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Pope Francis Refers to 'State of Palestine' on Holy Land Trip, Calls Mahmoud Abbas a 'Man of Peace'
The Blaze ^ | May. 25, 2014 | Dave Urbanski

Posted on 05/26/2014 11:02:21 AM PDT by VitacoreVision

Pope Francis delivered a powerful boost of support to the Palestinians during a Holy Land pilgrimage Sunday, repeatedly backing their statehood aspirations, praying solemnly at Israel’s controversial separation barrier and calling the stalemate in peace efforts “unacceptable.”

Palestinian officials hailed Francis’ decision to refer to the “state of Palestine.” In its official program, the Vatican referred to President Mahmoud Abbas as the president of the “state of Palestine,” and his Bethlehem office as the “presidential palace.” He pointedly called Abbas a “man of peace.” ...

“Coming to Bethlehem and flying to Bethlehem from Jordan shows solidarity with the Palestinian people, which is wonderful. We need that,” said Samar Sakkakin, a 52-year-old Palestinian American from Canton, Michigan.

In November 2012, the U.N. General Assembly overwhelmingly recognized a “state of Palestine” in the West Bank, Gaza and east Jerusalem — lands Israel captured in the 1967 war — as a non-member observer. Israel objects to the Palestinian campaign, saying it is an attempt to bypass negotiations.

“I am with you,” he told a group of Palestinian children at a stop in Bethlehem’s Deheishe refugee camp. He also held a private lunch with five Palestinian families who say they have been harmed by Israeli policies. ...

Jubilant Palestinians cheered Francis as he arrived in Bethlehem’s Manger Square, shouting “Viva al-Baba!” or “Long live the pope!” Giant Palestinian flags in red, white, green and black and the Vatican’s yellow-and-white flags decorated the square, which is home to the Church of the Nativity, built over the grotto where many Christians believe Jesus was born. ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Israel; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: dangerous; holyland; israel; palestine; palestinians; popefrancis; popeisraeltrip

1 posted on 05/26/2014 11:02:22 AM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: VitacoreVision

Wow...


2 posted on 05/26/2014 11:05:48 AM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: VitacoreVision

Abbas “a man of peace”???.....Don’t think so.....


3 posted on 05/26/2014 11:07:49 AM PDT by beethovenfan (If Islam is the solution, the "problem" must be freedom.)
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To: DoughtyOne; Alex Murphy

There’s no surprise here. However, IB4?


4 posted on 05/26/2014 11:08:16 AM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: VitacoreVision

Regardless of the Vatican position on abortion and homos, I am convinced that Frank is a garden variety progressive. Good thing that my allegiance is to God, not to a church.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 11:10:33 AM PDT by Dr. Thorne ("How long, O Lord, holy and true?" - Rev. 6:10)
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To: VitacoreVision
Peter the Roman ?

6 posted on 05/26/2014 11:13:49 AM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Dr. Thorne

As a recovering Catholic, not much these people do to surprise me anymore.

But i must say, this guy is a disgrace….


7 posted on 05/26/2014 11:14:23 AM PDT by DanielRedfoot (Creepy Ass Cracker)
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To: VitacoreVision

Memo to the Pope:
FIRST THE SATURDAY PEOPLE - THEN THE SUNDAY PEOPLE!

Signed, The Palestinian People.


8 posted on 05/26/2014 11:15:55 AM PDT by missnry (The truth will set you free ... and drive liberals crazy!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Catholic church joins the rest of Big Religion circling the drain.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 11:19:41 AM PDT by Arm_Bears (Shoot cops that shoot dogs.)
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To: VitacoreVision

Another useful idiot.


10 posted on 05/26/2014 11:21:33 AM PDT by wny
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To: VitacoreVision

Your jedi mind tricks won’t work on him Frankie.


11 posted on 05/26/2014 11:25:40 AM PDT by Falcon4.0
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To: VitacoreVision

So, the Pope calles a Palisimian a “man of peace”?

