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Dr. Robert Gates: Remarks at the Boy Scouts of America National Annual Meeting
Boy Scouts of America Newsroom ^ | 5/22/2014 | Dr. Robert Gates

Posted on 05/24/2014 6:31:09 PM PDT by MacNaughton

This is an excerpt of Dr. Gates' 26 page, 27 minute speech in which he speaks to the membership issue.

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… FINALLY, LET ME ADDRESS THE MEMBERSHIP ISSUE, AN ISSUE THAT HAS LEFT US DIVIDED, DISTRACTED AND DEFENSIVE. A YEAR AGO, THIS MEETING SAW A RESPECTFUL AND CIVIL DEBATE OVER MEMBERSHIP POLICY. IN A DEMOCRATIC PROCESS, A STRONG MAJORITY OF THE VOLUNTEER LEADERSHIP OF THIS MOVEMENT FROM ALL ACROSS THE NATION VOTED TO WELCOME GAY YOUTH INTO SCOUTING. IN ALL CANDOR, I WOULD HAVE

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SUPPORTED GOING FURTHER, AS I DID IN OPENING THE WAY FOR GAYS TO SERVE IN CIA AND IN THE MILITARY. THAT SAID, I ACCEPT THE VOTE OF A YEAR AGO, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT. AND, IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION, SCOUTING MUST PROVIDE A WELCOMING AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR GAY YOUTH, A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM SCOUTING AND NOT FACE BULLYING OR DISRESPECT.

BUT, I ALSO BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT WE MUST PUT THIS ISSUE BEHIND US AND MOVE FORWARD, RE-FOCUSING OUR ENERGIES AND OUR PASSION ON MAKING SCOUTING AN EVEN BIGGER, BETTER PROGRAM FOR KIDS. I AM, AS YOU MUST ALREADY KNOW, A HARD-EYED REALIST. GIVEN THE STRONG FEELINGS – THE PASSION – INVOLVED ON BOTH SIDES OF THIS MATTER, I BELIEVE STRONGLY THAT TO RE-OPEN THE MEMBERSHIP ISSUE OR TRY TO TAKE LAST YEAR’S DECISION TO THE NEXT STEP WOULD IRREPARABLY

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FRACTURE AND PERHAPS EVEN PROVOKE A FORMAL, PERMANENT SPLIT IN THIS MOVEMENT -- WITH THE HIGH LIKELIHOOD NEITHER SIDE WOULD SUBSEQUENTLY SURVIVE ON ITS OWN. THAT IS JUST A FACT OF LIFE. AND WHO WOULD PAY THE PRICE FOR DESTROYING THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA? MILLIONS OF SCOUTS TODAY AND SCOUTS YET UNBORN. WE MUST ALWAYS PUT THE KIDS AND THEIR INTERESTS FIRST. THUS, DURING MY TIME AS PRESIDENT, I WILL OPPOSE ANY EFFORT TO RE-OPEN THIS ISSUE.

NO ONE CAN FORETELL WHAT MIGHT HAPPEN IN THE FUTURE BUT, NOW – AT THIS MOMENT IN OUR HISTORY – WE MUST MOVE FORWARD BY FOCUSING ON WHAT UNITES US: OUR BELIEF THAT THE BOY SCOUTS OF AMERICA IS THE FINEST ORGANIZATION IN THE WORLD FOR BUILDING CHARACTER WHILE TEACHING BOYS AND YOUNG MEN TO MEET AND OVERCOME CHALLENGES, TO CHEERFULLY

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SERVE OTHERS, AND TO LIVE LIVES BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF THE SCOUT OATH AND LAW. …


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: boyscouts; bsa; homosexual; homosexualagenda
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5/22/2014
YouTube - Dr. Robert Gates: Boy Scouts of America Speech
video run time = 00:27:23 minutes
The Boy Scouts of America (BSA) National Council elected Dr. Robert M. Gates, former Secretary of Defense and former director of the Central Intelligence Agency (CIA), as the organization's national president. Dr. Gates spoke to the Scouting family during the organization's National Annual Meeting.

