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UKIP (UK "TEA PARTY") POISED FOR POSSIBLE FIRST PLACE FINISH IN EU PARLIAMENT ELECTIONS
5/24/2014 | Self

Posted on 05/24/2014 5:26:18 AM PDT by Nextrush

The pundits of England, like the BBC's Nick Robinson for example, have acknowledged an "earthquake" in the election results for local councils showing a big surge for the United Kingdom Independence Party.

But then they move on to say that UKIP is not going to control any of the councils, only got 17 percent of the popular vote while the Conservatives and Labour got more.

It reminds me of what a Democrat might have said in Texas in the mid-1960's. "The Republicans might have elected John Tower to the Senate, but we still control the Governor's office, the Lieutenant Governor's office, the state legislature and almost all the House seats...."

When a new party emerges into the political scene it emerges in the bigger national office races, not the local ones, then it takes over the state and local offices like Republicans have done in Texas in the years following the 1960's.

The truth about the local council elections is that UKIP could not field a candidate in every council area for the thousands of seats being contested. Its just not that well organized yet like the Republicans were not that well organized in Texas 50 years ago.

The real story of the Thursday vote is how well UKIP did in races it did contest like one Labour Party stronghold where it was capturing 30 percent of the popular vote.

Its that 30 percent UKIP support level that's been reflected in public opinion polls about the European Parliament Elections also held on Thursday, with results embargoed until other countries vote on Sunday.

UKIP is well enough organized now to contest nationwide for the EU Parliament seats and the polling suggests a likely first place finish over all the other political parties. Polls have shown anywhere from 27 to 38 percent popular vote support for UKIP. In the last election for the European Parliament, UKIP's share was 16.6 percent.

If that were reflected in next year's General Election for the House of Commons, there would be a hung parliament.

By the way, there is a special election for a House of Commons seat on June 5th. UKIP is contesting it and a victory in the EU elections could start a wave in that race.

Will UKIP get thirty percent of the popular vote and a proportional share of the UK's 78 seats in the European Parliament?

Tomorrow we will know the answer.


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Extended News; Foreign Affairs; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: nigelfarage; teaparty; texas; ukip

1 posted on 05/24/2014 5:26:18 AM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

The tea party needs an official party. No more Tea Party Express or Tea Party Patriots or the dozens of other groups that are far too ineffective and can easily be swept by the GOP and Dems.

Candidates need an actual structure they can attach themselves to and be supported by, and there has to be a filter so not just any nut (or plant) can run and call themselves the “tea party candidate”. And how can you expect/depend on a GOPer to be loyal to what is trying to hard to not exist in an official form? Why should they risk themselves for an amorphic blob movement that can appear strong one day and then vanish a week later?


2 posted on 05/24/2014 5:50:24 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: Nextrush
Daniel Hannan posted this on twitter a bit ago and its a good message for both parties in this country as well.

If you want to understand the appeal of @UKIP, read the smug, condescending "multi-culti London is still ours" Tweets from Labour.
3 posted on 05/24/2014 5:54:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Oh, The Guardian is full of smug articles about how advanced Londoners are compared to the knuckle-draggers in the rest of the country.


4 posted on 05/24/2014 6:13:41 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: miss marmelstein

I live the next county over from Ann Arbor and know all about smug self righteous marxists.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 6:18:55 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Nextrush

If England seals its borders, gets the hell out of the EU and starts standing up for its culture and values instead of kowtowing to its hoardes of Muslim invaders it just might have a future, and the United States might have at least one ally to help stand against the coming Islamic Republic of Europe.

It’s a long-shot, but this election gives me some hope.


6 posted on 05/24/2014 6:18:57 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: Junk Silver

Europe will not become Islamic—Germany will not let it happen. The UKIP is showing us the way. We need a Party like the UKIP here. One is being formed by the union of established 3rd Parties. The American Independent and Constutional Parties have merged in many states—they will be the form of the new reality. All it will take is someone with the Chops of a Sarah Palin to say the word and Liberty Party will be formed almost instanly. We need a Reagan or someone with his power to say the word. Are they out their? Yes. They will come forward and lead us to a new freedom.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 6:50:08 AM PDT by Forward the Light Brigade (Into the Jaws of H*ll)
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To: VanDeKoik

The problem is this, they are fighting the MSM and the GOP and the Demonkrats. It takes time to defeat the established goose steppers. Those that have been in power don’t want to give up their way of life.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 6:57:00 AM PDT by Busko (The only thing that is certain is that nothing is certain.)
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To: Nextrush

U.K. Tea Party. Who’da thunk it? The Brits finally got the message.