That is easily explained as a mere presstitute typo. What the Presstitute meant to type was “Pope calls Palisimian a ‘man of piece’.

See, good feelings flow when one shares, ‘specially that Arab boy.

My apologies to Catholics, but too few of them have spoken out about a South AMerican socialist who wants to spend the worlds money as he sees fit.

He is so eager to spend others money that I am reminded of the old Jewish line - “With my guilt, and your gelt, we can do great things”.

Hmmnnn - maybe he isn’t really a Catholic after all.

Could it all be the Mossad?

;-)


12 posted on 05/26/2014 11:29:07 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: VitacoreVision

13 posted on 05/26/2014 11:30:16 AM PDT by Brian Kopp DPM
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To: VitacoreVision

This is one Pope they should make a “Prisoner of the Vatican”.

Don’t let him out—he’s crazy!


14 posted on 05/26/2014 11:39:02 AM PDT by miserare (2014--The Year We Fight Back!)
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To: VitacoreVision

The Holy Father is either VERY VERY VERY sadly mis-infoermed, or else Satan has captured his soul....

Pray for the Pope, and his eternal soul. Pray for him, please.


15 posted on 05/26/2014 11:55:12 AM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..)d)
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To: VitacoreVision

I am no longer a Catholic until this clown is gone. I will just consider myself a christian until then.


16 posted on 05/26/2014 11:59:06 AM PDT by rwoodward ("god, guns and more ammo")
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To: VitacoreVision

The more I hear about this Pope, the more convinced I become that he’s a retard.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 11:59:12 AM PDT by humblegunner
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To: VitacoreVision

Apologists arriving to explain that the plain meaning of his [latest] supremely idiotic pronouncement means exactly the opposite of what it seems to mean in 3 ... 2 ... 1 ...


18 posted on 05/26/2014 12:12:40 PM PDT by FredZarguna (Polonius, my old friend, step on the gas and let me shake your hand...)
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To: VitacoreVision

Following in the footsteps of Pope Benedict XVI.


19 posted on 05/26/2014 12:14:30 PM PDT by TexasGator
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To: VitacoreVision

The Pope is a dope


20 posted on 05/26/2014 12:21:16 PM PDT by LoneRangerMassachusetts (The meek shall not inherit the Earth)
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To: VitacoreVision

When I heard a Jesuit was elected Pope, my antennae went up. As I have been reading the Pope’s daily comments over the past year, my antennae went up even more. I kept hoping that this Pope would stop with his off-the-cuff daily comments and revert to standard Papal speaking procedure. No such luck. I was hoping it was the MSM who were misconstruing his daily comments. No such luck. When I heard he was planning to fly into Bethlehem from Jordan I became even more concerned as it was obvious he meant it as a message to the Palestinians.

As a Catholic, I am concerned and disappointed over the Pope’s actions. Stopping to pray at the security wall which was build to stop terrorist bombings as if it were the Western Wall is pure propaganda for the Palestinians. Referring to Abbas as a man of peace is pure nonsense. Having to be pressed to make a stop at the Holocaust memorial is a sad commentary.

Pope Francis has been a joy to liberals and left wingers both inside and outside the Catholic Church. For the rest of us who attend weekly Mass and work to help in the New Evangelization process, he has been a severe disappointment.

I have read rumors that his health has become problematical, that long-scheduled meetings have had to be cancelled, and that he has gained a substantial amount of weight of late. Seeing the Pope on TV the past three days, he appeared to be short on energy, pallid, and in need of assistance getting up and down. His frequent smiles had become far fewer. He neither looks nor acts like a person in reasonably good health.


21 posted on 05/26/2014 12:45:16 PM PDT by CdMGuy
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To: VitacoreVision; CdMGuy
Here is one of the comments at the Blaze article:

this story came from the AP, and they are notorious for recontextualizing.

