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Lawyer: Family Warned Cops Before Calif. Rampage
USA Today | Saturday, May 24, 1014 | Oren Dorell and William M. Welch

Posted on 05/24/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by kristinn

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: California
KEYWORDS: california; elliotrodger; elliotrodgers; leounionfailed; santabarbara; unionfail
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Family lawyer says they warned police. Police interviewed him and said he was a nice boy.
1 posted on 05/24/2014 1:50:20 PM PDT by kristinn
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To: kristinn
Police interviewed him and said he was a nice boy.

Kindred spirit?

2 posted on 05/24/2014 1:53:40 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: kristinn

If true, very incompetent cops.


3 posted on 05/24/2014 1:54:11 PM PDT by allendale
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To: kristinn

Here’s a link to an interview of the murderer’s atheist, God-hating father. Gee, I wonder why the kid had no morals or direction?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=w_81C48v3OQ


4 posted on 05/24/2014 1:54:35 PM PDT by HalfIrish
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To: kristinn

Lock up the mentally ill. It is easy to know the criteria, because anyone who is prescribed with anti-psychotics has been proven to be unfit in the society. They needs to be LOCKED UP until they are no longer in need of those drugs (for most, it is life long).

These people cannot be reasoned with and a free society suffers from their derangement.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 1:55:11 PM PDT by sagar
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To: allendale
Before you come down on the cops, it would be a good idea to ask yourself what exactly they are supposed to do in a case like this. If you have an adult who has not committed a crime and hasn't given a clear, unambiguous threat that puts someone in imminent danger, then the police don't have the legal authority to do anything with him.

This isn't a law enforcement problem. It's one of the defining characteristics of a free nation.

6 posted on 05/24/2014 1:57:00 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: sagar
Lock up the mentally ill.

Can't. States don't have the money and the ACLU says its unfair that they're locked up.

So...they roam the streets.

7 posted on 05/24/2014 1:57:29 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: sagar

Now that’s a whole different angle to this (see my previous post). I would fully agree with that.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 1:58:45 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: kristinn

Families should be able to do more to have a family member hospitalized or something.

Two cases near me in the last couple of years where families had unsuccessfully tried to have their sons involuntarily hospitalized. One killed a neighbor with a hammer and cut her head off because she was “emanating rays” at him. The other eviscerated his own mother because the demons were inside her.


9 posted on 05/24/2014 1:59:12 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

That’s exactly why the first thing any totalitarian government usually does in tough economic times is make the mentally ill disappear.


10 posted on 05/24/2014 2:00:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: sagar

I agree. Once you’ve been on anti-psychotics, like lithium, you aren’t EVER going to be normal again.

This isn’t like anyone is advocating for the detention of a man who refuses to brush his teeth in the morning. We’re talking about folks that have PROVEN to be permanently unstable.


11 posted on 05/24/2014 2:00:56 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: HalfIrish
surprised it's married with spawn, it looks and sounds like an angry faggot...
12 posted on 05/24/2014 2:01:20 PM PDT by Chode (Stand UP and Be Counted, or line up and be numbered - *DTOM* -vvv- NO Pity for the LAZY - 86-44)
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To: cripplecreek

It is possible to have someone committed on a 72 hour psych hold (A 5150). I had to do it twice on a roommate.


13 posted on 05/24/2014 2:03:41 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: sagar

One other thing, we let sociopaths run free, hold office, join law enforcement and so forth and in my opinion, sociopaths are worse then psychotics!!


14 posted on 05/24/2014 2:04:10 PM PDT by Carbonsteel
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To: HalfIrish

What happened to this guy’s biological mother?


15 posted on 05/24/2014 2:04:19 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: kristinn

If the family tipped off the cops weeks ago good on them.
They just sheltered themselves from liability too.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 2:05:20 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: kristinn

What I can’t understand is why the media has no interest in the type of firearm used, that I have seen, at least.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 2:05:59 PM PDT by Misterioso
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>> Police interviewed him and said he was a nice boy.

Do we WANT aggressive profiling or do we NOT WANT aggressive profiling?

Remember the NJ mom that regrettably called state troopers regarding a gun being transported in her son’s car. The son was thrown in jail for no good reason.