5/23/2014 – “New Boy Scouts President Would Have Allowed Gay Adults”
http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2014/05/23/robert-gates-boy-scouts_n_5383538.html

... The Scouts reached out to Gates as he was retiring from the Defense Department and asked him to join their leadership, said Wayne Perry, the departing BSA president. AT&T CEO Randall Stephenson, who was expected to become president this year, agreed to wait another 2 years to allow Gates to serve now, Perry said. ... (Gates) said he would emphasize to sponsors that "welcoming gay youth is an important step forward."

6/13/2012 – Jennifer Tyrell called upon AT&T CEO, Randall Stephenson, who is also a BSA National Executive Committee officer (his title is that of a vice president on the National Executive Committee) to join James Turley (CEO of Ernst Young) in speaking out against the BSA’s exclusive membership policy. Stephenson is expected to be selected as the next BSA president in 2014. Both Ernst & Young and AT&T had been commended by homosexual-rights groups for homosexual-friendly employment policies. In response, AT&T issued a statement on Stephenson's behalf, indicating that he too might be interested in working internally to reconsider the exclusive membership policy. Both Ernst & Young and AT&T are corporate members of the National Gay and Lesbian Chamber of Commerce. AT&T’s corporate HQ is in Dallas, TX, not far from BSA’s national office in Irving, TX. AT&T has scored a 100% perfect score on the HRUman Rights Campaign's Corporate Equality Index for 7 straight years since 2004.

1 posted on 05/24/2014 6:31:09 PM PDT by MacNaughton
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To: MacNaughton

Our country is lost.


2 posted on 05/24/2014 6:33:29 PM PDT by TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed (Yahuah Yahusha)
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To: MacNaughton

I could not be more DISGUSTED with all this GAY CRAP!


3 posted on 05/24/2014 6:33:51 PM PDT by Aria ( 2008 & 2012 weren't elections - they were coup d'etats.)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Old Testament. How God punished Israel for sin thru shakings. God will shake a nation till it repents or destroyed. 9/11 was our first shaking, seven years later financial implosion in fall of 2008, 2015 is fast upon us. Has our nation repent. No it chose to embrace sodomy and continue licentious life style. God will shake the US till it repents or it is destroyed.


4 posted on 05/24/2014 6:35:44 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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To: MacNaughton

And this is why I resigned my position as an Assistant Scout Master as it created an untenable position between me being a Deacon in my Church and a scout leader. I could not advocate for both acceptance of homosexuality as a scout leader and teach against the perversion as a Christian.


5 posted on 05/24/2014 6:37:03 PM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: Aria
"SERVE OTHERS, AND TO LIVE LIVES BASED ON THE PRINCIPLES OF THE SCOUT OATH AND LAW.\

"On my honor, I will do my best to do my duty to God and my Country and to obey the Scout Law; To help other people at all times; To keep myself physically strong, mentally awake, and morally straight."

And, there you go. Scout oath down the crapper...and management doesn't see what the problem is. Banden Powell must be spinning in his grave.

6 posted on 05/24/2014 6:37:50 PM PDT by 50sDad (A Liberal prevents me from telling you anything here.)
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To: MacNaughton

I know Gates is a complete douche because he uses only capital letters.


7 posted on 05/24/2014 6:39:14 PM PDT by Dalberg-Acton
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To: MacNaughton

After reading his speech posted here the HuffPo is correct that he wants homosexuals as scout leaders, but he realizes that a hard, public push to make that happen would bring about its split and collapse very quickly.

And if I am reading in between his lines about the BSA “moving forward” (Leftists love the word, ‘forward’ when in reality it is backward) he’s still going to push for albeit in a much more subtle and subversive manner.


8 posted on 05/24/2014 6:41:31 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Boyscouts will die a slow death like its Canadian equivalent. Good riddance to crapola


9 posted on 05/24/2014 6:42:02 PM PDT by Viennacon
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To: Jack Hydrazine

“he’s still going to push for making homo scout masters a reality albeit in a much more subtle and subversive manner.”


10 posted on 05/24/2014 6:43:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: 50sDad

Morality is something that God defines and we accept. He promises to bless those who obey Him and he promises to withhold that blessing from those who refuse to accept what He says. At extreme levels of disobedience, He tells us that we will suffer national punishment.

