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Army Selects New Camouflage Pattern
Military.com ^ | May 23, 2014 | Matthew Cox

Posted on 05/25/2014 12:41:07 PM PDT by null and void

The U.S. Army is quietly putting the word out to commands that it is replacing its current Universal Camouflage Pattern with a pattern the service has owned for more than a decade.

The Army's senior leadership has selected Scorpion, a pattern similar to MultiCam that was developed around 2002, according to a source with knowledge of the decision.

The Army was poised to announce the results of its multi-year camouflage improvement effort nearly a year ago, but congressional language in the National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 2014 called on the Pentagon to put an end to the services branding their ranks with unique camouflage uniforms.

The Army has been considering replacing UCP with Crye Precision's MultiCam -- a pattern that has demonstrated consistent performance in multiple tests and was selected in 2010 for soldiers to wear in Afghanistan.

Army officials even tried to buy the rights to MultiCam but rejected Crye's figure of $25 million, according to Caleb Crye, owner of Crye Precision. Army officials also balked at paying for "printing fees" the company receives on MultiCam -- a small figure that amounts to about one percent of the 20 percent price hike uniform companies want to charge the Army for MultiCam.

And, ironically, in March 2013 the Army decided to drop the fifth finalist -- a government pattern developed at the Army's Natick Soldier Systems Center. The pattern, known as Scorpion, was too similar to one of the industry submissions, Army officials said.

The unique blend of greens, browns and tans has been a favorite of Special Operations Command for almost a decade. The Army selected MultiCam in 2010 as the clear winner over several other patterns to issue to soldiers deploying to Afghanistan.

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I guess a uniform manufacturer is ready for their quid pro quo
1 posted on 05/25/2014 12:41:07 PM PDT by null and void
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To: null and void

with all the necessary sensitivity training about queers, how did they find time to work on this ?


2 posted on 05/25/2014 12:42:30 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: kingattax

No pink in the pattern....


3 posted on 05/25/2014 12:44:58 PM PDT by tet68 ( " We would not die in that man's company, that fears his fellowship to die with us...." Henry V.)
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To: kingattax

It put them in close contact with the fashion industry...


4 posted on 05/25/2014 12:45:12 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void

This is ridiculous. The uniform system doesn’t need to be complicated. This is all so contractors can make millions that can be funneled into other pockets in kickbacks.

On a side note, it’s ridiculous for the Navy to have blue camo. They’re on ships. If the enemy sees the ship they know you’re there. If you’re not on the ship you’re not needing blue camo.

This whole logistics deal is stupid.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 12:45:17 PM PDT by Bogey78O (We had a good run. Coulda been great still.)
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To: Bogey78O

Blue camo makes sense for the navy as it makes it harder for the enemy to see you if you fall overboard.


6 posted on 05/25/2014 12:47:32 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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7 posted on 05/25/2014 12:47:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: Bogey78O
If you’re not on the ship you’re not needing blue camo.

Yes. The blue camo is especially handy to be wearing should you happen to fall overboard. It really helps them locate you in the water!

8 posted on 05/25/2014 12:48:40 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void

will there be a runway show with lights and music to model the new camo ?


9 posted on 05/25/2014 12:48:48 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: null and void

I am guessing that there will be a lawsuit from one of the commercial manufacturers over the similarity in patterns.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 12:48:57 PM PDT by USNBandit (sarcasm engaged at all times)
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To: null and void
Are tanks and artillery going to get new camouflage to match The New Army's diktats as well?


11 posted on 05/25/2014 12:49:23 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom
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To: null and void

I’m finishing up Ken Burn’s `Civil War’ on Netflix:
There was a story of the Union Army buying a large lot of boots for the infantry, but the shoes fell apart after just a couple hours of marching.
The manufacturer explained, “We thought these were meant for the cavalry ... “
Narrator: “During the war overnment contractors could get from the Federal government just about any price they had the guts to ask for.”
Wonder what they’d think of 25 million for a camo pattern?


12 posted on 05/25/2014 12:49:53 PM PDT by tumblindice (America's founding fathers: all armed conservatives)
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To: null and void

I would have expected to see some combination of Photoshop effects mixed with images of Benghazi witnesses in some of some sort of a mosaic pattern. This would be unbeatable due to the fact that when used it would make our military personnel nearly invisible. This is proven Obamatech. I’m surprised it isn’t being used here.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 12:49:59 PM PDT by InterceptPoint
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To: kingattax

14 posted on 05/25/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT by 2ndDivisionVet (I will raise $2Million USD for Cruz and/or Palin's next run, what will you do?)
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To: null and void

“Then Scorpion is just Multicam? No and Yes.”

http://www.hyperstealth.com/scorpion/


15 posted on 05/25/2014 12:58:18 PM PDT by BenLurkin (This is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion or satire; or both.)
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To: InterceptPoint
InterceptPoint:".. some combination of Photoshop effects mixed with images of Benghazi witnesses in some of some sort of a mosaic pattern.
This would be unbeatable due to the fact that when used it would make our military personnel nearly invisible"

There is too much of a scheduling problem to get a group photo ,
the FED Govt. is unable to coodinate the monthly, or more frequent , lie detector tests for a group photo op.

