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Climate Blues: How Environmentalists Chill Out in a Warming World
NBC News ^ | May 24, 2014 | BY MIGUEL LLANOS

Posted on 05/24/2014 8:51:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer

Studies warning of an Antarctic ice sheet collapse. A wildfire season that could shatter records. Shellfish eaten away by oceans turned more acidic due to greenhouse gases. U.N. and U.S. reports stating that climate change is advancing more quickly.

Everyone gets down about their work from time to time, but for environmentalists, they can sometimes quite literally be dealing with the end of the world as we know it.

“It’s hard to stay perky when scientists conclude that tragedy, such as the loss of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is inevitable,” says Denis Hayes, a veteran activist who co-founded Earth Day in 1970.

“The scale of the mess we’re in, environmentally, is enough to push anyone to the edge of their sanity,” adds Dougald Hine, co-founder of The Dark Mountain Project, a group of activists fully expecting ecological, and social, collapse across the planet.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: climatechange; climategate; globalwarming; glowbullwarming; hoax; journalism; socialism

1 posted on 05/24/2014 8:51:36 AM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The scale of the mess we’re in, environmentally, is enough to push anyone to the edge of their sanity,

NOW.....if the man had stated that “The scale of the mess we’re in, environmentally, is enough to push anyone to the edge of ..... sanity, Id roundly applaud this situation,,,,,


2 posted on 05/24/2014 8:56:21 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

The eco-lunatics are getting more and more desperate, and so long as they get support from the media and the left, are likely to become more and more violent.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 8:57:32 AM PDT by Spok ("What're you going to believe-me or your own eyes?" -Marx (Groucho))
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Global Sea Ice Skyrocketing
May 23, 2014
http://sunshinehours.wordpress.com/tag/global-sea-ice/
Global Sea Ice Extent is 913,000 sq km above the 1981-2010 mean and is well above the one standard deviation mark.

Good Morning Kirkwood(,CA)!
May 21, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/good-morning-kirkwood/
We were greeted with fresh May snow this morning! Unofficially I’d say 3 to 4 inches on the ground when I arrived around 8am.

Kalte Sonne (Cold Sun) – Many scientists now forecast cooling, perhaps an ice age
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/kalte-sonne-cold-sun-scientists-forecast-cooling-ice-age/

Antarctic Sea-Ice Coverage Continues Breaking Records
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/antarctic-sea-ice-coverage-continues-breaking-records/

Vail, Colorado – Looks like middle January
May 18, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/vail-colorado-middle-january/

Heavy snowfall in Serbia – In mid-May
May 18, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/heavy-snowfall-serbia-mid-may/

Ice on Lake Superior now higher than anytime in past 40 years
May 18, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/ice-lake-superior-higher-anytime-40-years/

Rockford, Illinois, breaks snowfall record
May 18, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/rockford-illinois-breaks-snowfall-record/

Austin shatters record low temp by 8 degrees
May 17, 2014
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/austin-shatters-record-temp-8-degrees/

Headed Into Grand Minimum, Says Solar Physicist
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/headed-grand-minimum-solar-physicist/

Nisqually Glacier (Mt. Rainier, WA) Growing Thicker – Video
http://iceagenow.info/2014/05/nisqually-glacier-growing-thicker/

Piers Corbyn: The Reality of Long Range Weather and Climate Forecasting | EU2014
April 29, 2014
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6R26PXRrgds
Around the 41 minute mark you’ll see what he is predicting for the next 20 years - a drastic drop in global temperature.


4 posted on 05/24/2014 8:57:39 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Who knew that liberals were ever “Perky”?
They seem perpetually ticked off to me.

Always have a bee in their bonnet about something.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 8:58:25 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“It’s hard to stay perky when scientists conclude that tragedy, such as the loss of the West Antarctic Ice Sheet, is inevitable,” says Denis Hayes, a veteran activist who co-founded Earth Day in 1970.

Herein lies the problem for the environmentalist these days, and this is likely to be one of several important factors in the demise of the whole movement. Once you convince people that something is "inevitable," you've effectively told them that it's a waste of time to even give a damn about it anymore. I suspect this is one reason why environmental issues are never important to most people.

6 posted on 05/24/2014 8:59:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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7 posted on 05/24/2014 9:02:54 AM PDT by DJ MacWoW (The Fed Gov is not one ring to rule them all)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

And for the rest of us who know that anthropogenic global warming is a massive scientific fraud (now renamed “climate change” since warming didn’t happen), the worry is not so much.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 9:07:30 AM PDT by catnipman (Cat Nipman: Vote Republican in 2012 and only be called racist one more time!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
The issue is not “global warming”. The issue is the CAUSE of global warming. The flawed argument isn’t necessarily that there’s such a thing a “global warming” or that it may be happening now. The flawed argument is, “We have a global warming problem and, therefore, government must do whatever it has to do [more interference with individuals’ freedoms] to stop it.” It’s a flawed argument because it contains an unproven and flawed “stealth” presumption that man must be the cause of global warming.

The Left wants the debate kept at whether there’s global warming. We need to turn the debate away from that somewhat silly argument. The argument about scientific data and evidence of whether or not "global warming" exists can go on from now 'till Moses. (The Bible does indicate a warm-up and a rising sea in the last days.) It is really beside the point. The more the Right argues this wrong point, the sillier the Right potentially looks and the stronger this oft-unspoken presumption of man-made causes seems to get.

