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California mom arrested in killing of 3 girls
Associated Press ^

Posted on 05/24/2014 7:09:05 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement

TORRANCE, Calif. (AP) — Several knives were recovered at a gruesome scene in Southern California where a mother was arrested in the killing of her three young daughters and taken from the scene covered in blood and wearing only a blanket, authorities and witnesses said. But it's not clear how the three girls, who ranged in age from 3 years to 2 months old, were killed, Los Angeles County sheriff's Lt. Dave Coleman said.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; US: California
KEYWORDS: coronado; murder
Knives.
1 posted on 05/24/2014 7:09:06 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement
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To: ConservativeStatement

Postpartum Depression untreated...into psychosis.
Very tragic. where was the family?


2 posted on 05/24/2014 7:13:57 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ConservativeStatement

She’s not guilty. The only reason any mother would do such a thing is post-partum depression. /s

I’m always surprised by how many people spring to the defense of a mother accused of killing her children. With agonizing over “what could have driven her to this?”

Meanwhile, if a father does the same, the implicit assumption is that he was NOT “driven to it.”

Just saying.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 7:14:26 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

The UK Daily Mail has more info:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2637996/Wwoman-accused-stabbing-death-three-daughters-tried-kill-mother-revealed-husband-says-just-wants-help.html

Husband Rodolfo was outside working on his car when the killings occurred. Relatives of his told the Daily Breeze that he ‘doesn’t want anybody throwing the book at her’ by condemning her to death or a life behind bars - ‘he wants her to get help.’


4 posted on 05/24/2014 7:15:28 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
"Neighbors say the mother, identified by authorities as 30-year-old Carol Coronado, was taken from the scene covered in blood and naked except for a blanket."

Mental.

5 posted on 05/24/2014 7:15:32 AM PDT by Enterprise ("Those who can make you believe absurdities can make you commit atrocities." Voltaire)
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To: ConservativeStatement

What does he want, a parade in her honor?


6 posted on 05/24/2014 7:32:37 AM PDT by Mouton (The insurrection laws perpetuate what we have for a government now.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Madrid said the children’s grandmother had told her that her daughter called her earlier in the day and said she was going crazy.”

Tragic...


7 posted on 05/24/2014 7:35:20 AM PDT by Innovative ("Winning isn't everything, it's the only thing." -- Vince Lombardi)
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To: Sherman Logan

The Demoncrats’ War on Babies continues.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 7:37:00 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement
I recognize the existence of post-partum depression and its potential to stress a mother sufficiently to induce psychosis.

I just would like to note that fathers can also be under intense stress, if not for the exact same reason, and nobody ever assumes that a family-killing father must have been "driven to it."

9 posted on 05/24/2014 7:40:14 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ConservativeStatement

She killed babies and if you are against that liberals will classify you as a participant in the “War against Women”


10 posted on 05/24/2014 7:40:37 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: ConservativeStatement

Right, it was the knife’s fault. Ban knives!


11 posted on 05/24/2014 7:40:47 AM PDT by Shimmer1 (The love that dare not speak its name is now the love that will not shut its *bleeping* mouth)
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To: Sherman Logan

You’re right.


12 posted on 05/24/2014 7:41:16 AM PDT by vladimir998
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To: ConservativeStatement

Exactly. Hey she is just practicing “A womans right to choose”.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 7:42:21 AM PDT by GrandJediMasterYoda (Hitlery: Incarnation of evil.)
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To: Sherman Logan

I wish I had Jack Levin’s (Criminologist) exact words but I saw him interviewed a few years ago and he stated in his experiences people look for ways to find women innocent in these instances when the same approach doesn’t hold for men who commit similar acts.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 7:43:22 AM PDT by ConservativeStatement ("World Peace 1.20.09.")
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To: ConservativeStatement

Right.

People look for ways to excuse a mother of responsibility.

They carefully avoid seeing similar excuses for a father.