Of course, none of this matters if God does not exist.

(I note that climate change alarmists demand that we must act on their recommendations because we cannot risk that they are wrong. But act on moral issues because we cannot risk that God’s does not exist or that His promises are no longer in effect? Not a factor. They cannot allow that God exists.)


11 posted on 05/24/2014 6:44:48 PM PDT by theBuckwheat
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To: Jack Hydrazine

And since he is going to continue to work at making that happen you might as get out of the BSA if you haven’t already.


12 posted on 05/24/2014 6:46:32 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: Jack Hydrazine

The conservative alternative to the Gay Scouts.

Trail Life USA
http://www.traillifeusa.com/


13 posted on 05/24/2014 6:47:34 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MacNaughton

Gates is aiming for NAMBLA president.


14 posted on 05/24/2014 6:51:17 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: Dalberg-Acton
I know Gates is a complete douche because he uses only capital letters.

That's how speech scripts are formatted - 14-18 points, all caps, triple spaced. This was probably copied and pasted from the original document. It's why I prefer to draft it in regular type and then do the all-caps font right before printing. If you need to recirculate the speech later you can revert back to normal copy rather than trying to retype it.

15 posted on 05/24/2014 6:52:06 PM PDT by ElkGroveDan (My tagline is in the shop.)
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To: MacNaughton

This has always been about money. The Boy Scouts have an expensive headquarters and bureaucracy to fund. They depend on corporate and foundation funding to operate. Make no mistake. Homosexuals are wealth and powerful. It was clear that either policy would change or funding would cease. The Boy Scout leadership put a price on its soul. This vile Gates will allow homosexuals positions of leadership within a year and like a locust will then move on.


16 posted on 05/24/2014 6:53:12 PM PDT by allendale
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To: MacNaughton

Homosexual men should not take little boys in the woods.

Its just that simple.


17 posted on 05/24/2014 6:53:16 PM PDT by icwhatudo (Low taxes and less spending in Sodom and Gomorrah is not my idea of a conservative victory)
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To: MtnClimber
"Gates is aiming for NAMBLA president."

The only thing that makes sense from his actions.

18 posted on 05/24/2014 6:55:50 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: Fee
9/11 was our first shaking, seven years later financial implosion in fall of 2008, 2015 is fast upon us.

Our nuclear showdown with Iran just got pushed to 2015. That will be our reckoning.

19 posted on 05/24/2014 6:56:27 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: MtnClimber

I foresee NAMBLA and the BSA becoming a joint organization in the future.


20 posted on 05/24/2014 6:58:53 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: MacNaughton
Pope kisses the hand of, concelebrates mass with pro-homosexual activist priest

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-religion/3159811/posts

21 posted on 05/24/2014 7:01:58 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: MacNaughton

There is a better origination then the BSA.

Trail Life USA, check out their web page.

Trail Life USA is a Christian adventure, character, and leadership program for young men. The K-12 program centers on outdoor experiences that build a young man’s skills and allow him to grow on a personal level and as a role model and leader for his peers. Living the Trail Life is a journey established on timeless values derived from the Bible.

http://www.traillifeusa.com/


22 posted on 05/24/2014 7:02:36 PM PDT by EXCH54FE (Hurricane 416,Feisty Old Vet !!)
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To: MacNaughton

So basically he said, he wants gay adults in BSA leadership, but it will kill the organization if they try to do it.

My guess is that they are already seriously hurt, for him to have said that.


23 posted on 05/24/2014 7:04:22 PM PDT by DannyTN
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To: MacNaughton

I’m currently an Weblos Den Leader, and while I am disgusted at this whole gay-crap, I am appreciative that Gates is trying to mend the issue.

.... of course, O’Bama is supposed to be the default President of the BSA but he has refused (I suppose because he doesn’t believe in the scout oath).

In practice I don’t believe that last years rulings will change very much. I don’t think that many openly gay kids are going to be attracted to scouting anyway. As long as we can keep Gay Leaders who may have recruitment desires out I think were OK.

So I take Gates at his word, and hope that the issue is over. We’ll see soon enough.


