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UKIP surge in early euro election results
BBC News ^ | 5/25/2014 | BBC News

Posted on 05/25/2014 2:39:53 PM PDT by Nextrush

UKIP appears to be on course to top the poll in the European elections, with the first results starting to come in.....

(Excerpt) Read more at bbc.com ...


TOPICS: Front Page News; Politics/Elections; United Kingdom
KEYWORDS: amnesty; immigration; ukip
The "not Republican Party" of real conservatives in the UK has beaten the "Republican Party" of fake conservatives in the UK, it appears...
1 posted on 05/25/2014 2:39:53 PM PDT by Nextrush
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To: Nextrush

As a NYer, I was unsurprised to see there was no mention of the Ukip elections in the Sunday Times. In fact, the entire Week in Review, possibly the most important part of the paper, had nothing on the British elections. It was all dedicated to trans sexual politics. That paper is psychotic.


2 posted on 05/25/2014 2:47:40 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: Nextrush

Can UKIP save England from the Muslims over-running it and bleeding
it’s treasure dry?

I hope so.


3 posted on 05/25/2014 2:51:50 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: tennmountainman

I kip has almost no chance of getting many seats in the UK parliament I am told


4 posted on 05/25/2014 2:59:59 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: miss marmelstein

“That paper is psychotic.”

My dear miss mamelstein, I can’t but agree.

The second to last time I bought the Sunday NY Times (and this was probably about 6 or 7 years ago) it was so stupid it made my hair hurt.

We bought it for packing material, but obviously the magazine and book review are no good for that, so I was reading them.

The magazine featured 2 stories, one about how some kid was a teenage commie, in the 80s, attending The Little Red Schoolhouse (I’m sure you’ll be familiar with that). He felt oppressed because of Regan, or something.

The other featured some true culture vultures who evidently had torn through the apartment of the deceased Susan Sontag (the greatest philosopher of our time! TM!) and reproduced every ephemeral scribble she scribbled. Of course they all said, be gay, have sex a lot, some stuff like that.

My poor father must be rolling in his grave. As my mom said: to him the sun rises and sets in the pages of the NY Times.

But for sure it didn’t use to be so psychotic and so mind-numbingly s.t.u.p.i.d.

Of course, they do still run a good article one in a while, I do have to say that.


5 posted on 05/25/2014 3:18:43 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: GeronL
Never can tell in a General Election what will happen if the People are **ss**-off enough.
The Monster-Raving Party has had several Seats over the years.
The Labour block vote is almost a forgone conclusion ,so only the conservative ,lib-dem ,and ‘others’ votes are up for grabs.
Most of the South is in conservative hands ,so anything is possible.
If your prediction is correct, i suspect that it is, the vote splitting could lead to a Labour landslide victory. Ugh.
6 posted on 05/25/2014 3:21:32 PM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
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To: jocon307

Yup. The Times has been crazy for a lifetime although under little Pinch it has become obsessed with sick sexual practices and billionaire real estate.

I bought it today thinking, well, I’ll look at the book review and maybe the food section. BIG MISTAKE!!!!


7 posted on 05/25/2014 3:49:56 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: GeronL

But seats on the EU. Happily, Cameron and that metrosexual, Ed Miliband, are running scared.


8 posted on 05/25/2014 3:51:04 PM PDT by miss marmelstein (Richard Lives Yet!)
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To: GeronL

Who is telling you this? The same folks who got their teeth kicked in
by UKIP?

For a perspective, this vote is historic in England.
This is a movement, not a fad.


9 posted on 05/25/2014 3:52:47 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Nextrush

I plead ignorance - could somebody inform me about what UKIP means? Thanks.


10 posted on 05/25/2014 4:16:51 PM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: beethovenfan

UK Independent Party

Seems to be part of a trend across Europe, whereby people express their discontent with immigration, for one thing.


11 posted on 05/25/2014 4:19:59 PM PDT by truth_seeker
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To: Nextrush

UK’s last chance. Either they kick the savages out or there’s no more UK.


12 posted on 05/25/2014 4:30:36 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: miss marmelstein

Too right. It’s become the Guardian with a slightly better reputation.


13 posted on 05/25/2014 4:45:02 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: jocon307

She was, of course, referring to The Sunday Times of London. Different newspaper if not entirely different political outlook.


14 posted on 05/25/2014 4:46:30 PM PDT by relictele (Principiis obsta & Finem respice - Resist The Beginnings & Consider The End)
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To: GeronL

You are largely correct. The importance of UKIP is the influence they have on other parties. They partly drag the major parties to a more anti European Union stance.

They may also destroy the Conservatives chances at the General Election alowing Labour to get in.


