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Only in NY – School hands 66 lb girl note saying she’s fat
Hotair ^ | 05/24/2014 | Jazz Shaw

Posted on 05/25/2014 11:21:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind

Tales from the Nanny State continue to the amazement of nobody, I’m sure. In a story coming from (where else…) New York City, the wise school officials, ever concerned about the health and future of their students, decided to check out what each of the kids weighs, matching the results against some Body Mass Index chart. Upon noting that many of the children failed to pass muster, they decided to inform the parents… by handing the kids notes to take home. What could possibly go wrong?

A New York City mom was fit to be tied Wednesday after her 4-foot-1, 66-pound daughter came home from school with a note calling her fat.

Eight-year-old Gwendolyn Williams is anything but fat, but her mom worries that the school’s note, citing her body mass index, has left her daughter confused about her body.

“My daughter is thin; she knows she doesn’t have a weight problem, but that night, I caught her grabbing the skin near her waist, and she asked me, ‘is this what they were talking about?”‘ Laura Bruiji Williams, the girl’s mom, told FoxNews.com. “It was awful to see.”

Gwendolyn, along with her classmates, were handed a “Fitnessgram” sealed with a sticker at her public school in Brooklyn. The class was told not to open the letters, issued by the New York City Department of Education, but like most of her friends, she couldn’t resist and read it.

Who could have possibly predicted that a group of curious pre-teens, having been handed mysterious notes for their parents carrying instructions not to open them, would go ahead and open them anyway? Probably anyone with any experience whatsoever with children and one half the common sense that God gave a goat. But not in this school!

But perhaps more disturbing is the idea that an eight year old who weighs in at 66 pounds was somehow off the bell curve on the fat end. Are they just trying to encourage bulimia in the next generation? Does this girl really look fat to you?

ThisGirl

Welcome to New York. And with that greeting out of the way, flee as you value your lives. This place is a lost cause.


TOPICS: Culture/Society; Government; News/Current Events; US: New York
KEYWORDS: bmi; childobesity; newyork; obesity; obsesity; publicschools
This is now considered fat?

1 posted on 05/25/2014 11:21:36 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: SeekAndFind

According to BMI the NBA is full of morbidly obese players


2 posted on 05/25/2014 11:23:35 AM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

But this is the epitome of svelte feminine beauty!

Can I have two yeses and a big fat NO!

3 posted on 05/25/2014 11:28:25 AM PDT by Aevery_Freeman (Historians will refer to this administration as "The Half-Black Plague.")
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To: SeekAndFind

If anything, the kid looks thin. Actually, totally normal. What is abnormal are these busybody public schools with their noses in everything.


4 posted on 05/25/2014 11:29:05 AM PDT by Flick Lives ("I can't believe it's not Fascism!")
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To: SeekAndFind
Being even somewhat overweight can,in fact,cause serious problems...in adults at least.It happened to me.Medical research either has,or has not,convincingly established that a particular BMI in a child or adolescent can cause problems.Assuming that that *has* been established then it's up to the kid's doctor to address the problem...not the school system.

And to my eyes that girl doesn't look at all overweight.

5 posted on 05/25/2014 11:31:52 AM PDT by Gay State Conservative (Rat Party Policy:Lie,Deny,Refuse To Comply)
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To: Gay State Conservative
Top 10 Reasons Why The BMI Is Bogus

1. The person who dreamed up the BMI said explicitly that it could not and should not be used to indicate the level of fatness in an individual.

The BMI was introduced in the early 19th century by a Belgian named Lambert Adolphe Jacques Quetelet. He was a mathematician, not a physician. He produced the formula to give a quick and easy way to measure the degree of obesity of the general population to assist the government in allocating resources. In other words, it is a 200-year-old hack.

2. It is scientifically nonsensical.

There is no physiological reason to square a person's height (Quetelet had to square the height to get a formula that matched the overall data. If you can't fix the data, rig the formula!). Moreover, it ignores waist size, which is a clear indicator of obesity level.

3. It is physiologically wrong.

It makes no allowance for the relative proportions of bone, muscle and fat in the body. But bone is denser than muscle and twice as dense as fat, so a person with strong bones, good muscle tone and low fat will have a high BMI. Thus, athletes and fit, health-conscious movie stars who work out a lot tend to find themselves classified as overweight or even obese.