24 posted on 05/24/2014 7:04:40 PM PDT by teppe (... for my God ... for my Family ... for my Country ....)
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To: MacNaughton

Sicko.
They’ve Ruined a great organization for the youth of America with this sicko krap.


25 posted on 05/24/2014 7:05:03 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)d)
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To: MacNaughton

What on earth is the ex-director of the CIA doing as head of the Boy Scouts of America??


26 posted on 05/24/2014 7:06:23 PM PDT by ChocChipCookie ("Demons run when a good man goes to war.")
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To: icwhatudo
"Homosexual men should not take little boys in the woods. Its just that simple"

!!!!!

How can this be disputed or controversial? Watch for the 2 angles scoping out our country...

Genesis 19 New American Standard Bible (NASB) The Doom of Sodom

"4 Before they lay down, the men of the city, the men of Sodom, surrounded the house, both young and old, all the people from every quarter; 5 and they called to Lot and said to him, “Where are the men who came to you tonight? Bring them out to us that we may have relations with them.”


27 posted on 05/24/2014 7:11:47 PM PDT by uncommonsense (Liberals see what they believe; Conservatives believe what they see.)
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To: teppe

It’s not over when he says he would have liked to have seen it go further. Sounds like he wants to reintroduce the issue as soon as he can without destroying the organization.


28 posted on 05/24/2014 7:12:10 PM PDT by FR_addict
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To: teppe

I take Gates at his word as well. The phrase “morally straight “ means nothing to him. His pro-sodomy position makes him unfit to lead any organization. May he shortly either repent or stand before God.


29 posted on 05/24/2014 7:12:26 PM PDT by freedomfiter2 (Brutal acts of commission and yawning acts of omission both strengthen the hand of the devil.)
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To: Viennacon

In my area they’ve been dying for decades, consolidating constantly and selling properties; we lost our Sea Scouts as well. Parents I know that were involved in scouting years ago complained about the focus on fundraising rather than actual outdoors.


30 posted on 05/24/2014 7:14:54 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MacNaughton
THAT SAID, I ACCEPT THE VOTE OF A YEAR AGO, AND I STRONGLY SUPPORT IT. AND, IN ITS IMPLEMENTATION, SCOUTING MUST PROVIDE A WELCOMING AND SAFE ENVIRONMENT FOR GAY YOUTH, A PLACE WHERE THEY CAN BENEFIT FROM SCOUTING AND NOT FACE BULLYING OR DISRESPECT.

Certainly, Gates is in league with Satan. I seriously doubt that a "strong majority" voted for the BSA to bend the law "morally straight."

The current administration is also in the same league with their push for same sex marriage and gays in all positions of the scouts. Gates has strong connections with the current administration and wants to please his bosses. Other cowardly scout executives fear losing funding and the support of the military, given that scouting is a big business.

They have given up their integrity, and like termites systematically destroying a foundation of a wooden house, the BSA organization will eventually crumble because its foundation has been compromised.

31 posted on 05/24/2014 7:20:35 PM PDT by olezip (Time obliterates the fictions of opinion and confirms the decisions of nature. ~ Cicero)
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To: MtnClimber; uncommonsense; Jack Hydrazine
14 Gates is aiming for NAMBLA president.

18 The only thing that makes sense from his actions.

20 I foresee NAMBLA and the BSA becoming a joint organization in the future.

I found the letter below in Pastor Scott Lively's and Kevin Abram's on-line book, The Pink Swastika.


The Pink Swastika, 4th edition, on-line

NOV 1992 – NAMBLA sent a letter to BSA Chief Scout Executive Ben Love in which NAMBLA predicted that BSA would eventually succumb to homosexual demands. The letter was also published in the NOV, 1992 NAMBLA Bulletin.

Dear Mr. Love, (Chief Scout Executive, BSA)

At its 16th membership conference, held in Chicago, August 7-9-1992, the North American Man/Boy Love Association unanimously adopted the following resolution:

“NAMBLA calls on the Boy Scouts of America to cease its discrimination against openly gay or lesbian persons in the appointment of its scout masters. This will permit scouts to be exposed to a variety of lifestyles and will permit more of those individuals who genuinely wish to serve boys to do so.”