15 posted on 05/25/2014 4:48:03 PM PDT by Scottishlibertarian
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To: miss marmelstein

Not entirely due to their bias — though no doubt they will try to bury the results tomorrow — the vote was on Thursday in UK and a handful of other “countries”, today in the majority. So Thursday’s results were embargoed till tonight.


16 posted on 05/25/2014 4:58:41 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Scottishlibertarian
Yes, but it's all good at least for now. Yes, this is an almighty protest vote, but it's almost the tipping point for the Westminster elections. In a 3 party fight (and it is now 3 party) 30% means 20-40% in different seats and 40% is all it'll take to get some seats there.

What Nigel Farage really needs now is some backup - like maybe Daniel Hannan (MEP) jumping ship from the Cons, and maybe some bluedog MP from the Labs (if they have any?). If he can break from the one-man band appearance, he can kill off the Tories and Libs, and get Britain back to a true contrast between Lab and real Conservatives.

As I think you imply, it's a huge problem for the Cons, and they either respond or start to die.

17 posted on 05/25/2014 5:07:10 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Riflema

the tories are the British version of rinos so if they die its no loss


18 posted on 05/25/2014 5:52:58 PM PDT by The Right wing Infidel
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To: The Right wing Infidel

And the sooner the better. And as with the RNC, one just hopes the organization (such as it is) and cash can be bequeathed to someone who will make better use of it.


19 posted on 05/25/2014 6:04:35 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Riflema
I wouldn't disagree with much of what you say. I don't think anyone truly knows what the influence/result of the UKIP rise will be. Right now I view them as a positive force, a lighted fuse underneath all major parties. I still believe a very possible outcome will be in the election of Ed bloody Miliband. I hope UK voters are not THAT daft.

Also interesting to see the rise of anti-European parties elsewhere in Europe, mostly on the Right but a significant rise on the far Left too.

20 posted on 05/25/2014 6:27:01 PM PDT by Scottishlibertarian
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To: Scottishlibertarian
Regarding the Miliband, thankfully, it looks like there's a meme building that the guy is "weird". The very fact such a thing is happening is significant in itself, it means a significant chink in the Lab armor/PR operation, which, unfortunately, is where these battles are won and lost nowadays.

I think UKIP is a symptom, not a driver. A symptom of a growing loss of faith in the elite/establishment. If they can capitalize on that, God Bless 'em. Someone WILL capitalize on it.

21 posted on 05/25/2014 6:39:07 PM PDT by Riflema
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To: Scottishlibertarian

If the Tories lose it is their own fault


22 posted on 05/25/2014 7:31:42 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: GeronL

The Tories have no one to blame but themselves as they struggle to claim they share the same concerns as UKIP.

The Home Secretary, who oversees immigration, Theresa May was trying to convince people on television during a Sunday interview show that she has a target level of 100-thousand per year, but admitted it was becoming “more difficult”.

The truth is that 212,000 people by official estimate are coming into the UK last year. Many average blokes think a lot more are in the country than the official figures say.


23 posted on 05/25/2014 9:28:15 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE= INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: beethovenfan

United Kingdom Independence Party....independence from the European Union rules, regulations, currency etc. etc. etc.


24 posted on 05/25/2014 9:36:55 PM PDT by Nextrush (AFFORDABLE CARE ACT=HEALTHCARE= INDUSTRY BAILOUT ACT)
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To: moose07; GeronL; AuH2ORepublican; BillyBoy; fieldmarshaldj; UKrepublican

UKIP’s rise makes me wish that the instant runoff voting referendum had passed.

UKIP could come in third in the popular vote and win very few or even possibly zero seats while Labour gets a paltry first place finish but a goodly majority of seats.

Latest polling for next years election

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Opinion_polling_for_the_next_United_Kingdom_general_election#2014

Well see what happens.

Good news for these EU elections though, UKIP even got a seat in Scotland. The numbers I’m seeing show +10 UKIP seats plus Labour gaining and the Tories losing 7 seats respectively. Lib Dems lost almost all their seats. LOL. Some are calling for Nick Clegg’s head for leading his party to ruin.


25 posted on 05/25/2014 10:13:42 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: relictele

No, I don’t think so, she said “as a NYer” and mentioned “The Week in Review” section. And I’m pretty sure the London Times had coverage of the elections there. It’s not quite that bad yet, I don’t think.


