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Where The War On Pot Will Go To Die
Time ^ | May 23, 2014 | Mike Gillespie

Posted on 05/24/2014 3:38:24 PM PDT by Wolfie

Where The War On Pot Will Go To Die

In some states, there's an untenable mismatch between the crime and the time, but does anyone think that pot—medical or recreational—will still be illegal in 10 years?

Now that a majority of Americans—54% and climbing, according to Pew Research—believe that marijuana should be treated like beer, wine and liquor, it’s time to ask: where does the war on pot go to die?

What episode will trigger that final skirmish that kicks over the hollowed-out edifice of marijuana prohibition like the Berlin Wall? What will be the final outrage against common sense and common decency that triggers an Arab Spring for weed in these U.S.? Twenty-one states and the District of Columbia already have medical marijuana (with more to come), and full legalization has gained 13 percentage points in just the past five years.

Ironically, whatever ends the war on pot won’t happen in Colorado or Washington, which have already legalized recreational pot and have received vague promises from Attorney General Eric Holder that the feds won’t bust people and businesses who comply with state laws. Colorado is further along in the retail process than Washington (where pot shops won’t open until mid-July), and so far the only problem of note is that the state is raking in 40% more tax revenue than originally projected.

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TOPICS: Culture/Society
KEYWORDS: marijuana; pot; potheads; wod; wosd
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1 posted on 05/24/2014 3:38:24 PM PDT by Wolfie
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To: Wolfie
Where The War On Pot Will Go To Die

Same place as the 1920's war on alcohol along with all the crime syndicates that go with it.

2 posted on 05/24/2014 3:41:45 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Wolfie
I just want to know where Time is going to go to die.
3 posted on 05/24/2014 3:41:46 PM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: Wolfie

Now that the majority of the clowns living in this country no longer have to work for a living, I guess they need something to do.


4 posted on 05/24/2014 3:42:23 PM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: Wolfie
does anyone think that pot—medical or recreational—will still be illegal in 10 years?

It won't be legal in all of Texas. We've still got dry counties in Texas where you can't buy alcohol.

/johnny

5 posted on 05/24/2014 3:43:54 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: PapaNew
Same place as the 1920's war on alcohol along with all the crime syndicates that go with it.

Residing in government?

6 posted on 05/24/2014 3:45:36 PM PDT by upsdriver (Palin/West '16)
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To: JRandomFreeper

Same in Kansas, last I heard.
Many years ago the sunflower state had an attorney general named Vern Miller who tried to get a court order prohibiting airlines from serving alcohol while in Kansas airspace (!).


7 posted on 05/24/2014 3:47:10 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: upsdriver

Well, I think government is on something a lot stronger than pot: the ever-more concentrated, uncut drug of POWER (with our money).


8 posted on 05/24/2014 3:53:41 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: Wolfie

Does anyone think that tobacco will be illegal ever?


9 posted on 05/24/2014 4:00:59 PM PDT by MrEdd (Heck? Geewhiz Cripes, thats the place where people who don't believe in Gosh think they aint going.)
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To: Wolfie

Ten years from now?

Well, America has already become a patheticly zonked-out cesspool of dopeheads and degenerates. An embarrassment to everything it once was. I have strong doubts as to whether the country itself will still be standing in ten years.


10 posted on 05/24/2014 4:02:04 PM PDT by greene66
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To: Wolfie

“What will be the final outrage against common sense and common decency that triggers an Arab Spring for weed in these U.S.? “

If it wasn’t the time Atlanta cops shot a grandmother in her bed mistakenly and then planted dope on her, it’s hard to imagine what would do it.


11 posted on 05/24/2014 4:03:17 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: MrEdd
Does anyone think that tobacco will be illegal ever?
The states make waaaaay too much money taxing tobacco to ever prohibit it's sale.
12 posted on 05/24/2014 4:03:54 PM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: Lurker
Atlanta cops shot a grandmother in her bed mistakenly and then planted dope on her

It's for the children.

13 posted on 05/24/2014 4:05:38 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: ConservingFreedom

The siren cry of tyrants on the right and the left since time immemorial.

“It’s for the children!”

L


14 posted on 05/24/2014 4:06:47 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: Wolfie

Where alcohol + pot contribute to a death, pot will be dismissed as a possibility. :(


15 posted on 05/24/2014 4:07:09 PM PDT by Does so ("Miranda Warnings" and loss of "Common-Law Marriage" = 2 Big Mistakes...)
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To: ConservingFreedom

Love your tag line, btw.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 4:07:25 PM PDT by Lurker (Violence is rarely the answer. But when it is it is the only answer.)
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To: FlingWingFlyer

Since there are 10x as many unemployed as homosexuals, and everybody seems to be a homosexual, theft on the grand scale will be the next pestilence.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 4:09:19 PM PDT by Cvengr (Adversity in life and death is inevitable. Thru faith in Christ, stress is optional.)
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To: PapaNew

Back to prostitution, gambling, and corrupt unions?