16 posted on 05/25/2014 1:02:15 PM PDT by Tilted Irish Kilt (Political Correctness is Tyranny .. with manners ! Charlton Heston)
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To: kingattax
with all the necessary sensitivity training about queers...

where's the lavender?

17 posted on 05/25/2014 1:03:22 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: null and void
The USN objects! Citing film tradition Hegel choses:


18 posted on 05/25/2014 1:03:53 PM PDT by Covenantor ("Men are ruled...by liars who refuse them news, and by fools who cannot govern." Chesterton)
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To: lightman

19 posted on 05/25/2014 1:06:15 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: null and void

It’s a good thing I don’t know photo shop ... I’d be banned forever


20 posted on 05/25/2014 1:11:20 PM PDT by knarf (I say things that are true .. I have no proof .. but they're true.)
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To: null and void

Saw three guys get out of a car the other day in really bright, almost dark neon blue camouflage outfits.

I thought, “WTF! Where in the world are these guys gonna be fighting? Is there some conflict going on in a lapis lazuli mine somewhere?”

Our military uniforms - dress, utility, and combat - all used to project an air of quiet competence back in the day when we won wars. Now it’s all flashy camo, patches up the ying yang, and more ornaments than a tacky Christmas tree - sad.

Color me an old fart nostalgic for what once was.


21 posted on 05/25/2014 1:13:18 PM PDT by dagogo redux (A whiff of primitive spirits in the air, harbingers of an impending descent into the feral.)
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To: null and void

Gonna send full color photos to al-quaeda?


22 posted on 05/25/2014 1:19:03 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: null and void
I fully expected this to be their new camp patter, in light of the new "enlightened", gay-friendly atmosphere:


23 posted on 05/25/2014 1:19:04 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: null and void

all these changes in uniforms just reinforces to me how bought and paid for our politicians are....I recall Clintoon ordered massive uniform changes just before he left office, but maybe I’m wrong about it...


24 posted on 05/25/2014 1:19:09 PM PDT by cherry
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And where will they be made? China?


25 posted on 05/25/2014 1:20:42 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: Bogey78O

It’s all about kick-backs and another form of corporate welfare. What is the justification for a “new camo”? Is the most recent “digital” camo ineffective? No. Is this new pattern better at concealing? No.

Here’s the skinny... Every time the camo pattern is changed, and the deadline set for changeover, every uniform has to be replaced. Most of the cost is on the back of the soldiers themselves - who have to pay for the new uniforms. And keep in mind - the majority of soldiers make less than the loony Left’s definition of a “living wage”.


26 posted on 05/25/2014 1:22:23 PM PDT by TheBattman (Isn't the lesser evil... still evil?)
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To: BenLurkin

Thanks!


27 posted on 05/25/2014 1:22:51 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: null and void

“National Defense Authorization Act for Fiscal 2014 called on the Pentagon to put an end to the services branding their ranks with unique camouflage uniforms.”

Soon it will be the global camouflage uniform to wear along with the other nations going against Israel in the end times battle.


28 posted on 05/25/2014 1:28:44 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: null and void

Please tell me this is just Army and not the Marines. My son is hot out of boot camp and had to buy two sets of desert and forest camo. And that’s not to mention the dress blues and greens and shirts and training gear...


29 posted on 05/25/2014 1:33:31 PM PDT by Excellence (Marine mom since April 11, 2014)
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To: null and void

Does it come in pink?


30 posted on 05/25/2014 1:33:32 PM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: null and void

We swarmed Europe and the Pacific theatre with men, guns, and massive firepower. Won unconditional surrender on two fronts, de-nazified/shintofied them, and came home. And most of them wore the drab tones of their respective branches. Not “autumn random twigs”.


31 posted on 05/25/2014 1:33:45 PM PDT by SpaceBar
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To: Excellence

I can’t.


32 posted on 05/25/2014 1:51:05 PM PDT by null and void (When was the last time you heard anyone say: "It's a free country"?)
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To: Excellence

In my experience, any uniforms you already own are allowed to be worn until unserviceable. For example, I continued to wear olive drab t-shirts long after they switched to brown.


