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Mark Cuban and the dangerous trap of truth: Comments about Sterling opened up a bigger can of worms
Hotair ^ | 05/23/2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:43:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Mark Cuban has probably opened up a bigger can of worms than even he could have imagined when he decided to have a rather frank discussion on people’s preconceived notions.

“I mean, we’re all prejudiced in one way or another,” he said. “If I see a black kid in a hoodie and it’s late at night, I’m walking to the other side of the street. And if on that side of the street there’s a guy that has tattoos all over his face – white guy, bald head, tattoos everywhere – I’m walking back to the other side of the street. And the list goes on of stereotypes we all live up to and are fearful of.”

This, of course, set off the usual alarm bells with our nation’s keepers of the watchful flame of racial tensions. Finally they had it on the record. Mark Cuban is obviously a racist! Sure, some of the chief monitors of all thing race card related, such as Travis Waldron at Check Your Privilege Central, were willing to slide a smidgen of credit toward Cuban for admitting he’s a despicable monster, but he still had to ask The Big Question: does he still cross the street?

When CNN’s Don Lemon dared to wonder exactly what it was that Cuban should be apologizing for, he was quickly swatted down by Marc Lamont Hill and Sunny Hostin. Our own Katie Pavlich felt the sting of Mediaite’s hall monitors when she suggested that she might cross the street herself in certain circumstances. Said monitors were also quick to note that Cuban felt compelled to apologize to the family of Trayvon Martin for mentioning the word “hoodie.”

This brings up two questions – one relatively minor and the other having more far reaching implications – which merit attention.

First, and of far less import, is a question of sartorial style. Since when does the entire planet apparently owe a mea culpa to the legacy of Trayvon Martin for saying hoodie? I’ve got news for you.. the rest of the world is still allowed to talk about people wearing hoodies in whatever context they wish. If they are common in high crime areas and you find them unsettling, you are free to be unsettled. (As a startling side note, I have a black hoodie and wear it every spring and fall. It has a graphic of a loon on it – I mean the bird, not Nancy Pelosi – and I find it comfortable. But I’m sure I’m unsettling to a lot of people also.)

But the second, and larger issue here has to do with this fundamental concept of people crossing the street. I was reminded of a rather eerie parallel while reading the interview conducted by Don Lemon which I linked above. For the last couple of years I’ve had to do a lot of traveling in the “deep South” as it’s called – particularly through the Appalachian Mountains – and gotten to know some of these areas pretty well. I’ve learned that once you get outside the clearly defined borders of a couple of cities down there you immediately enter into more mountainous, less populated areas which some natives affectionately refer to as the hollers, or simply, out in the county.

There are, to assign a charitable name, “towns” out in some of these backwaters, populated almost entirely by white people. Small collections of houses and trailers are interrupted by the occasional dimly lit bar with country music blaring out the windows and a collection of bikes and pickup trucks with gun racks and frequent confederate flag NRA (Edit *) bumper stickers in the parking lot. I find myself wondering… if Marc Lamont Hill or Sunny Hostin had the misfortune of encountering car trouble in one of these hamlets and found themselves walking toward a service station past one of these bars where some guys with Duck Dynasty beards were hanging outside swilling Budweisers, would they cross the street? And if so, would that make them racists?

Conversely, we have areas near me, even in the “blue” regions of upstate New York, where what we laughably refer to as “cities” contain neighborhoods which generate a lot of law enforcement issues. The cops are there all the time and the police blotters ring up unseemly numbers of busts for drugs, assaults, prostitution and theft. And, yes, they are almost entirely populated by minorities on any given evening. Then I look at the picture of Travis Waldron, who reminds me somewhat of myself at a younger age, mostly for seeming to have the street cred of a Miracle Whip sandwich on Wonder Bread. If Travis were wandering through one of these neighborhoods on a Saturday night and approaching a group of young black men in hoodies standing on the corner, would he rush up and ask, “Say! Would you fellas like to tip off to Starbucks with me, slip on some pajamas, drink some hot cocoa and rap about the future of race relations in America?”

Or might he cross the street as well? If it was me in that situation, I wouldn’t be crossing the street. I’d be turning around and exiting as quickly as possible because I’d have made a very wrong turn at some point in my travels. This isn’t a question of prejudice. It’s an issue of common sense and self-preservation. And this entire conversation about Mark Cuban and his so-called racist tendencies is a farce. But as a businessman, Cuban clearly has learned that you can’t go around saying something obvious if it’s politically unpalatable to the Left. That’s just bad for business.