18 posted on 05/24/2014 4:15:26 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: tumblindice

I flew over Kansas one time. Once we were in KS airspace alcohol was NOT allowed to be served. That was in 1975.


19 posted on 05/24/2014 4:20:31 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: Lurker
Thanks! Back at ya.
20 posted on 05/24/2014 4:20:32 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: oh8eleven
I just came in from watering my tobacco plants out in the garden. Uncle Sam doesn't get a penny of tax revenue from my tobacco.

/johnny

21 posted on 05/24/2014 4:21:15 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: USNBandit
Back to prostitution

Laws against consensual vices are a goldmine for criminals.

22 posted on 05/24/2014 4:21:50 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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To: Wolfie

Just when evidence is accumulating of the permanent brain damage from pot, and just when new, more potent varieties are available, legalizing and mainstreaming cannabis is thought to be a great idea. How stupid can people be?
One thing is inescapable: legalized drugs and the welfare state cannot exist long forever. Normal people will not stand for supporting brain-damaged druggies, and such a society will fall prey to external barbarians.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 4:23:20 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: Wolfie

Just when evidence is accumulating of the permanent brain damage from pot, and just when new, more potent varieties are available, legalizing and mainstreaming cannabis is thought to be a great idea. How stupid can people be?
One thing is inescapable: legalized drugs and the welfare state cannot exist long forever. Normal people will not stand for supporting brain-damaged druggies, and such a society will fall prey to external barbarians.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 4:25:52 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: JRandomFreeper
It won't be legal in all of Texas. We've still got dry counties in Texas where you can't buy alcohol

I remember going to the Salt Lick restaurant and seeing all the BYOB coolers.
25 posted on 05/24/2014 4:27:07 PM PDT by andyk (I have sworn...eternal hostility against every form of tyranny over the mind of man.)
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To: greene66

***Well, America has already become a patheticly zonked-out cesspool of dopeheads and degenerates.***

I remember a pot smoker here who was arrested for murder. He was a classic case of dopehead. His trailer house was full of trash, filth everywhere, roaches(bugs) all over the place.
He didn’t care as long as he had his pot. He probably is still in prison for murder.

Then we had another couple who owned a trailer near here. When arrested their place was full of trash, they used one room for an “outhouse” indoors. They crapped on the floor.
When arrested for manufacturing meth, the ground had to be scoured, the trailer was disassembled, but was so polluted it sat in the bushes for about years to allow what was left to air out.


26 posted on 05/24/2014 4:28:12 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar
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To: docbnj
Drugs also cause double posting. ;)

/johnny

27 posted on 05/24/2014 4:28:38 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: greene66

The War on Marijuana may well die one of these days. But in its place will rise the libertarian utopia — an atheist, Bible-mocking, shacked-up, baby-killing, stoned and inevitably weak and dependent nation.

The expense of the Drug War has always been the least of America’s problems. People criticize it mainly not because they worry about budget frugality but they want cheap and legal joints and blow.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 4:30:13 PM PDT by heye2monn (MO)
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To: Wolfie

In ten years worrying if pot is legal will be the last thing we should care about.

We should be more worried about the next Civil war. It’s coming.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 4:31:38 PM PDT by unixfox (Abolish Slavery, Repeal the 16th Amendment)
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To: JRandomFreeper

“I just came in from watering my tobacco plants...”

Got any with seven leaves...spread out like a fan?


30 posted on 05/24/2014 4:34:24 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: unixfox

“...the next Civil war...”

Or maybe we should call it RWII. When it happens, cannabis becomes legal :)


31 posted on 05/24/2014 4:36:18 PM PDT by GGpaX4DumpedTea (I am a Tea Party descendant...steeped in the Constitutional Republic given to us by the Founders)
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To: GGpaX4DumpedTea

Nope. I don't grow hemp.

/johnny

32 posted on 05/24/2014 4:39:18 PM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: heye2monn
People criticize it mainly not because they worry about budget frugality but they want cheap and legal joints and blow.

Speak for yourself. None of the folks I know who criticize the WOD, including myself and family, don't do the stuff and wouldn't even if it were legal, but see the damage that has been done in the form of ever increasing government power.

33 posted on 05/24/2014 4:40:47 PM PDT by Gabz (Democrats for Voldemort.)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
I just want to know where Time is going to go to die.

Me, too. I want to p!$$ on the fresh turned earth of its grave.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 4:43:07 PM PDT by Hardastarboard (Please excuse the potholes in this tagline. Social programs have to take priority in our funding.)
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To: Gabz

Potheads cannot wait to drag their children to smoke fests - already happening. Libertopians lie when they say it’s for adults.