I feel especially honored to have been asked to alert you of this resolution. I have also been a scout and a scout leader and share with so many in NAMBLA affection for the movement.

We recognize, of course, that the action for which we call is inevitable. What a great added contribution your organization will make possible to all the boys and girls who participate in it when you take this step. May it be taken in the near future.

We share a common mission — to bring greater understanding and light and purpose to the young as they grow. We invite you to join with us in cherishing individual integrity, and in seeking the opportunity for every boy and girl in our country to find their own truth. We encourage you to help every person associated with your organization to be able to express those values from themselves which to them represent for themselves the Good, the True, and the Beautiful. As we work together toward these ends Light will guide our way.

We express these sentiments most respectfully,
Very Cordially,
Leland Stevenson
Co-Recording Secretary, NAMBLA

32 posted on 05/24/2014 7:26:11 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: MacNaughton

What’s with the ALL CAPS that makes it so difficult to read?


33 posted on 05/24/2014 7:27:03 PM PDT by Arlis
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To: ChocChipCookie
26 What on earth is the ex-director of the CIA doing as head of the Boy Scouts of America??

Read the links in post #1. He has a huge Scouting background.

34 posted on 05/24/2014 7:28:39 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: MacNaughton

Good post! It is clear what is happening and evidence to back it up.


35 posted on 05/24/2014 7:31:17 PM PDT by MtnClimber (Just doing laps around the sun and shaking my head that progressives can believe what they do!)
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To: MacNaughton
Gates (emphasis mine): Yeah, I bet you do, sweetie.

The BSA succumbed to the call of Satan. They will pay the price for years to come.

http://www.traillifeusa.com/

36 posted on 05/24/2014 7:31:28 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: allendale
16 This has always been about money. The Boy Scouts have an expensive headquarters and bureaucracy to fund. They depend on corporate and foundation funding to operate. ...

Agreed. The development of The Summit Scouting Preserve in WV has way overextended the BSA.

37 posted on 05/24/2014 7:31:36 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: EXCH54FE
There is a better origination then the BSA. Trail Life USA, check out their web page. ... http://www.traillifeusa.com/

It's still early in the schism, but I believe TL-USA will not welcome Mormon Scouts and Scouters. I imagine the Roman Catholic Church will not be sending their units over either. TL-USA has a strong orthodox evangelical Christian foundation.

38 posted on 05/24/2014 7:36:08 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: MacNaughton

Dr. Gates?

Is he a proctologist?


39 posted on 05/24/2014 7:41:04 PM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: MacNaughton

The most disturbing aspect over the battle for gay scoutmasters was the silence of the Girl Scouts. If I had daughters they certainly wouldn’t be in the Girl Scouts; they apparently settled that debate decades ago in the deviants’ favor.


40 posted on 05/24/2014 7:43:10 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: MacNaughton

“I imagine the Roman Catholic Church will not be sending their units over either. TL-USA has a strong orthodox evangelical Christian foundation.”

I guess the parents will decide that; if American Catholics don’t look to their “leaders” for guidance on this don’t be shocked (there is none).


41 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:04 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Arlis; ElkGroveDan; Dalberg-Acton
33 What’s with the ALL CAPS that makes it so difficult to read?

See ElkGroveDan's post #15. He nailed it.

42 posted on 05/24/2014 7:45:30 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: allendale

Spot on — Always follow the money to find the truth!!!


43 posted on 05/24/2014 7:55:07 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: olezip
31 ... Certainly, Gates is in league with Satan. I seriously doubt that a "strong majority" voted for the BSA to bend the law "morally straight." ...

Correct.

4/19/2013 - The BSA’s National Executive Committee (~23 voting members) unanimously approved and released its membership standards resolution, which proposed removing the restriction denying membership to youth on the basis of sexual orientation alone and maintaining the current membership policy for all adult leaders of the BSA. Under the new proposal, there is a national standard and no “local option.” The resolution is presented below.