15 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:01 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Right there, the husband was across the street One of the grandmas was right there. I can’t figure out which one.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:33 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ConservativeStatement

“Coronado was arrested Tuesday on suspicion of murder, taken to a hospital for examination and then to a sheriff’s station for booking. Authorities say she made no statement.”

“Madrid (neighbor) said the children’s grandmother told her that the woman had called earlier in the day and said that she was going crazy.”

Let’s see now. Earlier in the day she tells neighbor she’s going crazy. Then she kills the children. And, since being arrested, she has made no statements.

Sounds to me like a premeditated killing.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 8:00:00 AM PDT by Finalmente
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To: ConservativeStatement

This isn’t a tragedy. This is a shocking and horrific crime that staggers the mind.


18 posted on 05/24/2014 8:15:13 AM PDT by Oratam
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To: Finalmente

Hey. Maybe such things are normal in her native land. Where’s your cultural sensitivity????


19 posted on 05/24/2014 8:15:54 AM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void

Such things are normal in her native land, USA, abortion capital of the world


20 posted on 05/24/2014 8:39:14 AM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: ConservativeStatement

All murder is sick. I don’t see any difference between people driven to murder by jealousy, passion, greed, postpartum, etc. It’s all the same, and they should all be punished.

When you are defending the liberty and property of yourself and your loved ones, that’s not murder, it is justified killing.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 8:46:09 AM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: ConservativeStatement

They call it post birth abortion

The woman has the right to not have her life quality reduced by sniveling kids/


22 posted on 05/24/2014 8:46:20 AM PDT by bert ((K.E. N.P. N.C. +12 ..... History is a process, not an event)
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To: ConservativeStatement

http://www.dailybreeze.com/general-news/20140522/weeping-mother-said-she-was-tired-just-hours-before-daughters-were-found-slain


23 posted on 05/24/2014 9:09:32 AM PDT by Dawggie
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To: Enterprise

Mental. So suddenly or chronically? Why would anyone KEEP IMPREGNATING a mentally ill woman? She should be tried and executed and he should be sterilized.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 9:28:07 AM PDT by ClearBlueSky (When anyone says its not about Islam...it's about Islam. That death cult must be eradicated.)
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To: Sherman Logan

Fathers—men- do not suffer from post partum depression which includes major hormonal changes that mya occur during pregnancy and giving birth.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 9:34:00 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Born to Conserve

Well...now, let see...it appears you have just gone back to the dark ages..psychosis is demon possession, and clinical or post partum depression, well we can just lock them away in an insane asylum.

There is a difference when there is brain dysfunction or psychosis( as occurrs in postpartum depression)..it is medical, physiological not just “ emotional” in the normal sense.

How about you all do just even the smallest amount of research into mental illness before you start posting.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 9:38:48 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Oratam

It IS a tragedy because had the woman received medical help this wouldn’t maybe have happened. There are many women who have serious post partum depression, but get treatment from their doctors and thus do not go into a full blown psychosis and kill their children.

Denying the existence of this disorder, or calling it “just another crime that was ‘chosen’” just keeps people ignorant about the disorder and less likely for the woman to get help or her family getting her help..Now THAT is the real tragedy.


27 posted on 05/24/2014 9:42:15 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: ClearBlueSky

Andrea Yates husband kept getting her pregnant when all the doctors told him NOT to go ahead with more pregnancies.

If we are going to execute this woman, then lets execute all her family members who did not intervene. Now that would be fair.DUH.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 9:44:07 AM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Correct.

However, is it impossible that men, father, can be under sufficient stress to induce similar psychotic breaks?

Why do we just assume a killer mother is not responsible for her actions, but that a killer father is?


29 posted on 05/24/2014 10:13:45 AM PDT by Sherman Logan
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To: ConservativeStatement

I know there are psychiatrists and psychologists and other assorted professionals that love to conjure up all kinds of alphabet abbreviations for various afflictions of the human mind. And, to be certain, doing so contributes to the professions cash flow. I got all that!

