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Father of Slain Victim Blames Sonís Death on NRA and Craven Politicians(eh, knife victims too?)
breitbart ^ | 5/24/14 | r wilde

Posted on 05/25/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by bestintxas

In an emotional statement, the father of a victim of the mass murder in Isla Vista on Friday night addressed reporters Saturday and warned families that it can happen to them too. "Our family has a message for every parent out there: You don’t think it’ll happen to your child until it does.”

According to the Los Angeles Times, Richard Martinez, the father of Chris Martinez, who was killed in the premeditated attack near the campus of UC Santa Barbara, spoke for 45 minutes, extolled the virtues of his son, and expressed his disdain for the National Rifle Association for refusing to back greater gun control legislation. “Chris was a really great kid,” Martinez lamented. “Ask anyone who knew him. His death has left our family lost and broken.”

Martinez, in an emotional plea, asked, “Why did Chris die? Chris died because of craven, irresponsible politicians and the NRA… When will enough people say, 'Stop this madness.' We do not have to live like this. Too many people have died. We should say to ourselves, 'not one more.'"

One student, 19-year-old Lyssa Hopper, was shopping at the IV Deli Market in the 6500 block of Pardell Road on Friday night when she heard a series of gunshots and a crashing

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I know this guy is hurting badly but why not blame the guy who caused the death?
1 posted on 05/25/2014 10:20:42 AM PDT by bestintxas
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To: F15Eagle

BMW = Big Murderous Wheels!


3 posted on 05/25/2014 10:22:53 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: F15Eagle

3 guys stabbed to death prior to the shootings. Guess they don’t count. Sorry dad for your loss but don’t blame the millions of law abiding citizens who didn’t do anything harmful with their weapons this weekend. Guns? Legally obtained. Forty 10 round magazines. Legally obtained. So, now Cali. Are the new cries going to be for the number of magazines you “may” own/posses? Reduce the rounds/mag? Okay so the kid would maybe have had 80 5 round mags? Absurdity rears it’s ugly head yet again. No mark kelley-giffords the ugly head comment was not directed at you. This time.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 10:26:39 AM PDT by rktman (Ethnicity: Nascarian. Race: Daytonafivehundrian)
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To: F15Eagle

It sounds to me as though the auto workers union is just as much to blame as the NRA. As long as people continue to think the way Obama supporter, Richard Martinez thinks, there will continue to be “massacres”. The NRA has nothing to do with the DemocRATS’ failed “people behaving badly” style of alternative society problem.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 10:26:57 AM PDT by FlingWingFlyer (Obama's smidgens are coming home to roost.)
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To: bestintxas

How tragic. A man loses his son and he, having heard nothing but anti-NRA propaganda all his life by people who want to fool him, blames the NRA. The socialists must be giving each other high-fives over the brainwashing of the masses. This was their dream—having tragedies blamed on their political opponents. The NRA has saved thousands and thousands of lives but this father has never been told of that. What a tragedy.


7 posted on 05/25/2014 10:27:08 AM PDT by iacovatx (Conservatism is the political center--it is not "right" of center)
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To: bestintxas
...and the politicians who ensured that everyone around there would be disarmed and that there were no armed citizens nearby to defend this guy's son. Or that his son could have been armed and defended himself.

I know he's hurting and suffered a terrible loss..but... Your son was a sheep, like you, led to slaughter on the alter of "gee, it sounds like such a good idea." Well, so-called "gun control" isn't a good idea. Common sense as well as a long bloody history tells us it leads to these kinds of incidents. Stop the insanity. "Gun free zones" are really just "defenseless victim congregation areas."

8 posted on 05/25/2014 10:27:57 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: F15Eagle

My guess is that the kid used dope of various types.


9 posted on 05/25/2014 10:28:44 AM PDT by MeshugeMikey ( "Never, never, never give up". Winston Churchill)
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To: bestintxas

Yeah, yeah, guns kill people just like spoons and forks make people fat and pencils mis-spell words. I feel sorry for the poor man, but he is one of the brain-washed sheeple.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 10:29:43 AM PDT by PROCON (Those who are capable of Tyranny are capable of Deceit to sustain it.)
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To: bestintxas
Spree/mass-shootings are about 0.1% of all murders. According to DOJ crime statistics, guns are used by ordinary citizens 2.5 million times per year to stop violent crimes like robbery, rape, carjacking and home-invasion (99% of the time without a shot being fired), but let's outlaw guns because that way we can feel good about ourselves.

