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To: Noamie
Saw a great chart that compared ideology not to a straight, linear Left-to-Right line, but as a circle. If you go faaaaaarrrrr enough to the right then you wind up back into Socialism. Nazi style.

This does not come from reason, but from the simple fact that the Communists labeled anybody who opposed them as "far right". Thus Nazis and Jeffersonians are both "far right".

A more rational spectrum would put those in favor of authoritarian state control on one end (putting Communists, Nazis, and fans of dictatorship in general on the same end), and those wanting minimal government on the other end.

20 posted on 05/25/2014 12:52:58 PM PDT by PapaBear3625 (You don't notice it's a police state until the police come for you.)
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To: PapaBear3625

“A more rational spectrum would put those in favor of authoritarian state control on one end (putting Communists, Nazis, and fans of dictatorship in general on the same end), and those wanting minimal government on the other end.”

That would definitely make more sense. The left and right don’t make a bit of sense when Communism and National Socialism are both big Government takeovers.


59 posted on 05/26/2014 4:51:35 AM PDT by FR_addict
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To: PapaBear3625
A more rational spectrum would put those in favor of authoritarian state control on one end (putting Communists, Nazis, and fans of dictatorship in general on the same end), and those wanting minimal government on the other end.

That's a "rational" spectrum in the US because the most pressing political debate is between large vs. small government. In Europe, statism is more or less a given, so the relevant political spectrum is framed in terms of issues like pro vs. anti-EU, pro vs. anti immigration, etc. From their perspective, you could equally well construct a political spectrum with multiculturalism/internationalism at one (Left) end of the spectrum and cultural conservatism/nationalism (Right) at the other.

69 posted on 05/26/2014 9:38:40 AM PDT by ek_hornbeck
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To: PapaBear3625

“This does not come from reason, but from the simple fact that the Communists labeled anybody who opposed them as “far right”. Thus Nazis and Jeffersonians are both “far right”.”

If you take the circular concept and put 2 random points on a circle then travel along its path in a direction to the right. Eventually you will hit both. It’s a circle.

That is not an “irrational” concept at all.

I agree with your “rational spectrum” just as much as the circular one interests me.


72 posted on 05/26/2014 9:55:00 AM PDT by Noamie
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