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What Mass Killers Want—And How to Stop Them
The Wall Street Journal ^ | 11/08/2013 | Ari N. Schulman

Posted on 05/26/2014 8:31:14 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles

Rampage shooters crave the spotlight, and we should do everything possible to deprive them of it. How might journalists and police change their practices to discourage mass shootings? First, they need to do more to deprive the killer of an audience: Never publish a shooter's propaganda. Hide their names and faces. Don't report on biography or speculate on motive. Minimize specifics and gory details. No photos or videos of the event. Talk about the victims but minimize images of grieving families. Decrease the saturation.

(Excerpt) Read more at online.wsj.com ...


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Miscellaneous; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: mass; massmurders; murder

1 posted on 05/26/2014 8:31:14 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Because ignorance really is bliss!

(see tagline for an equally workable solution)


2 posted on 05/26/2014 8:33:51 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

News people can’t help themselves... ‘If it bleeds, it leads’ - Water Cronkite.

William Randolf Hearst once said the the Spanish American war saved his newspaper from collapsing. And he was certainly accused of fanning the flames of war more than once.

Mind you this article is accurate, deprive these people of a platform to ‘expose’ and publicize themselves and they’ll fade away into the dark of night. There’s nothing like being ignored to drive a narcissist nuts.


3 posted on 05/26/2014 8:35:36 AM PDT by The Working Man
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Said this a long time ago. Was roundly mocked.


4 posted on 05/26/2014 8:36:35 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

“There is a growing consensus among researchers that, whether or not the perpetrators are fully aware of it, they are following what has become a ready-made, free-floating template for young men to resolve their rage and express their sense of personal grandiosity.”

Yes, I have expressed this here before but much more clumsily. Our mass media presents, even advertises, this solution for the disturbed to follow.

Most people can name the perp and know lots about his miserable life but can’t think of a single victims name. The victim’s families are either vague blurs or new-found spokesmen for government control of all aspects of our lives.

Want the President of the United States to say your name? Want a thousand “news analysts” to pore over your manifesto in public? Want to be, finally, “understood”? Want people to see your victims families cry and wail as proof of your power? Here, take this “assault rifle”* and we’ll make you famous worldwide forever!

*We won’t help you if you use a single-shot shotgun, it’s gotta at least have a magazine.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 8:44:51 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: Lazamataz

Ya, Laz, been there.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 8:45:16 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I don't think this guy knows what he's talking about.

Anyone in law enforcement will tell you that their biggest fear is a person who goes on a crime spree who fully intends to die in the process (or at the end of it) -- because there's really nothing that can be done to deter that mutant.

This is what happens when hell no longer exists.

7 posted on 05/26/2014 8:46:46 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Alberta's Child

Exactly.

No sense of eternal consequences for action = license to kill.

“If God is dead, all things are permissible.”


8 posted on 05/26/2014 8:49:51 AM PDT by TigerClaws
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The drive for ever-tightening social control is the main reason the press helps the mass killer to achieve his goals.

If we do as the article suggests and start to bury these events, anonymize the killer, and don’t say what brand of ammo he used, the public at large may realize that the most common use of firearms in the USA is target shooting and plinking, with mass killings making up a few parts per billion of shooting activity.

By doing what they do they ensure a steady stream of bloody propaganda for the disarmament crowd.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 8:50:43 AM PDT by DBrow
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

That would help, but . . .

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SzT10MSgKtU

I make my living off the evening news
Just give me something
Something I can use
People love it when you lose
They love dirty laundry

Well, I coulda been an actor
But I wound up here
I just have to look good
I don’t have to be clear
Come and whisper in my ear
Give us dirty laundry . . .

We got the bubble headed
Bleached blonde
Comes on at five
She can tell you ‘bout the plane crash
With a gleam in her eye
It’s interesting when people die
Give us dirty laundry

Can we film the operation
Is the head dead yet
You know the boys in the newsroom
Got a running bet
Get the widow on the set
We need dirty laundry

You don’t really need to find out
What’s going on
You don’t really want to know
Just how far it’s gone
Just leave well enough alone
Eat your dirty laundry . . .

Dirty little secrets
Dirty little lies
We got our dirty little fingers
In everybody’s pie
We love to cut you down to size
We love dirty laundry

We can do the Innuendo
We can dance and sing
When it’s said and done
We haven’t told you a thing
We all know that Crap is King
Give us dirty laundry


10 posted on 05/26/2014 8:54:50 AM PDT by Pollster1 ("Shall not be infringed" is unambiguous.)
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To: The Working Man
News people can’t help themselves... ‘If it bleeds, it leads’ - Water Cronkite.

They provide what people want. Curiosity is where the problem begins.