9 posted on 05/24/2014 7:04:16 AM PDT by shove_it (long ago Orwell and Rand warned us of Obama's America)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Yeah, Germany has a great track-record with regards to resisting tyrannical regimes.

I hope you are right about Europe not becoming Islamic, but from my point of view it’s simply a matter of biology and cultural confidence. The abortion/gay rights obsessed culture of Europe does not tend to promote childbearing, and the fertility rates of most Europeans are somewhere around 1.2 per couple. The Muslim immigrants to Europe have close to 4 children per couple.

In 2050 it’s estimated that there will be 100 million Muslims in Europe, and 100 million fewer native Europeans.

If these Muslim immigrants were assimilating into the Western cultural framework this might not be a big problem, but the undeniable fact is that Islam is insisting that Europe assimilate to it, and the worthless European technocrats are falling over themselves to surrender their societies.


10 posted on 05/24/2014 7:08:02 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: miss marmelstein

There is a similar screed this week in the Canadian Maclean’s magazine about how Americans are “dumb” for supporting conservatives. Typical leftist snobbery all over the world.


11 posted on 05/24/2014 7:14:16 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: VanDeKoik

The endless snickering at ordinary people coming from the mouths of the New Left makes me long for the bad old days of working-class leftists.

Actually, I hate all of the left.


12 posted on 05/24/2014 7:18:37 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: cripplecreek

And I live awfully close to the Upper West Side where even the hot dog vendors have left wing political bumper stickers on their carts.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 7:20:29 AM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Nextrush

What we tea party needs to do is to start not a third party but take over a third party. We need to gather and work out how we want the party to be run (do we want to be a small government party or a big government party. I want smaller, especially eliminating the departments of education, health and transportation and I don’t care about people’s lifestyle. That’s what liberals care about). We need to get people from the private sector (business owners, farmers, teachers and even stay at home moms - not lawyers!!) to run.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:56 AM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: Nextrush

Keep us posted.


15 posted on 05/24/2014 7:55:25 AM PDT by CPT Clay (Follow me on Twitter @Clay N TX)
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To: cripplecreek

I like the comparison w Texas and how it has changed since LBJ.
Slow and steady, change will happen once the people wake up.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 8:01:53 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: Zathras

We’re moving Michigan to the right, inch by painful inch.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 8:04:04 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Nextrush
A hung Parliament seems unlikely. Newly reported exit polling indicates that David Cameron is clearly preferred by voters as Prime Minister, with the Tories apparently getting credit for the recent growth of Britain's economy.

Cameron is therefore brushing aside suggestions that the Tories align their MP candidate selection with UKIP. The Tories plainly calculate the odds as being that the next Commons general election will result in them securing an outright governing majority, or at least the largest party and able to dominate any ensuing coalition government.

There is much to dislike in Cameron's elitism, support for uncontrolled immigration, and betrayal of traditional conservative values. Yet that does not mean that a deserved comeuppance from the voters is imminent. Although UKIP has made stunning gains as a protest party, it has not yet developed into a potential governing party -- a transition that is harder to make than is commonly realized.

18 posted on 05/24/2014 8:06:21 AM PDT by Rockingham
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To: shove_it

UKIP predates the Tea Party by years.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 8:17:40 AM PDT by I am Richard Brandon
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To: Nextrush
It would also seem fairly logical that some people, who would not want to vote for a party (primarily focused on international questions) to fill a local council seat, mighty very well vote for that party to represent them at the EU level. Let us, at least hope that such considerations might further boost the showing by British patriots.

For myself, I shall pray, this Memorial Day weekend, not only for those still willing to stand for traditional America, but for all people in the civilized world, who are willing to stand up to preserve the traditional achievements of their respective nations--certainly including their traditional cultures.

It is the great fallacy of the crack-pot internationalists, that the only way to World Peace is by destroying the ethnic achievements of the earth's peoples. Nations proud of their ancestral achievements are far more likely to see the sense of dealing with other proud peoples on the basis of mutual respect, than are the compulsion driven internationalists--who do not respect their own heritages--likely to respect anyone else's.