I don’t think mental illness gets the attention it deserves, but how a reasonable and adequate system would function is beyond my imagination.


18 posted on 05/24/2014 2:06:48 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Catmom

She lives in LA area.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 2:06:48 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: kristinn

Now the Lawyer can say “I told you so”.


20 posted on 05/24/2014 2:07:13 PM PDT by BeadCounter
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To: kristinn

It’s a damn shame that innocents have to die because some spoiled brat isn’t right in the head. Just damn.


21 posted on 05/24/2014 2:08:36 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Carbonsteel; sagar

Absolutely agree! The Soviets were big on institutionalizing anyone crazy enough to not love the government!

Heck, it could be the only part of obamacare that absolutely guarantees instant treatment!!!


22 posted on 05/24/2014 2:08:53 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: kristinn

I’m assuming Daddy bought his Beamer. If they were worried about their son, why not take back the Beamer so at least he wouldn’t road rage and cause an accident and kill someone and at worst, well we saw at worst. The shooter really seemed to worship his car.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 2:09:31 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: kristinn

Family members didn’t think to grab his gun?


24 posted on 05/24/2014 2:10:13 PM PDT by Veggie Todd (The tree of liberty must be refreshed from time to time with the blood of patriots and tyrants. TJ)
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To: HalfIrish
Until Googl + took over, I was able to leave comments. Once Google Puke took over, even with an account, I'm still not able to leave any comments on YouTube........This has been going on for months now!

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You got any ideas on what I can do to be able to leave comments on YouTube?

25 posted on 05/24/2014 2:11:41 PM PDT by Hot Tabasco (Under Reagan spring always arrived on time.....)
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To: HalfIrish

I guess when he wasn’t shooting his movie, he used that time to take the “cheeky” (naked) pics of his wife.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 2:11:56 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Carbonsteel
We’re talking about folks that have PROVEN to be permanently unstable.

Let me guess... government bureaucrats get to decide who is "permanently unstable?"

27 posted on 05/24/2014 2:12:38 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: machogirl

How old was her son when she left his dad?

Who had custody when he was growing up?


28 posted on 05/24/2014 2:12:39 PM PDT by Catmom (We're all gonna get the punishment only some of us deserve.)
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To: HalfIrish

comes across as a very arrogant patronizing and overbearing man, typical Hollywood lib, equating George Bush with al Qaeda

Tonight he is hurting, though.
Wonder if he will ask God for strength to get through this and to receive the tortured soul of his child?


29 posted on 05/24/2014 2:14:12 PM PDT by silverleaf (Age takes a toll: Please have exact change)
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To: Catmom

Not sure.
Neither parent had pics of their son on their FB, his sister that is in college appeared on Father’s and Mother’s FB.
I am assuming since Elliot wrote that he was “Eurasian” that he and his sister have the same Mother.
The Stepmom came into his Father’s life 15 years ago. They have a child together, looks to be 9 or so. Father married Stepmother 4 years ago.


30 posted on 05/24/2014 2:16:58 PM PDT by machogirl (First they came for my tagline)
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To: Carbonsteel
One other thing, we let sociopaths run free, hold office, join law enforcement...

Like that guy they elected to live in the White Hut...TWICE

31 posted on 05/24/2014 2:17:14 PM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Let me guess... government bureaucrats get to decide who is "permanently unstable?"

Of course! Who is better qualified?

An important decision like this should never be left to a trained psychiatric professional! (Unless, of course, said trained professional is utterly pwned by the government, say by a nice fat NSA file chock full of embarrassing personal details and legally actionable items...)

32 posted on 05/24/2014 2:17:47 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Alberta's Child

EXACTLY! Unfortunately, the hypocrisy on this board often parallels the hypocrisy of the left. The predominant theme amongst us is “Get the damn government out of my life, I don’t want to live in a police state”. Then something like this happens, and everyone is crying “It’s the cops fault, they should’ve done something!”. What the hell do we really want? The last time I posted here supporting firearm license suspension upon becoming the subject of an issued order of protection (loosely, but not directly related to this case), I was attacked unmercifully here for being a communist gun confiscator. Now, everyone wants to blame the cops for NOT detaining or confiscating this guys guns upon a concerned call to police from family members. Besides cowardly monday morning quarterbacking and blaming Cops for EVERYTHING, what do we REALLY want?