EDIT: (Jazz) A commenter pointed out that in the hypothetical example above, the presence of confederate flag bumper stickers could carry a connotation of racism. I tend to disagree since, having spent a fair amount of time in the South, I’ve become friends with several people who proudly fly the stars and bars but are about as far from being racists as one could imagine. They’re just proud of their Southern heritage. Still, rather than provide fodder to those seeking to derail the conversation, I would substitute NRA stickers. If you choose to next argue that being a member of the National Rifle Association somehow carries with it an implicit charge of racism, feel free, but I’ll pretty much have stopped listening by that point.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: davidsterling; markcuban; prejudice; racism

1 posted on 05/24/2014 6:43:12 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind
Ha haaaa!!!

As if Mark Cuban is ever without a contingent of armed guards who clear his path for him on the rare occasions he's ever on the same sidewalk as a black yoot wearing a hoodie.

2 posted on 05/24/2014 6:46:52 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

Too me a while to realize that “hoodie” referred to an article of clothing, not a person who lives in certain area. I need to keep up with the current language.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 6:53:16 AM PDT by Bernard (The Road To Hell is not paved with good results.)
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To: SeekAndFind
That's nothin', Mark.

During DemocRAT Conventions, the RATS put up 12 foot high chain link fences and clear the streets of hoodies for a half-mile around.

4 posted on 05/24/2014 6:55:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

The truth is offensive.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 6:55:50 AM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: SeekAndFind
I'm happy Cuban spoke up. I'm sorry he felt it necessary to apologize to Trayvon Martin's sperm donor and egg receptacle.
6 posted on 05/24/2014 6:56:25 AM PDT by fatnotlazy
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To: SeekAndFind

I don’t know. Is it wrong that I enjoy watching Liberals get caught up in the web of political correctness they’ve helped create and getting eaten by their own?


7 posted on 05/24/2014 7:11:17 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SeekAndFind

If theres a big white guy wearing a hoodie and a small black guy wearing a suit on opposite sides of the street. I’ll walk on the same side as the black guy. OMG, thats racism!


8 posted on 05/24/2014 7:12:10 AM PDT by 4rcane
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To: BinaryBoy

But I’m not offended by it at all.

The truth isn’t offensive, the truth is simply the truth.


9 posted on 05/24/2014 7:35:27 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Texas Eagle
As if Mark Cuban is ever without a contingent of armed guards who clear his path for him on the rare occasions he's ever on the same sidewalk as a black yoot wearing a hoodie.

Cuban's limo, pulls up to the front of any entrance to any place he wants to go, and six, ex-Navy Seals, armed to the teeth, stand, shoulder to shoulder, and provide 99.99% cover for his rich ass {that's OK by me}.

If a black guy wearing a hoody is getting into that place, chances are 7 out of 10 that they are one of Mark Cuban's players.

10 posted on 05/24/2014 7:41:55 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: Texas Eagle

I don’t know if it’s wrong. I just know you’re not alone in your thinking!


11 posted on 05/24/2014 7:43:20 AM PDT by FES0844
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To: SeekAndFind

About 15 years ago I spent a lot of time traveling around N. America teaching 3 and 4 day classes. In the evenings I’d often be restless, so I’d go for long walks.

Took off down the highway from my hotel in St. Petersburg, and eventually wound up in the depths of the hood well after dark. Got several offers for sale of illegal substances and questionable personal services.

Kept going till I got to a convenience store, still in the hood, and decided I’d call a cab to get back.

Called the company, described my location. They said it would be less than 10 minutes. Called back twice more over the next hour. They kept saying a cab would be along momentarily. I kept seeing empty cabs go by.

Called back the third time, explained to the dispatcher that the driver would be able to pick me out because I was the only white guy there. Less than five minute, a cab pulls up.

Driver is a big black guy. He said a couple of cabbies had been killed picking up fares in that neighborhood in the previous year, both of them black, and none of the cabbies would pick up black people there after dark. And completely unapologetic about it.


12 posted on 05/24/2014 7:57:00 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: chris37

Of course the truth is sometimes (often) offensive.

But that’s the fault of the offended person, not of the truth or the person stating it.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 7:57:53 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: SeekAndFind
If you choose to next argue that being a member of the National Rifle Association somehow carries with it an implicit charge of racism, feel free

Everyone know "NRA" really stands for National Racist Association just like everyone knows "NBA" really stands for National Bigots Association.

Everyone knows "everyone" needs to get their heads straight and stop being so inherently racist or they will be in BIG trouble!

14 posted on 05/24/2014 7:58:49 AM PDT by Gritty (Climate hysterics shriek on. Loud and apocalyptic is the only setting on the machine.-Mark Steyn)
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To: SeekAndFind
We make choices everyday to discriminate between say grabbing a knife by the sharp end or the handle, is that lightning or a lightning bug, does your dog bite, should I drink gator-aid or swim in the everglades, or start a war in a far away Indonesian country?

Discrimination is a God given right like freedom of religion, speech, bear arms, association.