4. It gets the logic wrong.

The CDC says on its Web site that "the BMI is a reliable indicator of body fatness for people." This is a fundamental error of logic. For example, if I tell you my birthday present is a bicycle, you can conclude that my present has wheels. That's correct logic. But it does not work the other way round. If I tell you my birthday present has wheels, you cannot conclude I got a bicycle. I could have received a car. Because of how Quetelet came up with it, if a person is fat or obese, he or she will have a high BMI. But as with my birthday present, it doesn't work the other way round. A high BMI does not mean an individual is even overweight, let alone obese. It could mean the person is fit and healthy, with very little fat.

5. It's bad statistics.

Because the majority of people today (and in Quetelet's time) lead fairly sedentary lives and are not particularly active, the formula tacitly assumes low muscle mass and high relative fat content. It applies moderately well when applied to such people because it was formulated by focusing on them. But it gives exactly the wrong answer for a large and significant section of the population, namely the lean, fit and healthy. Quetelet is also the person who came up with the idea of "the average man." That's a useful concept, but if you try to apply it to any one person, you come up with the absurdity of a person with 2.4 children. Averages measure entire populations and often don't apply to individuals.

6. It is lying by scientific authority.

Because the BMI is a single number between 1 and 100 (like a percentage) that comes from a mathematical formula, it carries an air of scientific authority. But it is mathematical snake oil.

7. It suggests there are distinct categories of underweight, ideal, overweight and obese, with sharp boundaries that hinge on a decimal place.

That's total nonsense.

8. It makes the more cynical members of society suspect that the medical insurance industry lobbies for the continued use of the BMI to keep their profits high.

Insurance companies sometimes charge higher premiums for people with a high BMI. Among such people are all those fit individuals with good bone and muscle and little fat, who will live long, healthy lives during which they will have to pay those greater premiums.

9. Continued reliance on the BMI means doctors don't feel the need to use one of the more scientifically sound methods that are available to measure obesity levels.

Those alternatives cost a little bit more, but they give far more reliable results.

10. It embarrasses the U.S.

It is embarrassing for one of the most scientifically, technologically and medicinally advanced nations in the world to base advice on how to prevent one of the leading causes of poor health and premature death (obesity) on a 200-year-old numerical hack developed by a mathematician who was not even an expert in what little was known about the human body back then.

6 posted on 05/25/2014 11:36:07 AM PDT by vbmoneyspender
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To: SeekAndFind
The grandfather in me would be encouraging the child to eat, and making plenty of treats that the kid likes. She ain't fat.

/johnny

7 posted on 05/25/2014 11:37:01 AM PDT by JRandomFreeper (Gone Galt)
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To: SeekAndFind

What a Porker. she needs to get down to at least 60 lb. All kids are fat so everyone gets a note, and everyone passes and everyone gets a trophy.


8 posted on 05/25/2014 11:42:44 AM PDT by Conspiracy Guy (Stop wishing for a perfect world. You may get it. Who will you talk to then?)
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To: SeekAndFind

Looks like a “large boned” lass to me. Way to go folks, want to nudge some nervous nellies into anorexia nervosa?


9 posted on 05/25/2014 11:44:26 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind

She looks like how a normal, healthy 8 year old should look. Its so sad and scary that government run schools are classifying her and others fat. My 8 ½ year old daughter would be considered obese at 4’ 7” and 72 pounds by their standards. She is tall, thin and muscles are toned from 4+ years of ballet.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 11:45:54 AM PDT by jodster36
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To: Gay State Conservative

Childhood weight might or might not project adult weight either. Depending on my age I was either chubby or beanpole, rib-showing skinny. Now I fight the battle of the bulge big time, and nobody could have known.

Some say that as an adult, up to 40 lb. over “chart normal” is not a health problem. A vanity problem it could be.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 11:48:48 AM PDT by HiTech RedNeck (Embrace the Lion of Judah and He will roar for you and teach you to roar too. See my page.)
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To: SeekAndFind
The BMI is a totally completely useless metric in regards to a healthy weight/height/build. The powers to be want to put everyone either on a starvation diet, or fatten up people to the point where they can't fight back without having a heart attack. The agri-corps and food processors are behind a lot of this.
12 posted on 05/25/2014 11:54:27 AM PDT by factoryrat (We are the producers, the creators. Grow it, mine it, build it.)
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To: GeronL

and Somolia is fat central.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 12:12:07 PM PDT by Yorlik803 ( Church/Caboose in 2016)
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To: SeekAndFind

Let’s put these teachers topless on a runway and see what they look like before allowing them to pass judgment.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 12:27:23 PM PDT by DPMD
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To: SeekAndFind

The problem here is that she is too tall for her age. She needs to start smoking to stunt her growth.