35 posted on 05/24/2014 4:43:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: unixfox
In ten years worrying if pot is legal will be the last thing we should care about.

I totally agree. Straining gnats and swallowing camels, human nature never changes.

36 posted on 05/24/2014 4:45:14 PM PDT by EricT. (Everything not forbidden is compulsory.)
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To: Wolfie
What episode will trigger that final skirmish that kicks over the hollowed-out edifice of marijuana prohibition like the Berlin Wall?

For this stoner piece of garbage to compare his pathetic ganja jones to the Berlin Wall shows just how burnt out his brain already is, and what kind of selfish sniggering munchy-based values he uses to guide his life.

Think of those who died trying to escape East Berlin with dreams of freedom...while this silly doper dreams only of escaping his sad life and self.

37 posted on 05/24/2014 4:51:59 PM PDT by Fightin Whitey
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To: USNBandit

You mean where it is now?


38 posted on 05/24/2014 4:59:06 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: docbnj

The brain damage angle is a bonus for the Lefties. A great way to manufacture more dependent people who vote for a living.


39 posted on 05/24/2014 5:04:45 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: heye2monn

The strongest drug I’ve used in the last forty years is black coffee; before that it was beer. I am adamantly opposed to the War on Some Drugs die to its financial cost and its assault on our constitution. You generalize.


40 posted on 05/24/2014 5:19:46 PM PDT by muir_redwoods (When I first read it, " Atlas Shrugged" was fiction)
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To: PapaNew

Are you implying that organized crime went away after 1933?


41 posted on 05/24/2014 5:22:56 PM PDT by SoCal Pubbie
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To: Ruy Dias de Bivar

“Once we were in Kansas airspace alcohol was NOT allowed to be served.”

Holy carp! That sounds more like Saudi or Iranian airspace.

Except I read a book by P.J. O’Rourke that said when his airliner was departing Riyadh, that just as soon as the wheels lifted off, the attendants brought out minibottles and soon grown men were swilling several at once while yelling at the cabin windows, “F*** you, you moving tea towels!!”

Anyway, I never did dope so the following joke is told with complete prejudice:

“What’s the difference between a drunk driver & a stoned driver?”

“A drunk driver will blow right past a stop sign. A stoned driver will wait for it to turn green.”


42 posted on 05/24/2014 5:33:38 PM PDT by elcid1970 ("In the modern world, Muslims are living fossils.")
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To: SoCal Pubbie

It certainly went away from alcohol and it’ll go away from drugs. One less thing.


43 posted on 05/24/2014 5:34:47 PM PDT by PapaNew
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To: PapaNew
Exactly. The original reference was to prohibition. When prohibition ended did organized crime go away? The answer is no. When dope gets legalized the criminals will switch to running hard drugs. If they legalize hard drugs they will go to trafficking something else. It is what they do. You will have fewer users in jail for dealing, but you will still see people in jail for the property crimes associated with needing to buy drugs, but being too busy using to hold down a job.

There are many in federal law enforcement that are interested in seeing the effects of dope legalization because it is the cartel's cash crop.

44 posted on 05/24/2014 5:37:33 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: SoCal Pubbie
The end of prohibition was the beginning of the BATF.
I wonder what the DEA will become?
45 posted on 05/24/2014 5:38:29 PM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: Wolfie
...and so far the only problem of note is that the state is raking in 40% more tax revenue than originally projected.

This claim is a bit of a broad-brush gloss-coating of the situation.
46 posted on 05/24/2014 5:40:19 PM PDT by AD from SpringBay (http://jonah2eight.blogspot.com/)
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To: E. Pluribus Unum

Yes, I’m sure Henry and Clare Booth Luce would not like to see what it’s become.


47 posted on 05/24/2014 5:53:46 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: JRandomFreeper

I’m not surprised. Aren’t there like, 107 or 108 counties in TX?

Personally I think that the marijuana edibles will be recriminalized. Not saying its right or wrong, just that I think they will be.


48 posted on 05/24/2014 5:57:06 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: ConservingFreedom

Also a big source of police corruption, IMO.

The whole bikini barista scandal in Everett is a good example.


49 posted on 05/24/2014 6:00:08 PM PDT by crazycatlady
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To: USNBandit
When prohibition ended did organized crime go away?

"The lush traffic in alcohol beverages during the violent years of 1920 to 1933 had laid the base of organization for a number of criminal gangs. The termination of the ban on liquor deprived these gangs of their most lucrative source of money" - Special Committee to Investigate Organized Crime in Interstate Commerce

50 posted on 05/24/2014 6:07:07 PM PDT by ConservingFreedom (A goverrnment strong enough to impose your standards is strong enough to ban them.)
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