33 posted on 05/25/2014 1:54:11 PM PDT by FoxInSocks ("Hope is not a course of action." -- M. O'Neal, USMC)
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To: null and void

enuf already - back to the olive green fatigues

the armed forces purchasers are as bad as university book stores that insist on changing text books every year to make the printers richer and better the kickbacks given.


34 posted on 05/25/2014 2:08:01 PM PDT by elpadre (AfganistaMr Obama said the goal was to "disrupt, dismantle and defeat al-hereQaeda" and its allies.)
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I swear to the Almighty, the US Army spends more energy and money screwing around with their uniforms than A clique of teenage girls before the Prom. I like the Marine way: the Commandant says, we do. End of story. Downsize G-4 maybe?

TC


35 posted on 05/25/2014 2:22:35 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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There’s no money to fund VA hospitals because they’re spending tax dollars on this hooey.


36 posted on 05/25/2014 2:30:40 PM PDT by bgill
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

In the Army, uniforms used to be the responsibility of the Quartermaster Corps. Bad mistake. Then we turned it over to the NCO Corps, or more accurately, to a group of Sergeants Major at HQ DA and Major Commands. Another bad mistake that gave us the current Mall Cop uniform for Class A’s.

In the Marine Corps, the uniform is commanders’ business and they have always gotten it right.

The current Multi-cam based combat uniform used in Afghanistan is a good uniform and I’m glad that the Army has found a way to avoid paying royalties for it. Next step is to go back to looking like soldiers, not Mall Cops.


37 posted on 05/25/2014 2:31:32 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Oh, lovely, a pink panzer.


38 posted on 05/25/2014 2:54:14 PM PDT by PLMerite (Shut the Beyotch Down! Burn, baby, burn!)
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To: Covenantor

Good movie, fair series.


39 posted on 05/25/2014 2:54:16 PM PDT by wally_bert (There are no winners in a game of losers. I'm Tommy Joyce, welcome to the Oriental Lounge.)
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To: null and void

The military should just go back to olive drab and khaki. They worked well in the World Wars, Korea, and Vietnam, so changing is just stupid.


40 posted on 05/25/2014 2:58:03 PM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: Bogey78O

“This is all so contractors can make millions that can be funneled into other pockets in kickbacks.”

It is also massive makework, which during these times of high unemployment must also be a factor. Fake economy...


41 posted on 05/25/2014 3:05:29 PM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: Maudeen

“And where will they be made? China?”

How else will the Chinese implant RFID chips in the material so they can monitor the location of all American troops on the battlefield?


42 posted on 05/25/2014 3:14:02 PM PDT by moovova
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To: null and void

And somehow the Israelis continue to kick ass with plain old OD green....


43 posted on 05/25/2014 3:17:48 PM PDT by gura (If Allah is so great, why does he need fat sexually confused fanboys to do his dirty work? -iowahawk)
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To: centurion316

Interesting you should say that. Over the last few years, I’ve. Been buds with several Sgts Major in the G-4. Honored warriors, all. But they spent an inordinate amount of their time and energy dealing with uniform changes being offered by vendors and considered by three and four star GOs. Is this really what we want senior leadership concerned with? Imagine Patton, Eisenhower, Ridgeway and their like dealing with this.

TC


44 posted on 05/25/2014 3:19:20 PM PDT by Pentagon Leatherneck
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To: Pentagon Leatherneck

Certainly General Casey did no better than any of the rest of the Army fashion mavens, so rank is probably not a factor. What is important is that leadership understand the role and value of the uniform. The Marine Corps does this the best. The Army and Air Force, not so much.


45 posted on 05/25/2014 3:23:28 PM PDT by centurion316
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To: moovova

Good point!!!!!!!!!


46 posted on 05/25/2014 3:44:50 PM PDT by Maudeen ("End Times Warrior - Just a Sinner Saved by Grace")
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To: null and void

I have to admit that I was really hesitant to click on this link. I was thinking soldiers trying to keep themselves from being seen in the flower fields of Holland.


47 posted on 05/25/2014 4:47:31 PM PDT by kempster
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To: null and void

Where are they made?


48 posted on 05/25/2014 5:11:57 PM PDT by onedoug
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Another battle-dress uniform for four star generals sitting in the Pentagon to wear thousands of miles from the battlefield.

In the biggest war ever, and the one we one, I never had to see General Marshall or Admiral King wearing battle uniforms.

Even Ike who was commanding the invading allied armies in Europe, or MacArthur in the Pacific did not have to dress themselves up as front line warriors like these modern politically correct ones do.


49 posted on 05/25/2014 8:13:21 PM PDT by oldbill
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“won”, not “one”.
Damn spellcheck.


50 posted on 05/25/2014 8:14:57 PM PDT by oldbill
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