Instead, the Right needs to steer the debate to where the real point is: THE CAUSE. As there may be some debate about whether there’s global warming, there’s no real true, scientific debate that “man is causing global warming”. Arguments need to be advanced to first get this somewhat stealth presumption "out" into the open and then to defeat this Leftist excuse for more government tyranny over our lives. It should be fairly easy to win the debate over this really silly presumed notion.

9 posted on 05/24/2014 9:09:59 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: mylife
They seem perpetually ticked off to me.
And that's before you refute their inane, asinine ideas with facts.
10 posted on 05/24/2014 9:11:58 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: PapaNew
'The issue is the CAUSE of global warming.'
Hmmm... Now which one could it be? Hmmm...
It's so difficult to figure out!
11 posted on 05/24/2014 9:16:36 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: catnipman
now renamed “climate change”

Oooo, you're not keeping up.

Now it's called "climate disruption" to increase the fear factor.

12 posted on 05/24/2014 9:23:36 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

“When Reagan swiftly abandoned the solar goal, ‘trimmed’ my budget by 80 percent, fired most of my staff and all of my contractors — two of whom went on later to win Nobel prizes — I was absolutely crushed,”...

I sure do miss Ronald Reagan!


13 posted on 05/24/2014 9:24:29 AM PDT by Twotone (Marte Et Clypeo)
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To: Alberta's Child

Pretty much sums it up. That’s also the problem too, saying, like my professor was willing to say, that “it’s a manageable issue” makes a world of difference.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 9:24:47 AM PDT by Morpheus2009
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To: Jack Hydrazine

You can add this to the pile:
http://www.weatherbell.com/saturday-summary-may-24-2014

And this:
http://patriotpost.us/opinion/25957


15 posted on 05/24/2014 9:30:36 AM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

Hey Jack, could you send that post to as many Enviro-Nazis and Leftist Congressmen as you can?


16 posted on 05/24/2014 9:43:28 AM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Oldeconomybuyer; All
NORTH POLE

SOUTH POLE

Green is ice present in 2013, which was not present in 1992. Red shows the opposite.

HISTORY OF THE SUBJECT

The [news media] is a device for making the ignorant more ignorant
and the crazy crazier.

The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed
by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them
imaginary.

== H. L. Mencken (1880 – 1956), Journalist – magazine editor

17 posted on 05/24/2014 9:49:45 AM PDT by QT3.14 (USA born 7.4.1776 fathered by geniuses, died 11.4.2008 (Suicide) by spawn of America-haters)
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To: PapaNew

Sure! Why not? It’ll p.o. them, but I don’t mind a bit.


18 posted on 05/24/2014 9:54:07 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Excellence

Sea Ice News Volume 5 #2 – NOAA forecasts above normal Arctic ice extent for summer 2014
http://wattsupwiththat.com/2014/05/23/sea-ice-news-volume-5-2-noaa-forecasts-above-normal-arctic-ice-extent-for-summer/

Joe Bastardi was saying that when the Arctic sea ice comes back in the Fall combined with the Antarctic sea ice extent it will possibly break the global sea ice extent record.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 10:06:30 AM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
“The scale of the mess we’re in, environmentally, is enough to push anyone to the edge of their sanity,” adds Dougald Hine, co-founder of The Dark Mountain Project, a group of activists fully expecting ecological, and social, collapse across the planet.

Yeah...as the Sun continues to produce less sunspots...plunging the Earth into another Maunder Minimum and grain production plunges 23%

20 posted on 05/24/2014 12:15:04 PM PDT by spokeshave (OMG.......Schadenfreude overload is not covered under Obamacare :-()
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
What warming?


21 posted on 05/24/2014 12:22:14 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
They can chill out with a dip in lake superior on memorial day weekend at Marquette Michigan.

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22 posted on 05/25/2014 4:59:02 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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23 posted on 05/25/2014 5:08:37 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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24 posted on 05/25/2014 5:09:43 PM PDT by Tolerance Sucks Rocks (Of COURSE bacon is good for you!!!)
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To: Spok

NBC forgot to throw in Paul Ehrlich’s newest claim - that we’re going to have to eat each other’s dead bodies to survive because of global warming.

How does Paul Ehrlich stay happy? Is he inventing new condiments that go with ‘human’? Come on NBC, don’t go half way with your insanity - cover ‘em all...


25 posted on 05/25/2014 5:16:49 PM PDT by GOPJ (Someone explain why {the MSM} uses the term liberal to describe totalitarian sociopaths? BruceinOz)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

Buzz Nightmare: “To insanity and beyond!”


26 posted on 05/25/2014 8:29:58 PM PDT by Rocky (The further a society drifts from the truth, the more it will hate those who speak it. George Orwell)
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To: Oldeconomybuyer

O how do our guardians ever bear such burdens?


27 posted on 05/25/2014 8:34:34 PM PDT by Yardstick
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To: Oldeconomybuyer
Environmentalism is becoming a death cult. I think the next great mass murderers will be environmentalists who manufacture a virus to kill off as many people as possible. Many of them have advanced degrees in biological sciences. They have both the means and motivation to kill off as many humans as possible.
28 posted on 05/26/2014 5:37:40 AM PDT by beef (Who Killed Kennewick Man?)
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http://www.washingtontimes.com/news/2014/may/26/sponsors-of-pentagons-alarm-raising-climate-study-/

Retired officers poised to profit after Pentagon’s alarmist climate change report....


29 posted on 05/28/2014 2:50:14 AM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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30 posted on 05/28/2014 2:55:50 AM PDT by Reeses
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