15 posted on 05/25/2014 12:30:57 PM PDT by Kirkwood (Zombie Hunter)
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To: SeekAndFind

In1969/70 in 6th grade I was 5’ 100lbs. I was by no stretch of the imagination fat. Today I would probably be in counseling.


16 posted on 05/25/2014 12:53:45 PM PDT by TalBlack (Evil doesn't have a day job.)
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To: SeekAndFind
Jeez, if she is overweight, I'd hate to see what Clay Matthews or Aaron Rogers would be...

Overweight my ass...

17 posted on 05/25/2014 1:15:54 PM PDT by ExCTCitizen (I'm ExCTCitizen and I approve this reply. If it does offend Libs, I'm NOT sorry...)
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To: SeekAndFind

“Fat”
by Weird Al
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t2mU6USTBRE


18 posted on 05/25/2014 1:20:38 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

The Six Levels of Fatness
by comedian Gabriel Iglesias
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=u5qM5kX2_C0

1. Big
2. Healthy
3. Husky
4. Fluffy
5. Damn!
6. Oh hell no!!!!!

Which one is she?


19 posted on 05/25/2014 1:24:16 PM PDT by Jack Hydrazine (Pubbies = national collectivists; Dems = international collectivists; We need a second party!)
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To: SeekAndFind

When will parents take back the schools? They are the tax payers. They vote for the school board. They are the classroom moms and volunteers. They are the parents of the students. Sorry, if parents continue to allow schools to run roughshod over them, they have no one to blame but themselves.


20 posted on 05/25/2014 2:01:03 PM PDT by bgill
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School boards have little power these days if they ant state and federal $$$


21 posted on 05/25/2014 2:03:08 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: SeekAndFind

More like needs a good meal.


22 posted on 05/25/2014 2:04:06 PM PDT by all the best (sat`~!)
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To: SeekAndFind

This is ridiculous.

But so is the author’s thinking:

Who could have possibly predicted that a group of curious pre-teens, having been handed mysterious notes for their parents carrying instructions not to open them, would go ahead and open them anyway?

If I were teaching 8-year-olds, yes, I would expect them to follow instructions. Talk about low expectations for students....


23 posted on 05/25/2014 2:32:55 PM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: SeekAndFind

she is not fat

and any mom worth her salt knows that growing kids chunk out right before they grow about 3-4 inches taller overnight.


24 posted on 05/25/2014 2:33:38 PM PDT by yldstrk ( My heroes have always been cowboys)
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To: SeekAndFind

People who don’t understand math shouldn’t be allowed to use a BMI chart, lord.

The BMI should not be used as a stand-alone tool to diagnose individuals, anyone who thinks it should be needs remedial math. Anyone who thinks it was designed for such a purpose needs to be shuffled off to an occupation where they’re not allowed to make decisions about other people’s health.

The BMI is a statistical measure - it is most useful when used for analysis involving a sample population, or when used along-side several other correlative tools to draw inferences and point out avenues for further examination about an individual. It is not, in and of itself, a useful diagnostic tool and should NEVER be used as the sole means of determining a course of medical intervention.

Illustrative example - I am enough of a statistical outlier as an individual that the BMI, if horribly misused as a stand-alone tool to evaluate an individual, would claim that I need to reach 0% body fat (which would be lethal to a human being) AND somehow figure out how to lose another 30 pounds or so before I reached a “healthy” BMI range - presumably by a below-the-knee amputation.

Repeat after me - the BMI is a statistical tool, extreme care must be taken when drawing conclusions about individuals by using this tool.

The BMI does not offer useful correlations for people on the extremes of the height spectrum, it does not measure actual body fat percentage, it does not measure bone density (which varies remarkably between populations, ethnic groups, families and individuals), further the BMI is a CORRELATIVE tool and results should not be misconstrued to imply that BMI is a causative factor that should be modified let alone the sole factor (note the obesity paradox).

People too dim to understand those essential concepts shouldn’t be providing medical advice - they’ll kill people if anyone were stupid enough to listen.


25 posted on 05/25/2014 4:33:31 PM PDT by jameslalor
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To: SeekAndFind

But the other thing is when you go here -

http://www.nhlbi.nih.gov/guidelines/obesity/BMI/bmicalc.htm

and enter her weight and height, she comes back with a BMI of 19.3, i.e. normal


26 posted on 05/25/2014 5:08:43 PM PDT by chaosagent (Remember, no matter how you slice it, forbidden fruit still tastes the sweetest!)
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