11 posted on 05/26/2014 8:55:12 AM PDT by St_Thomas_Aquinas ( Isaiah 22:22, Matthew 16:19, Revelation 3:7)
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To: The Working Man

“There’s nothing like being ignored to drive a narcissist nuts.”

If we could just ignore B0...


12 posted on 05/26/2014 8:56:25 AM PDT by Zuse (I am disrupted! I am offended! I am insulted! I am outraged!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The recent murders in Cal may be demonstrating that certain medications are having some very bad effects and that’s what should be investigated not just blame it on guns.


13 posted on 05/26/2014 9:03:04 AM PDT by mosesdapoet (Serious contribution pause.Please continue onto meaningless venting no one reads.)
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To: mosesdapoet

“....certain medications are having some very bad effects...”

I don’t know, there are probably thousands, maybe tens of thousands of people on those same medications.

Now pretty clearly this kid was off his rocker, but I’m not sure that’s true of all mass/serial murderers.

That black guy who did those sniper shootings in the DC area (and killed a few other people iirc) I don’t remember him being particularly insane.

These stories get a lot of publicity because they are shocking, yes, but also because they don’t happen very much.

As someone pointed out here yesterday the amount of killings that go on in the black ghettos every day dwarf the death toll of these events. Heck, they dwarf the death toll of 9/11. But they are generally not considered newsworthy. To some extent that’s due to the fact that most of the time the people who get killed are just a scummy as the killers and to some extent because the MSM hates to say anyone who isn’t white is a criminal, but also because they happen all the time and so they really aren’t “news”.


14 posted on 05/26/2014 9:11:52 AM PDT by jocon307
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
So this guy wanted the world to know how big a loser he was? He wanted everyone to conclude he was socially and sexually inept and probably homosexual to boot? He wanted the world to know he was out of touch with reality? Because that's what he got.


15 posted on 05/26/2014 9:22:03 AM PDT by gitmo (If your theology doesn't become your biography, what good is it?)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

First rule of newspaper publishing(and MSM news)...”IF IT BLEEDS, IT LEADS!”


16 posted on 05/26/2014 9:22:25 AM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: Alberta's Child

AMEN, you got that right.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 9:23:43 AM PDT by Biggirl (“Go, do not be afraid, and serve”-Pope Francis)
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To: Pollster1
Oh yea. Kick em when there up. Kick em when there down. Kick em when there up. Kick em all around.

Pretty much sums up most of the news today. The Eagles had it right.

18 posted on 05/26/2014 9:30:10 AM PDT by mc5cents (Pray for America)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
The only problem with this theory is that the killer is usually dead. That makes it difficult for them to enjoy the infamy.

What these killers really want is power, even temporary, over others. They can't get it any other way except through the use of weapons.

You see the same sort of thing from leftists. The left are always going on about how they're victims of the powerful. The state's only real tool is violence, which the left are eager to use on others.

19 posted on 05/26/2014 9:59:48 AM PDT by freerepublicchat
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Hide their names and faces. Don't report on biography or speculate on motive. Minimize specifics ...

No. Most (all?) mass shooters in the past couple of decades have been so-called "progressives" or democrats or had been raised {snort} in such households. Modern day liberalism is a mental disorder and mass shootings are a side-effect of it. The liberals do not get off this easy - hiding the failures of their ideology in the name of trying to "help."

20 posted on 05/26/2014 10:13:27 AM PDT by ThunderSleeps (Stop obarma now! Stop the hussein - insane agenda!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Fame is what they CRAVE!DENY IT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!


21 posted on 05/26/2014 10:16:17 AM PDT by bandleader
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To: null and void

Its not ignorance. It desensationalizing. Your idea is trivial.


22 posted on 05/26/2014 10:48:24 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

There is actually a paradox in play, in that if an armed citizen double taps the serial killer early on, the murderer does not get the serial killer label. He is just an ordinary murderer, and a dead one.

Though I suppose that if after the fact, the murderer has left some message indicating he *wanted* to be a serial killer, he might be counted among them, but as a lesser light to those who actually were serial killers. A wannabee.

But his accolades matter far less to those who were his intended victims than does the continuation of their lives.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 10:48:44 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: null and void

Its not ignorance. It desensationalizing. Your idea is trivial.


24 posted on 05/26/2014 10:50:36 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

This is what I have been saying! When the papers publish the scum’s “manifesto” they encourage the next deranged POS to murder and publish his “manifesto.”


25 posted on 05/26/2014 10:50:43 AM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: Alberta's Child

The perps of these mass murders KNOW they will gain fame & infamy. The picture how it will be. How they went out in a blaze of glory. Take away the fame and you take a way a big possible motive. IMO


26 posted on 05/26/2014 10:57:37 AM PDT by ReaganÜberAlles (Remember, you can't spell "progressive" without "SS".)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

All these suggestions are just too hard to attempt. Couldn’t we just ban all guns, declare the problem solved, and relax?


