Skip to comments.Lawyer: Family Warned Cops Before Calif. Rampage
Posted on 05/24/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by kristinn
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If true, very incompetent cops.
Here’s a link to an interview of the murderer’s atheist, God-hating father. Gee, I wonder why the kid had no morals or direction?
Lock up the mentally ill. It is easy to know the criteria, because anyone who is prescribed with anti-psychotics has been proven to be unfit in the society. They needs to be LOCKED UP until they are no longer in need of those drugs (for most, it is life long).
These people cannot be reasoned with and a free society suffers from their derangement.
This isn't a law enforcement problem. It's one of the defining characteristics of a free nation.
Can't. States don't have the money and the ACLU says its unfair that they're locked up.
So...they roam the streets.
Now that’s a whole different angle to this (see my previous post). I would fully agree with that.
Families should be able to do more to have a family member hospitalized or something.
Two cases near me in the last couple of years where families had unsuccessfully tried to have their sons involuntarily hospitalized. One killed a neighbor with a hammer and cut her head off because she was “emanating rays” at him. The other eviscerated his own mother because the demons were inside her.
That’s exactly why the first thing any totalitarian government usually does in tough economic times is make the mentally ill disappear.
I agree. Once you’ve been on anti-psychotics, like lithium, you aren’t EVER going to be normal again.
This isn’t like anyone is advocating for the detention of a man who refuses to brush his teeth in the morning. We’re talking about folks that have PROVEN to be permanently unstable.
It is possible to have someone committed on a 72 hour psych hold (A 5150). I had to do it twice on a roommate.
One other thing, we let sociopaths run free, hold office, join law enforcement and so forth and in my opinion, sociopaths are worse then psychotics!!
What happened to this guy’s biological mother?
If the family tipped off the cops weeks ago good on them.
They just sheltered themselves from liability too.
What I can’t understand is why the media has no interest in the type of firearm used, that I have seen, at least.
>> Police interviewed him and said he was a nice boy.
Do we WANT aggressive profiling or do we NOT WANT aggressive profiling?
Remember the NJ mom that regrettably called state troopers regarding a gun being transported in her son’s car. The son was thrown in jail for no good reason.
I don’t think mental illness gets the attention it deserves, but how a reasonable and adequate system would function is beyond my imagination.
She lives in LA area.
Now the Lawyer can say “I told you so”.
It’s a damn shame that innocents have to die because some spoiled brat isn’t right in the head. Just damn.
Absolutely agree! The Soviets were big on institutionalizing anyone crazy enough to not love the government!
Heck, it could be the only part of obamacare that absolutely guarantees instant treatment!!!
I’m assuming Daddy bought his Beamer. If they were worried about their son, why not take back the Beamer so at least he wouldn’t road rage and cause an accident and kill someone and at worst, well we saw at worst. The shooter really seemed to worship his car.
Family members didn’t think to grab his gun?
When I went to the Google Puke site for Q&A, my computer freezes up.........What an abortion that site is..........
You got any ideas on what I can do to be able to leave comments on YouTube?
I guess when he wasn’t shooting his movie, he used that time to take the “cheeky” (naked) pics of his wife.
Let me guess... government bureaucrats get to decide who is "permanently unstable?"
How old was her son when she left his dad?
Who had custody when he was growing up?
comes across as a very arrogant patronizing and overbearing man, typical Hollywood lib, equating George Bush with al Qaeda
Tonight he is hurting, though.
Wonder if he will ask God for strength to get through this and to receive the tortured soul of his child?
Neither parent had pics of their son on their FB, his sister that is in college appeared on Father’s and Mother’s FB.
I am assuming since Elliot wrote that he was “Eurasian” that he and his sister have the same Mother.
The Stepmom came into his Father’s life 15 years ago. They have a child together, looks to be 9 or so. Father married Stepmother 4 years ago.
Like that guy they elected to live in the White Hut...TWICE
Of course! Who is better qualified?
An important decision like this should never be left to a trained psychiatric professional! (Unless, of course, said trained professional is utterly pwned by the government, say by a nice fat NSA file chock full of embarrassing personal details and legally actionable items...)
EXACTLY! Unfortunately, the hypocrisy on this board often parallels the hypocrisy of the left. The predominant theme amongst us is “Get the damn government out of my life, I don’t want to live in a police state”. Then something like this happens, and everyone is crying “It’s the cops fault, they should’ve done something!”. What the hell do we really want? The last time I posted here supporting firearm license suspension upon becoming the subject of an issued order of protection (loosely, but not directly related to this case), I was attacked unmercifully here for being a communist gun confiscator. Now, everyone wants to blame the cops for NOT detaining or confiscating this guys guns upon a concerned call to police from family members. Besides cowardly monday morning quarterbacking and blaming Cops for EVERYTHING, what do we REALLY want?
With a single exception, every school massacre in US history occurred following the passage of the Community Mental Health Act of 1963. A reasonable and adequate system would prevent individuals who are clearly a danger to themselves and to others from harming themselves and harming others.
Or at least that's how it was done until 1963. (Since politicians have more effective ways to use taxpayer's money to buy votes than spending it on mental health, and since the ACLU will fight tooth and nail to allow the mentally ill their "rights" to harm themselves, I doubt we will revisit the 1963 bill. But we should, and would if we really wanted to begin fixing the problem.)
Interesting point. Thanks.
I see exactly one comment blaming the police.
Nice meaningless rant in any case.
Another negligent “father”.
But Hollywood is also loaded with psychiatrists & psychologists to help the same crowd evade both responsibility and reality itself. Can't wait to find out this shit’s psychological history (drugs included).
Yeah. Emptying the asylums onto main street was regarded as an act of kindness by the left. (At least that’s what they claimed!)
In comes 0bamaCare and Viola!
“...the hypocrisy on this board often parallels the hypocrisy of the left. The predominant theme amongst us is Get the damn government out of my life, I dont want to live in a police state. Then something like this happens, and everyone is crying Its the cops fault, they shouldve done something!....”
“everyone is crying ‘it’s the cops fault’?
Really? “everyone” is crying that? And we’re afflicted with hypocrisy that “parallels the hypocrisy of the left”? Just a bit too much hyperbole, don’t you think?
The local LEO Union Corporation FAILED.
I do engage in Hyperbole from time to time.........
Merely doing that doesn’t guarantee the level of personal compliance that may be needed in an individual case.
It is quite possible to be both.
C’mon, just a touch of drama helps make the point!