Screw those 2.5 million people who defended themselves with guns. They deserve to be robbed, raped, carjacked and home-invaded.

11 posted on 05/25/2014 10:30:26 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum ("The more numerous the laws, the more corrupt the government." --Tacitus)
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To: bestintxas

In The Words Of The Late, Great Ronaldus Magnus:”There You Go Again”!


12 posted on 05/25/2014 10:33:03 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: bandleader

Spoons make people fat too, but they also make them stupid when they use them to process drugs.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 10:37:27 AM PDT by billhilly (Its OK, the left hated Bush.)
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To: bestintxas

“Look over there! Look over there! Don’t look at me! The NRA is responsible for raising my children, not me!”


14 posted on 05/25/2014 10:38:09 AM PDT by blueunicorn6 ("A crack shot and a good dancer")
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To: bestintxas
Three shot, three stabbed, was the NKA {National Knife Association} held to blame for the evil knife?

Some self centered, crazed, pampered Hollywood spawn, rejected life, and committed multiple random murders and his own suicide.

His weapons were knives and guns, both tools but when used for evil human actions, get blamed.

The real villain, Rogers, is now being pitied, analyzed, examined, revered, reviled and given his 15 minutes of infamy.

But guns, they will be the villain for time immemorial.

{sigh} time for another donation to the NRA...

15 posted on 05/25/2014 10:41:19 AM PDT by USS Alaska (Exterminate the terrorist savages, everywhere.)
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To: bestintxas

That this greiving parent decides to say anything in front of the cameras confirms how accustomed many have become to volunterilly discarding their privacy. If something like this happened to someone in my family less that 48 hours ago, I would be in no condition to stand in front of a microphone talking about it. Everyone is different, but what does this do for him? This public grief? I’m not in his head. I hope I never have to be.


16 posted on 05/25/2014 10:42:34 AM PDT by lee martell
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To: bestintxas
So, the NRA is to blame for the failure of the CA criminal justice system?

I'm sorry, Mr. Martinez, but laws to deal with people like Elliot Rodger are already on the books. They simply have to be enforced.

PENAL CODE SECTION 422-422.4,

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422. (a) Any person who willfully threatens to commit a crime which will result in death or great bodily injury to another person, with the specific intent that the statement, made verbally, in writing, or by means of an electronic communication device, is to be taken as a threat, even if there is no intent of actually carrying it out, which, on its face and under the circumstances in which it is made, is so unequivocal, unconditional, immediate, and specific as to convey to the person threatened, a gravity of purpose and an immediate prospect of execution of the threat, and thereby causes that person reasonably to be in sustained fear for his or her own safety or for his or her immediate family's safety, shall be punished by imprisonment in the county jail not to exceed one year, or by imprisonment in the state prison.

  (b) For purposes of this section, "immediate family" means any spouse, whether by marriage or not, parent, child, any person related by consanguinity or affinity within the second degree, or any other person who regularly resides in the household, or who, within the prior six months, regularly resided in the household.

  (c) "Electronic communication device" includes, but is not limited to, telephones, cellular telephones, computers, video recorders, fax machines, or pagers. "Electronic communication" has the same meaning as the term defined in Subsection 12 of Section 2510 of Title 18 of the United States Code.

<End quote.>

As soon as Elliot Rodger began making public death threats and/or threats of violence, particularly those posted to Youtube, he was violating the California "Criminal Threats" law (above).

The law was simply not enforced. The question is, why?

17 posted on 05/25/2014 10:48:22 AM PDT by holymoly
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To: bestintxas

Blame the gun ...

Geez, ask the parents of the murdered roommates who were slashed to death and maybe also shot.

Admittedly, I haven’t closely followed this horrid case, but the monster was intent on a murder rampage regardless of his wepaons.


18 posted on 05/25/2014 10:52:11 AM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: bestintxas

The killer blamed his years of playing video games for his hatred but the father insists it’s the NRA’s fault.


19 posted on 05/25/2014 10:59:20 AM PDT by dragonblustar ( Psalm 103, Psalm 37:7, Ephesians 6:12)
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To: lee martell

If anything, I would be angry and seething at the Rodger family and his various doctors knowing that they were aware of their son’s mental instability. While I grieve for Mr. Martinez, I hear too much of a big time liberal in his words, and you know damn well the left is going to use this guy for their own ends, probably as another gun rights advocate.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 10:59:31 AM PDT by dowcaet
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