “peace” thing you
mention?

The fact is there is not enough Bushites like you in KY to save McConnell
if just a small percent of KY conservatives sit it out.

McConnell only won his last election by 6%.
6% is not much.
And that was BEFORE he trashed and then bragged about crushing
them.

I hope KY conservatives help McConnell apply for a job at Trent Lott’s
Lobbying Firm. We shall see won’t we?


48 posted on 05/23/2014 8:07:49 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: napscoordinator
“Millions.” ???????????????????

Little hyperbolic here aren’t we?

49 posted on 05/23/2014 8:10:29 PM PDT by Tupelo (I feel more like Philip Nolan every day)
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To: tennmountainman

I thought we were being respectful on this thread, and then you all me a Bushite. That there’s fighting words. Believe me. I think both Bushes were terrible presidents, but opposed to the likes of Gore and Kerry, I’ll take a Bush. Fight these battles in the primaries, but when it comes down to general elections, do whatever you think is best for the country. I choose to stall for time rather than immediate surrender (by electing Democrats). That’s my personal preference, and I’m entitled to it. You’re entitled to do what you think is best, too, and I refuse to demonize you for it. I only wish that respect went both ways.


50 posted on 05/23/2014 8:15:53 PM PDT by CitizenUSA (America for Americans first!)
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