I may not agree with your discrimination but I will fight to the death for your right to discriminate.

Freedom of discrimination, not from discrimination.

15 posted on 05/24/2014 7:59:06 AM PDT by urbanpovertylawcenter (the law and poverty collide in an urban setting and sparks fly)
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To: SeekAndFind

Will Cuban be a man- or will he end up making a pathetic a** of himself on national TV by whining, sniveling and begging Holder’s people for forgiveness like Sterling and Paula Deen?
If you can’t stand by your convictions, then keep your d*mn piehole shut.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 8:12:07 AM PDT by patriot08 (NATIVE TEXAN (girl type))
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To: SeekAndFind

Why don’t they ask the black players how they feel about the few white players in the league?


17 posted on 05/24/2014 8:29:11 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: Bushbacker1
Why don’t they ask the black OWNERS how they feel about the few white players in the league?

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May 2, 2014, - 10:50 am Black NBA Owner Held Black Only Party, Whites Turned Away; NBA Did Nothing

By Debbie Schlussel

In the wake of this week’s NBA proposed lifetime ban and $2.5 million fine for Donald Sterling, a longtime reader reminded me that I’d written about another NBA owner, a Black man, who held a party in which Whites were refused entry and turned away. And, yet, the NBA did nothing.

As I’ve already pointed out, Black racism and bigotry against Whites, Jews, Mormons, and gays is tolerated by the NBA. But a private racist conversation by a White owner is not. And here is an instance of a Black then-NBA owner whose public, deliberate racism was tolerated and ignored. Jay-Z a/k/a Shawn Carter was an owner of the Brooklyn Nets, an NBA Team, from 2003 through mid-April 2013. But, as I noted on this site, in February 2010, Jay-Z held a lavish party at the Merah club in central London, and banned White people from attending. The party, for music industry executives, reporters, and other Jay-Z ass-kissers was for Blacks only. Bouncers were instructed to refuse entry to Whites.

Reader Chris reminded me that I’d written about this, and noted:

Wasn’t Jay-Z part owner of Brooklyn/New Jersey Nets when he threw that racist party you wrote about? I don’t remember any NBA controversy over that.

I don’t either, but here’s a reminder from my 2010 post, “More Obama ‘Post-Racialism’ Courtesy of Jay-Z“:

Jay-Z was caught up in a race row when bouncers at his BRITs after-show party “banned” white people from boozing with the star. Chart legend Jay-Z threw a lavish bash but music industry executives, journalists and revellers were turned away from the roped-off area because of the colour of their skin.

18 posted on 05/24/2014 8:39:37 AM PDT by Neidermeyer
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To: SeekAndFind

I love Mark Cuban.

I think he said it about right.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 8:43:59 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: USS Alaska
If a black guy wearing a hoody is getting into that place, chances are 7 out of 10 that they are one of Mark Cuban's players.

Okay. I'm stealing that.

I may or may not give you credit. Just kidding. Of course I won't give you credit.

20 posted on 05/24/2014 9:17:21 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: chris37

Correction: The truth is offensive to liberals when it pierces the delusions of their politically correct minds.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 9:36:51 AM PDT by BinaryBoy ("Immigration Reform" is ballot stuffing)
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To: Neidermeyer

I get on sports forums where of course, one of the main topics of late has been Donald Sterling and his remarks. Numerous posters, including myself, have brought up racist actions by well known blacks (Spike Lee, Jay-Z) similar to Sterling’s. So far I’ve never gotten an answer back. Because there is a double standard. Blacks cannot be guilty of racism according to many posters. Or their racist actions are completely ignored.


22 posted on 05/24/2014 10:43:05 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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To: BinaryBoy

No, in that case truth hurts.

But it isn’t offensive, and they aren’t offended.

Rather, it’s just more of their usual false and manufactured outrage which is designed to serve a specific purpose, and that purpose is to advance their agenda.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 11:18:52 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Sherman Logan

Can’t agree. Truth is neutral. Truth simply is.

If a person reacts to truth by being offended, then that person is not capable of logical rational thought, but rather only irrational emotionalism.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 11:22:02 AM PDT by chris37 (heartless)
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To: Neidermeyer

Thanks for posting.


25 posted on 05/25/2014 5:39:12 AM PDT by Bushbacker1 (Molon Labe! (Oathkeeper))
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To: driftless2
Stephen A. Smith comments on Cuban and prejudice are interesting.
26 posted on 05/28/2014 5:08:06 AM PDT by alrea (So the darkness shall be the light, and the stillness the dancing. T. S. Eliot)
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To: alrea

That’s a good video by Smith. Would that any black kids watching follow what he said.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 6:51:56 AM PDT by driftless2 (For long term happiness, learn how to play the accordion.)
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