The Pope did not say Abbas “you are a man of peace”,, he said “you are known as a man of peace”

“peace” is the basic philosophical tenant of Islam, it is attained by submitting to Allah. Therefore, islam is peace to Palestinians, but not in the Western context of nonviolence. So, when the Pope used the word peace, was he speaking to Palestinians or the West… he was speaking to Palestinians.

“you are known as a man of peace (Islam)”

I don't know enough to gauge the insight, if it is one.

Other commenters opined that the pope is painting Abbas into a corner. Wishful thinking?

22 posted on 05/26/2014 1:00:27 PM PDT by Bill W was a conservative (Profile, detain, interrogate, deport.)
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To: VitacoreVision

this pope continues to prove that he is a socialist through and through


23 posted on 05/26/2014 1:11:36 PM PDT by Nifster
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To: UriĀ’el-2012
Peter the Roman ? Have you read Petrus Romanus? Scary stuff.
24 posted on 05/26/2014 1:22:25 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: VitacoreVision

Man of Peace - Bob Dylan

Look out your window, baby, there’s a scene you’d like to catch
The band is playing “Dixie,” a man got his hand outstretched
Could be the Führer
Could be the local priest
You know sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

He got a sweet gift of gab, he got a harmonious tongue
He knows every song of love that ever has been sung
Good intentions can be evil
Both hands can be full of grease
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

Well, first he’s in the background, then he’s in the front
Both eyes are looking like they’re on a rabbit hunt
Nobody can see through him
No, not even the Chief of Police
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

Well, he catch you when you’re hoping for a glimpse of the sun
Catch you when your troubles feel like they weigh a ton
He could be standing next to you
The person that you’d notice least
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

Well, he can be fascinating, he can be dull
He can ride down Niagara Falls in the barrels of your skull
I can smell something cooking
I can tell there’s going to be a feast
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

He’s a great humanitarian, he’s a great philanthropist
He knows just where to touch you, honey, and how you like to be kissed
He’ll put both his arms around you
You can feel the tender touch of the beast
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

Well, the howling wolf will howl tonight, the king snake will crawl
Trees that’ve stood for a thousand years suddenly will fall
Wanna get married? Do it now
Tomorrow all activity will cease
You know that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace

Somewhere Mama’s weeping for her blue-eyed boy
She’s holding them little white shoes and that little broken toy
And he’s following a star
The same one them three men followed from the East
I hear that sometimes Satan comes as a man of peace
Copyright © 1983 by Special Rider Music

Read more: http://www.bobdylan.com/us/songs/man-peace#ixzz32r5xAqFJ


25 posted on 05/26/2014 1:26:07 PM PDT by don-o (He will not share His glory and He will NOT be mocked! Blessed be the name of the Lord forever!)
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To: VitacoreVision

Abbas “man of peace”????? Did the Pope ever take a history lesson?


26 posted on 05/26/2014 1:51:00 PM PDT by hal ogen (First Amendment or Reeducation Camp?)
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To: Bill W was a conservative

Bill, I think there’s some wiggle room there. I do think there must be ways to make comments that are complimentary that wouldn’t sound bad to people in the West though.


27 posted on 05/26/2014 1:58:15 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: F15Eagle

I would agree. I didn’t get your IB4 in context?


28 posted on 05/26/2014 1:59:13 PM PDT by DoughtyOne
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To: Stillwaters

What in the world?


29 posted on 05/26/2014 2:01:01 PM PDT by lonevoice (We can evade reality, but we cannot evade the consequences of evading reality)
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To: Dr. Thorne

“Regardless of the Vatican position on abortion and homos, I am convinced that Frank is a garden variety progressive.”