The facts don’t change though just because they slap a post partum analysis on this woman overnight.

She butchered her own 3 babies. The question is not “is she insane”? That she is is clear as the driven snow and in her case her insanity is irreparable.

Some would say that society should house, clothe and feed her, and pay Psychiatrists and Psychologists to dote over her for the next 50 years ala Charles Manson.

I don’t agree.

The question is what to do with her.

Manson cost millions and millions to imprison all these years. As a society, we are broke! So, my question is ........”Is our society as insane as this woman for spending billions on the Manson’s of the world?”


30 posted on 05/24/2014 10:29:52 AM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Murder is murder. It is always insane. I don’t need some pile of stinking psychologists to tell me they should be payed to hold their hands.


31 posted on 05/24/2014 1:48:59 PM PDT by Born to Conserve
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To: Recovering Ex-hippie

Three children. At some point she must’ve realized what she was doing. She kept killing. The very thought of a knife gives me chills. She had no such qualms.


32 posted on 05/24/2014 6:13:16 PM PDT by Oratam
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To: Sherman Logan

Part of that is because post-partum depression is chemical imbalance of the brain, due to the various pregnancy related physical changes in the female brain/body.

That’s not exactly the same as a man snapping due to external stressors of failed relationships, job losses, money troubles or addiction issues.

Apples and oranges.


33 posted on 05/24/2014 6:35:27 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Sherman Logan
There's nothing in the article posted that even discusses the motives or reasons for these murders, much less post-partum stress, father's stress, or anything else. Right now all we know is that 3 babies are dead and their own mother killed them. Tragic.

But to deny post-partum depression and psychosis exist puts one into the Tom Cruise realm.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 6:41:05 PM PDT by workerbee (The President of the United States is DOMESTIC ENEMY #1!)
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To: Cen-Tejas

Post-Partum depression is not irreparable. It is entirely treatable and is frequently self-repairing and requires close monitoring to make sure it doesn’t downward spiral into a psychosis that results in murder or suicide.


35 posted on 05/24/2014 6:42:49 PM PDT by Valpal1 (If the police can t solve a problem with violence, they ll find a way to fix it with brute force)
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To: Valpal1

a reasoned response. thanks.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 7:12:01 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Oratam

If she was having a psychotic episode, she was disconnected from reality completely....who knows what her mind was telling her?


37 posted on 05/24/2014 7:13:08 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Cen-Tejas

Manson was not psychotic..he was a sociopath who knew exactly what he was doing. a sociopath is sane, but evil.
Manson was very much in touch with reality.Evil, lacking normal social ability to related to others in a normal way...but NOT psychotic.


38 posted on 05/24/2014 7:16:12 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Born to Conserve

we have come a long way in the treatment of mental illness. with therapy and medications, most people with some sort of mental illness can now lead normal, decent happy lives...But then, why don’t we just throw all that away and if someone gets depressed or anxious, just tell them to pray harder and then lock them away...no need to hold their hands.

I think you might feel differently if one of your relatives were sick, had emotional problems. I think you would want them to get help.

Fortuantely YOU don’t get to decide who has a mental problem and needs treatment and who is just “bad”. Otherwise we might be like the soviet Union or China who just lock up people who are sick and those who aren’t.


39 posted on 05/24/2014 7:21:23 PM PDT by Recovering Ex-hippie
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To: Valpal1

Thanks for your thoughtful response. And, I would not tonight take exception to your “general” statement. Moreover your statement in some cases might be applicable.

But, this homo sapien killed three babies. Myself, and I suspect millions like me, believe she is not NOW subject to any “clinical” diagnosis. We AGREE, without reservation, that she is insane. So, shrinks go home. We don’t need you!

So, please, let’s get past all that and on to “what do we now do with this piece of flesh?” You feel sorry for her and analyze her all you want. We just want to discuss what society should do with her?!


40 posted on 05/24/2014 9:38:51 PM PDT by Cen-Tejas (it's the debt bomb stupid!)
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