26 posted on 05/25/2014 10:46:42 PM PDT by jocon307
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To: Impy

It does look bleak for LDP

Heh


27 posted on 05/25/2014 10:50:07 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Impy

Thanks for the link.
I doubt the seat count will change much for Conservatives or labour , but the next coalition may well be with UKiP.
Well my vote is probably ukip, as I can’t stand the sight of Cameron, or his love of the eu.
Let’s pray Labour don’t obtain a majority. ..we cannot afford those fools in power again.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 2:32:08 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
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To: miss marmelstein
Thats ok. I dont mind that. It only exposes them for what they are - a cultural, liberal, elitist collective that is totally unconnected to the lives and worries of the majority of the population.

The sad thing is they are being honest. To them, trans sexual politics really are a hot issue and by discussing it fully they really do believe they are addressing the concerns and opinions of the culture. Actually they are...its just that their culture consists of the same people who live where they do, think like they do, and were educated in the same way and at the same establishments they were.

In fact, for the overwhelming majority of people the intricacies of "trans sexual politics" are, at best, a side issue - even amongst those who support the NYT's liberal contensions. Most people are more worried about the economy, unemployment, the supplanting of cultural norms, rampant illegal immigration, or the erosion of freedom. But those who dare to raise those concerns are simply dismissed as "racists", "homophobes", "religious fanatics" and so on. Well in a democracy you simply cannot dismiss the legitimate concerns of the majority in such an offhand way. If you do, eventually people will begin to revolt against not only the elite, but the very political process itself.

That is exactly what has happened in Britain with UKIP. Its not just disgust with Europe, as the elites are already posturing. It's a reaction to a widespread and endemic democratic deficiency. Politicians on both sides of the pond have steadily become one step removed from the issues. Increasingly they do not listen to "we the people". They listen to people who claim to speak for "we the people". Thinktanks. Lobbyists. Union reps. Pressure groups like ACORN, or the NAACP, or indeed even the NRA. It doesn't matter if you happen to agree with the stances of any of those organisations, it must surely be true that none of them should be the ones calling the shots. We the people should be doing that.

UKIP's success is largely based on bypassing all those intermediaries and appealing directly to the people. There will be a rich political reward for any American politician who is prepared, and able to do the same.

29 posted on 05/26/2014 3:31:46 AM PDT by Vanders9
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To: Vanders9
Nicely put. I think UKIP is the current vessel for this disenfranchisement. And that is what it truly is: the exercise of the electoral franchise has become a ritual meaning nothing in fact, just choosing between shades of the elite.

As for UKIP, they are blessed in having a spokesman/leader that is truly able to express himself unfiltered and who walks and talks like a lot of the silent majority. However, what they desperately need is a full bench or even the nucleus of one to lock in their gains.

30 posted on 05/26/2014 6:53:49 AM PDT by Riflema
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To: tennmountainman

They will be fought tooth and nail by the establishment who are married to the idea of violent “Asian” immigrants.


31 posted on 05/26/2014 2:00:27 PM PDT by Sam Gamgee (May God have mercy upon my enemies, because I won't. - Patton)
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To: Sam Gamgee

Of course they will. They have been called racists, loonies etc.
That did not work.
UKIP’s success will draw more true Brits to their party, which in turn
will help them gain more power.

And unlike our Tea Party, which is a collection of like minded individuals,
UKIP is an actual party in addition to like minded individuals.


32 posted on 05/26/2014 2:25:39 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: Riflema

He also seems to enjoy a good pint of English beer.


33 posted on 05/26/2014 2:29:08 PM PDT by tennmountainman (Just Say No To Obamacare)
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To: GeronL; moose07; BillyBoy; UKrepublican

Polling shows Clegg would lose his own seat (to Labour with the Tories beating him for 2nd place) if the election were today.

http://www.theguardian.com/politics/2014/may/26/nick-clegg-and-lib-dems-face-battle-for-survival


34 posted on 05/27/2014 6:02:37 PM PDT by Impy (RED=COMMUNIST, NOT REPUBLICAN)
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To: Impy
>> Polling shows Clegg would lose his own seat (to Labour with the Tories beating him for 2nd place) if the election were today. <<

Well I guess since he's Deputy prime minister, its not as fun as the Prime Minister losing his own seat. Hope it happens, though.

35 posted on 05/27/2014 6:15:50 PM PDT by BillyBoy (Looking at the weather lately, I could really use some 'global warming' right now!)
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To: Impy; BillyBoy
Couldn’t happen to a nicer Chap. LOL
Roll-on the Election, the lefty removal tool is in full swing.
36 posted on 05/28/2014 4:18:52 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
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To: Vanders9

I’ll second that ,Mr Vanders.
Excellent appraisal of the truth. :)


37 posted on 05/28/2014 4:24:06 AM PDT by moose07 (the truth will out ,one day. UKiP or Tea Party on.)
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To: moose07

Thank you!


38 posted on 05/28/2014 4:17:52 PM PDT by Vanders9
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