I agree. When he’s reported as making obviously leftist statements, his defenders tell us to look at the original Vatican pronouncements. However, this Pope, like most others, is a man who has risen through a very difficult bureaucratic vetting process, one that winnows all but the smartest men and those who are most able to use language for their ends. Francis has to know how “progressive” remarks he makes will be taken and represented. Hence, if he didn’t want such an understanding to develop about his remarks, he’d be making different ones and repudiating earlier media misstatements about what he has said. IOW, hd’s a clever prog. who knows exactly how his remarks will be reported and interpreted who’s left himself a place to retreat to in the text of the Vatican originals.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 2:39:01 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Arm_Bears

Why I sleep late on Sundays.


31 posted on 05/26/2014 2:40:12 PM PDT by libstripper
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To: Dr. Thorne
Good thing that my allegiance is to God, not to a church.

Couldn't have said it better myself.

FMCDH(BITS)

32 posted on 05/26/2014 2:51:21 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: rwoodward
I will just consider myself a christian until then.

That is all I have ever considered myself since I was around 13 years old.

FMCDH(BITS)

33 posted on 05/26/2014 2:57:56 PM PDT by nothingnew (I fear for my Republic due to marxist influence in our government. Open eyes/see)
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To: nothingnew

34 posted on 05/26/2014 3:55:29 PM PDT by VitacoreVision
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

The jesuit stirs the pot, again.

Cue Catholic “ yeah but that`s not what he meant...” in 3..2..1


35 posted on 05/26/2014 5:21:36 PM PDT by Para-Ord.45 (Americans, happy in tutelage by the reflection that they have chosen their own dictators.)
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To: Mrs.Z
We are in End Times.

Come YHvH quickly !

shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

36 posted on 05/26/2014 5:24:47 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: Para-Ord.45
The Evil One will enforce a seven year peace plan; soon.
shalom b'SHEM Yah'shua HaMashiach

37 posted on 05/26/2014 5:27:40 PM PDT by Uri’el-2012 (Psalm 119:174 I long for Your salvation, YHvH, Your teaching is my delight.)
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

Agreed.

Come quickly Lord Jesus.


38 posted on 05/26/2014 7:03:52 PM PDT by Mrs.Z
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To: VitacoreVision

“Hear another parable: There was a certain householder, which planted a vineyard, and hedged it round about, and digged a winepress in it, and built a tower, and let it out to husbandmen, and went into a far country: And when the time of the fruit drew near, he sent his servants to the husbandmen, that they might receive the fruits of it. And the husbandmen took his servants, and beat one, and killed another, and stoned another. Again, he sent other servants more than the first: and they did unto them likewise. But last of all he sent unto them his son, saying, They will reverence my son. But when the husbandmen saw the son, they said among themselves, This is the heir; come, let us kill him, and let us seize on his inheritance. And they caught him, and cast him out of the vineyard, and slew him.

When the lord therefore of the vineyard cometh, what will he do unto those husbandmen?” Matthew 21:33-40


39 posted on 05/26/2014 8:38:45 PM PDT by captmar-vell
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To: UriĀ’el-2012

~~~The Evil One will enforce a seven year peace plan; soon.~~~

Yes, I am certainly wondering just how far off it is. They are definitely working towards it.


40 posted on 05/26/2014 11:40:00 PM PDT by F15Eagle (1Jn4:15;5:4-5,11-13;Mt27:50-54;Mk15:33-34;Jn3:17-18,6:69,11:25,14:6,20:31;Ro10:8-11;1Tm2:5-6;Ti3:4-7)
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To: Bill W was a conservative

RE: So, when the Pope used the word peace, was he speaking to Palestinians or the West… he was speaking to Palestinians.

Let’s see if I get this right -— the Palestinians have their own understanding of the word “Peace” ( which CAN include terrorism ), and the west has its own understanding of the word “Peace” which REPUDIATES terrorism...

And the Pope chooses to use the Palestinian understanding of peace ( which CAN include terrorism )?

To what end?


41 posted on 05/27/2014 11:37:41 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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To: VitacoreVision

It is not God’s Will that there be a (State of Palestine).


42 posted on 05/29/2014 8:48:21 PM PDT by ourworldawry
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