27 posted on 05/26/2014 11:04:43 AM PDT by DPMD
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Yes, I do believe that if there was no, or little, coverage of the event, there would be fewer of them. There really seems to be a sick cult of one-upmanship in these tragedies, and it doesn’t help that the media start placing blame before any of the details are known. They should stay pretty much local events for several days. Not only that, but it would prevent the circus stunts of gun-control, etc. from having a heyday. No issue ever gets the light of day truth-seeking these days. It’s plain sick.


28 posted on 05/26/2014 11:15:33 AM PDT by Shery (in APO Land)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

The latest homicidal maniac didn’t seem to be after the notoriety. By his own words, he was just righting a wrong and an injustice.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 11:16:59 AM PDT by Ted Grant
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To: Ted Grant

And become a GOD in the process. He’ll be on the cover of the Rolling Stone.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 11:20:18 AM PDT by TsonicTsunami08 (SEND BITCOIN 1CYfujvffxKKPHKvrQvLP3CDb3Z5Lu7LwM)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
I think it's sound policy to focus on the victims in all murder cases, especially when the perp takes that walk to the death chamber. Lots less sympathy for a murderer if the pictures of his victims take his place in the news stories.

It isn't a cure, though. The UCSB guy - no, I'm not naming him - was incredibly disturbed even by the standards of conventional psychiatry. He had seen two professionals, a psychiatrist and a psychologist, and at least two counselors, and none of them picked up on just how dangerous the guy was. The police who interviewed him didn't. But you can see the spiders crawling in his brain when you read his document.

31 posted on 05/26/2014 11:28:56 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: The Working Man

“News people can’t help themselves..........”


CNN——MH370

:-)

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32 posted on 05/26/2014 11:33:46 AM PDT by Mears
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To: Alberta's Child
Anyone in law enforcement will tell you that their biggest fear is a person who goes on a crime spree who fully intends to die in the process (or at the end of it) -- because there's really nothing that can be done to deter that mutant.

That's what makes Islamists so dangerous.

33 posted on 05/26/2014 11:40:17 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

I don’t think people who are that insane have any coherent idea of what they want other than wanting to lash out and cause pain.


34 posted on 05/26/2014 11:50:24 AM PDT by TigersEye ("No man left behind" is more than an Army Ranger credo it's the character of America.)
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

What mass killers want?

UNARMED VICTIMS!!!


35 posted on 05/26/2014 12:03:48 PM PDT by Organic Panic
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To: ReaganÜberAlles
Perhaps. But it would be a total blast watching the Hollywood elites trying to explain how their guns are A-OK.

But but but but we can't make movies or TV shows without guns! they'd wail.

We'd blandly say: Ah yes. I remember all the gun fights in The Sound of Music, and that big gun battle in The Wizard of Oz, and the shootout in It's a Wonderful Life? Classic, who could forget that!

But we don't make movies like that anymore!!!

Precisely...

36 posted on 05/26/2014 12:37:41 PM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: Mears

Yes, exactly... a very good case in point.


37 posted on 05/26/2014 12:46:54 PM PDT by The Working Man
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

A correction to my last - apparently at least one of the Docs he saw did report him to authorities. Mea culpa.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 12:49:44 PM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: ReaganÜberAlles

Yes, yes, yes!
However, the media will not go along. A few will, but that’s not enough. They all have to do what is suggested.

I know the media. They live and thrive on hype, blood, fear, suffering and death. There is no chance they will suddenly get responsible and do what is right for the world.

And so there will be more mass murders, more manifestos in the papers, and more mass murders, and books, and magazine cover photos, and more manifestos, and more movies.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 1:17:12 PM PDT by I want the USA back (Media: completely irresponsible. Complicit in the destruction of this country.)
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To: freerepublicchat

“That makes it difficult for them to enjoy the infamy. “

They write these long manifestos, prepare the YouTube vids and facebook posts, planning that the media will obsess over them after the killer kills himself. They would not do that for a simple suicide, but the pattern is fixed- commit a horrible crime with semiautomatic weapons then kill yourself, and we’ll show your manifesto to millions and talk about you for at least a week.

They know it will be done posthumously, and plan the worst event they can to meet the criteria of the mass media.

I agree that power is part of it, but most of these killers have a deadpan look while they are working their evil, not faces of rage or even enjoyment. Any power they wield in this world is over in 20 minutes, but CNN coverage will be hundreds of hours.


40 posted on 05/26/2014 7:32:15 PM PDT by DBrow
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