Skip to comments.Election Results: European Parliament Elections In Uk (Ukip In First Place?)
Posted on 05/25/2014 9:21:09 AM PDT by Nextrush
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Wouldn’t most US election results look like that, if you separate out the big cities? We’d have NY/CA/IL if only we could separate out NYC, SF/LA and Chicago.
“Also worth noting that the Electoral Commission, the independent supervisory body to which returning officers are accountable, is itself accountable to Parliament, not Government - an important distinction.”
Indeed it is an important distinction. Existing ‘elected’ politicians directly judging the results of their own elections. I suppose that is better than having the ‘king’ do it but im not sure how in the light of the present climante.
Still if your allowed to watch the investigation at every stage and for every vote Then hopefully you may at least have an alarm to know something is wrong. That is indeed better than we have in some states.
“Wouldnt most US election results look like that, if you separate out the big cities? Wed have NY/CA/IL if only we could separate out NYC, SF/LA and Chicago.”
Probably, which is why even Thomas Jefferson lamented how cities tend to corrupt the souls of men. It is perhaps a result of the way people treat each other in cities believing they shall not have to worry about dealing with one anther again they do nothing to defend or even be decent to their neighbor.
Instead people live in a world where they suspect everyone of being a potential threat rather than a friend.
The big city corrupts the soul of men, just as it overwhelms the mental capacity of people to appropriately deal with the community around them.
George Wallace won states without a majority of the popular vote as a third party candidate and got all their electoral votes in 1968.
The candidate that wins the most votes in a state will get all its electoral votes and perhaps there would be a deadlock going to the House, perhaps there wouldn’t.
Perot the third candidate for president could have won outright when he rode high in the polls in 1992, then he pulled out of the race for a few weeks and started saying crazy things. He had to tamp down his support so Clinton could win.
Perhaps, although UKIP did OK in other areas where there are signifiant muslim communities. No, there are more likely reasons. It’s partly because UKIP London isn’t as well organised as some other areas, but mostly because London is THE home of the UK’s political, social and cultural elite. Our equivalent of the Washington village, that little bubble of very clever enlightened intellectuals who are oh so much better able to run our lives than we are.
I dont know the particulars of US elections either, I'm just basing my comment on the fact that whenever such elections are in the news a substantial number of people on these boards moan about "the dead voting" and various other electoral inconsistencies.
“The Telegraph in the UK says its because Wilders linked himself to Marine Le Pen and the National Front in France instead of Nigel Farage and UKIP.”
Seems to be an interesting dynamic going on with the European right. The NF leans towards the more traditional, nationalist, sometimes quasi-fascist “far right” of Europe, but UKIP seems to have eschewed that in favor of something closer to American conservatism. I think this is the first time that we’ve really seen anything like that in European politics, and the fact that they are succeeding is a good sign.
I think if they continue to succeed, they can push out both the far right groups and the “moderate” left, “Christian Democrat” type parties. Hopefully, they won’t make the mistake of falling in with those groups just to form coalition governments, since that could be disastrous. They’ve got to make the old way of thinking obsolete, not be seduced by it.
Well, we can have more than two, but not for long. The only time we really see more than two gain any ground, historically, is in times of transition, when one party was going extinct and a new one was supplanting it. I don’t think that ever lasts more than one or two federal election cycles though.