33 posted on 05/24/2014 2:18:47 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: Gene Eric
I don’t think mental illness gets the attention it deserves, but how a reasonable and adequate system would function is beyond my imagination.

With a single exception, every school massacre in US history occurred following the passage of the Community Mental Health Act of 1963. A reasonable and adequate system would prevent individuals who are clearly a danger to themselves and to others from harming themselves and harming others.

Or at least that's how it was done until 1963. (Since politicians have more effective ways to use taxpayer's money to buy votes than spending it on mental health, and since the ACLU will fight tooth and nail to allow the mentally ill their "rights" to harm themselves, I doubt we will revisit the 1963 bill. But we should, and would if we really wanted to begin fixing the problem.)

34 posted on 05/24/2014 2:20:16 PM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: Sooth2222

Interesting point. Thanks.


35 posted on 05/24/2014 2:23:02 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: NYAmerican

I see exactly one comment blaming the police.

Nice meaningless rant in any case.


36 posted on 05/24/2014 2:24:54 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: HalfIrish

Another negligent “father”.


37 posted on 05/24/2014 2:26:13 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: kristinn
It was certain that we'd hear from the family's lawyers. Hollywood is loaded with lawyers helping the Hollywood crowd evade both responsibility for their actions and the consequences of their lifestyle and beliefs..

But Hollywood is also loaded with psychiatrists & psychologists to help the same crowd evade both responsibility and reality itself. Can't wait to find out this shit’s psychological history (drugs included).

38 posted on 05/24/2014 2:26:22 PM PDT by drpix
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To: Sooth2222

Yeah. Emptying the asylums onto main street was regarded as an act of kindness by the left. (At least that’s what they claimed!)


39 posted on 05/24/2014 2:27:28 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: kristinn
He's not mentally ill.

He's evil.

40 posted on 05/24/2014 2:27:58 PM PDT by LdSentinal
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To: null and void
No need for an NSA file and personal blackmail if the government could just control all aspects of a doctor's business including billing rates, diagnostic parameters, prescribing parameters and testing parameters.

In comes 0bamaCare and Viola!

41 posted on 05/24/2014 2:28:25 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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“...the hypocrisy on this board often parallels the hypocrisy of the left. The predominant theme amongst us is “Get the damn government out of my life, I don’t want to live in a police state”. Then something like this happens, and everyone is crying “It’s the cops fault, they should’ve done something!”....”
*********************************************************************

“everyone is crying ‘it’s the cops fault’?

Really? “everyone” is crying that? And we’re afflicted with hypocrisy that “parallels the hypocrisy of the left”? Just a bit too much hyperbole, don’t you think?


42 posted on 05/24/2014 2:30:11 PM PDT by House Atreides
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To: drpix
“You can avoid reality, but you cannot avoid the consequences of avoiding reality.” ― Ayn Rand
43 posted on 05/24/2014 2:30:57 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: kristinn

The local LEO Union Corporation FAILED.


44 posted on 05/24/2014 2:31:52 PM PDT by NoLibZone (The bad news: Hillary Clinton will be the next President. The Good news: Our principles are intact.)
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To: House Atreides

I do engage in Hyperbole from time to time.........


45 posted on 05/24/2014 2:32:42 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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To: TigersEye

Merely doing that doesn’t guarantee the level of personal compliance that may be needed in an individual case.


46 posted on 05/24/2014 2:34:15 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: LdSentinal

It is quite possible to be both.


47 posted on 05/24/2014 2:35:07 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: NYAmerican
I never do...

};^P>

48 posted on 05/24/2014 2:36:28 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: kristinn
Oh My God

Budget: $1,250,000

Gross: $38,244




49 posted on 05/24/2014 2:36:46 PM PDT by 867V309 (GOPe? NOPe!)
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To: null and void

C’mon, just a touch of drama helps make the point!


50 posted on 05/24/2014 2:38:36 PM PDT by NYAmerican
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