BSA Executive Summary of MAR 2013 Voice of the Scout Survey

BSA Membership Standards FAQs

Key Findings - excerpts

 Attitudes and opinions among Americans related to gay and lesbian relationships have changed rapidly over the past 3 years.
 Four experts were consistent in their findings and recommendations …
• David Finkelhor, Ph.D.
• W. Walter Menninger, M.D., psychiatry
• Charol Shakeshaft, Ph.D.
• Victor Vieth, J.D.
• “The nearly universal opinion among sexual abuse authorities is that same-sex sexual interest or same-sex sexual experience, either in adults or youth, is NOT a risk factor for sexually abusing children.”
• In regard to role modeling: “Most of the research on the effect on children of associating with self-identified homosexual adults has been done about homosexual parents. The clear conclusion from this research is that there appear to be no effects on children’s adjustment, mental health or sexual orientation.”
 61% of scouters favored the current policy, 34 % oppose it.
 61% of Boy Scout parents supported the current policy, while 50% of Cub Scout parents backed it (45% of Cub Scout parents opposed it).
 51% of major donors support the current policy while 33% oppose it. But a majority of Fortune 500 companies want to see the policy changed.
 A majority of teens ages 16-18 in the Boy Scouts program oppose the current policy. A percentage was not given.
 BSA National also said that parents, teens and the Scouting community "do not favor" the “local option” as proposed in FEB.
 The summary of findings said a policy change would cost the Scouts a minimum of 100,000 to 350,000 (13.5%) members. “It is believed any gain in membership because of a change to the membership policy related to youth and adults would be in the range of 10,000 to 20,000 (<1%) youth.”
 Though not named specifically, the Mormon Church, BSA’s largest chartered organization denomination, did not respond.
 BSA National contacted 30 national youth-serving, government, foundation, and community organizations (many of which are strategic partners of the BSA), and asked to what extent they support or oppose the current BSA policy:
• Twenty-eight want change and oppose the current BSA policy, one is neutral and somewhat opposes the policy, and one wants no change and supports the current policy.
• The main concern of the 28 organizations that want the BSA to change is that if the policy remains the same, national organizations cannot support the BSA, making it very difficult for those organizations to work/collaborate with the BSA because of the exclusion of youth and lack of diversity in the BSA.

44 posted on 05/24/2014 7:56:35 PM PDT by MacNaughton (Marcus Tullius Cicero: "A nation ... cannot survive treason from within.")
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To: FR_addict

I’ve seen speculation Gates is a 2-year placeholder to allow time for last year’s difficulties to fade and then place the CEO of AT&T in as the next BSA Chair. This CEO is the main driver for the acceptance of gays in troop leadership positions.


45 posted on 05/24/2014 7:59:15 PM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: MacNaughton

“The BSA National Council Annual Meeting was held at the Gaylord Opryland Resort”

Appropriate!


46 posted on 05/24/2014 8:02:56 PM PDT by aMorePerfectUnion ( "I didn't leave the Central Oligarchy Party. It left me." - Ronaldus Magnimus, 2014)
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To: teppe
So I take Gates at his word

I do too. I believe him when he says he wants children to openly engage in sodomy without facing disapproval. I believe him when he says he wants men to openly engage in sodomy and serve as mentors to children.

47 posted on 05/24/2014 8:03:45 PM PDT by BykrBayb (Wagglebee please come home we miss you! ~ Þ)
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To: MacNaughton

That seems plain enough. Gates will one day beg a mountain to fall on him and hide him from the face of Moshiach. Won’t work. He should invest in some asbestos water skis. He’ll look like a million, skimming across the waves of his final destination resort: The Lake of Fire.


48 posted on 05/24/2014 8:13:26 PM PDT by Torahman (Remember the Maccabees!)
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To: TruthInThoughtWordAndDeed

Whether it’s the Scout Oath, the Constitution or the Bible it’s every man’s duty to read them, know them and interpret them as well as protect and defend them. We can never allow self deifying leaders to twist them in ways that render them meaningless, calling evil: good and good: evil.


49 posted on 05/24/2014 8:15:51 PM PDT by Theophilus (Be as prolific as you are pro-life.)
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To: Fee
God will shake a nation till it repents or destroyed

Amerika will never repent: destruction then must be the fate.

50 posted on 05/24/2014 8:20:15 PM PDT by Theodore R. (Liberals keep winning; so the American people must now be all-liberal all the time.)
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