The internationalist future should have ended at Babel, with other humanist absurdities. That so many educated people have bought into the humanist or collectivist/egalitarian fallacies, is a tragedy of immense proportions.

William Flax

20 posted on 05/24/2014 8:35:31 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: cripplecreek; NattieShea
We’re moving Michigan to the right, inch by painful inch.

Well, in four more weeks you're gaining another FReeper.

21 posted on 05/24/2014 9:01:40 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Ohioan

Excellent comments, very well said and I agree 100%.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 9:02:59 AM PDT by little jeremiah (Courage is not simply one of the virtues, but the form of every virtue at the testing point. CSLewis)
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To: Junk Silver
"the worthless European technocrats are falling over themselves to surrender their societies."

I would suggest that the surrender of heritage can be traced to the same compulsion driven false values, being promoted by Leftist ideologues both here & there, as has been producing a similar effect in America. While the EU was sold as a great economic boon, it has very deliberately gone well beyond anything necessary to the promotion of trade & prosperity.

Back some years ago, I tried to point out the absurd course onto which it had deviated: Open Letter To Conservatives Of Europe.

The deviation was not a reflection of anything "technical," or rational, or even balanced.

23 posted on 05/24/2014 9:12:56 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: Carry_Okie
My new neighbor is a retiree from Ohio. I can tell he's enjoying his retired life. I see him out on his dock every morning with his feel up just watching the wildlife.

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24 posted on 05/24/2014 9:15:14 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: little jeremiah

Thanks!


25 posted on 05/24/2014 9:15:37 AM PDT by Ohioan
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To: cripplecreek
My new neighbor is a retiree from Ohio. I can tell he's enjoying his retired life. I see him out on his dock every morning with his feel up just watching the wildlife.

Nice mosquito habitat. :-) Fish food. I expect she'll be happy there as long as she finds a group with which to dance.

26 posted on 05/24/2014 9:21:17 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: Carry_Okie

It was your daughter going to MSU wasn’t it?


27 posted on 05/24/2014 9:23:56 AM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: cripplecreek

Yep. She’s hustling a lab job now, and looking for a group with which to dance.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 9:44:36 AM PDT by Carry_Okie (The tree of liberty needs a rope.)
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To: VanDeKoik

I agree that the tea party, in order to become effective, needs it’s own official party. The problem it faces, though, is that the uniparty has feathered its nest very well and made it virtually impossible to challenge their hegemony. It’s not an exaggeration to say that the uniparty controls who gets to vote, what parties and names can be on the ballot , what the rules are for running the election, and ultimately the uniparty counts the votes. That said, our history does have one example of a third party replacing an existing party. It last happened in the 1850s with the gop replacing the Whigs.

For myself, I just don’t think electoral politics offer us much. I want some bang for the buck. I think an underlying issue that hampers conservatives is that we’re spread too thin. So I favor a migratIon and concentration of conservatives approach over fighting what is usually a rearguard action against the uniparty and it’s cronies.

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Fun NH fact: the NH legislature is the largest in the US, representing roughly 1.3 million people. Legislators receive the princely salary of $100 per year for their service.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 11:05:14 AM PDT by RKBA Democrat (Relocate and Dominate: freestateproject.org)
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To: VanDeKoik

right. but that means we need a farage.


30 posted on 05/24/2014 1:14:57 PM PDT by dadfly
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

Perhaps a United States Independence Party would be in order.

Sarah Palin has been sitting out most races where a RINO incumbent Senator is involved like McConnell in KY and Graham in SC.

She needs to get more involved against incumbent RINO’s for starters, then consider the Third Party option if things keep going the way they are.

As it stands, I can’t vote for 95 percent of the Republicans currently in office or running for office.

They fake conservatism at best.

I wrote in more names than I voted for in the GOP Primary here in Pennsylvania last Tuesday.


31 posted on 05/24/2014 5:40:22 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: dadfly

Cruz and Palin are going neutral in Senate races involving RINO incumbent RINO’s like Mitch McConnell and Lindsay Graham.

If they don’t get on the stick soon perhaps we will need a Nigel Farage here and a new political party.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 5:45:09 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: Nextrush

i don’t know if God will allow us our own party at this point.

but if He does, i have a feeling it will originate with a person outside the republican party: from a completely independent conservative or even from a source completely unexpected. such is how He works.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 7:10:31 PM PDT by dadfly
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