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Poroshenko vows to retain east Ukraine
AFP ^ | May 27, 2014

Posted on 05/26/2014 11:16:58 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe

Billionaire oligarch Petro Poroshenko says he would not let rebel-held east Ukraine become another Somalia as he prepared to take over the presidency with a clear signal from Moscow that it is ready to work with his government.

Poroshenko has moved swiftly to stamp his authority as Ukraine's new leader after claiming victory in Sunday's presidential election, with partial results showing he trounced his rivals in the first round.

He said Ukraine would press on with an offensive to crush the pro-Russian separatists waging an insurgency in the eastern industrial belt, despite Moscow warning it would be a "colossal mistake".

"There are no talks with terrorists," the pro-Western tycoon and veteran politician told reporters on Monday.

"Their goal is to turn Donbass (east Ukraine) into Somalia. I will not let anyone do this to our state and I hope that Russia will support my approach."

(Excerpt) Read more at m.theaustralian.com.au ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Russia
KEYWORDS: billionaires; oligarchs; poroshenko; stratego; ukraine
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1 posted on 05/26/2014 11:16:58 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
"We consider that the winner of the election is president of west Ukraine - he is a half president," said pro-Russian presidential candidate Oleh Tsarov.

What percent of the vote did Oleh get?

2 posted on 05/26/2014 11:29:47 AM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Billionaire oligarch Petro Poroshenko

That says it all right there. In store for the Ukrainians - Globalism, mountains of debt, crony corporatism, massive Third world immigration, official oppression, regulations by non-elected Globalist bureaucracies, homosex-ed for five year olds, and this guy:


3 posted on 05/26/2014 11:32:41 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
In addition to the political challenges ahead, Poroshenko will have to set in motion painful austerity measures that world lenders are demanding in return for $US27 billion ($A29.21 billion) in aid to prevent bankruptcy.

Poor suckers these Ukrainians...

4 posted on 05/26/2014 11:35:17 AM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

The biggest gangster oligarch is KGB Putin himself who has looted billions from Russia and hidden it in Switzerland and Lichtenstein. Nobody in the world is more corrupt than the Russians.


5 posted on 05/26/2014 11:39:14 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Somalia is a Muslim state. Google “tartars ukraine” to get a perspective on the conflict.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 11:40:40 AM PDT by RideForever
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To: mac_truck

Commies hate austerity measures. They never want to pay off their debts. Just like the commies here in the USA.


7 posted on 05/26/2014 11:40:42 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ohio senator calls Ukraine elections legitimate
Portman, mentioned as a potential Republican presidential candidate in 2016, adopted a much tougher stance on Ukraine than President Barack Obama, declaring that Ukrainian membership in the North Atlantic Treaty Organization should be “a goal,” although he conceded that Ukraine is “probably not ready yet to meet the criteria that NATO has for membership.”

He also called on Russia to return Crimea, a province on the Black Sea annexed last March by Putin. And he spoke of a bill he is sponsoring to send anti-tank and anti-aircraft weapons to Ukraine, a move the Obama administration has so far rejected.

8 posted on 05/26/2014 11:46:24 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: RideForever

Russia’s population is 17% muslim. Millions of Tatars live in Russia and Putin just gave Russian citizenship to thousands more in Crimea. Russian muslim terrorists from the Caucasus are waging jihad against Christian Ukraine.


9 posted on 05/26/2014 11:46:45 AM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Ukraine Forces Appear to Oust Rebels From Airport in East
10 posted on 05/26/2014 11:59:29 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe
Commies hate austerity measures.

Brilliant commentary Joe.

What inning is it...bottom of the fifth?

11 posted on 05/26/2014 12:03:02 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

LOTS of civilians getting killed today.

Video of civilians shot in their cars during the Donetsk airport op, supposedly.
WARNING-GRAPHIC VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=90tOlHZp8Z4


12 posted on 05/26/2014 12:03:23 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
The seizure of the airport suggested a new, perhaps desperate, escalation by the militants who in recent days have appeared to lose the political support of the Kremlin, which indicated that it would respect the results of Sunday’s election.

"I would not like to think this is the start of a new Cold war. It is in no one's interest and I think it will not happen," said Putin
13 posted on 05/26/2014 12:06:05 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: tcrlaf

Incorrect heading for the video above.

Apparently, these people were shot by a national guard group in Novoaydar, north of Lugansk, NOT the airport.


14 posted on 05/26/2014 12:06:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“Ukraine Forces Appear to Oust Rebels From Airport in East”

Conflicting information, and the times is hours behind

Earlier reports sai “Battalion Vostok” was counter-attacking the Airport during the storm, just after dark, and now this tweet a few minutes ago:

“Lifenews confirms that Donetsk militia took control of the airport.”

Now, does that mean they took it last night? Or that they retook it today?


15 posted on 05/26/2014 12:11:40 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Other recent tweets say the Rebels have withdrawn about 1/2 mile from the airport, and are holding a line at the “Zasyadko mine and hospital #18”


16 posted on 05/26/2014 12:14:05 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Poroshenko wants to be the Ukrainian Gorbachev. He will be the last President of a unitary Ukraine if he presses on with the Maidan policies.

He was elected by voters in Ivano-Frankovsk and Lvov. They can keep him.


17 posted on 05/26/2014 12:18:51 PM PDT by goldstategop (In Memory Of A Dearly Beloved Friend Who Lives In My Heart Forever)
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To: tcrlaf
Earlier reports sai “Battalion Vostok” was counter-attacking the Airport during the storm, just after dark, and now this tweet a few minutes ago:

Putin's Muslim Chechen battalion for folks who may not know.

18 posted on 05/26/2014 12:18:54 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: goldstategop
Poroshenko wants to be the Ukrainian Gorbachev. He will be the last President of a unitary Ukraine if he presses on with the Maidan policies. He was elected by voters in Ivano-Frankovsk and Lvov. They can keep him.

And the pro Russian candidate Oleh Tsarov got what percent of the vote?

19 posted on 05/26/2014 12:22:05 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: goldstategop; Tailgunner Joe; FreeReign

As I said last night, now the dangerous period has begun.

Differing reports about what is happening in Donetsk right now make it hard to divine the truth. One thing is for sure, though. The Maidan Twitterbot Army has suddenly come alive, all repeating the same exact statements.

They are easy to pick out if you search twitter via Bing, and not using the Twitter search.

It doesn’t matter who did/did not vote for Poroshenko. I said last night that he had ONE chance to get this right.

Pay close attention to what the Russians have to say in the morning. That will tell the tale, I think.


20 posted on 05/26/2014 12:30:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
The seizure of the airport suggested a new, perhaps desperate, escalation by the militants who in recent days have appeared to lose the political support of the Kremlin,

21 posted on 05/26/2014 12:30:11 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: tcrlaf

I’m getting a bad feeling about all this.

I was in hopes things would calm down after the election...but things seem worse.


22 posted on 05/26/2014 12:34:11 PM PDT by Bobalu (What cannot be programmed cannot be physics)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

“who in recent days have appeared to lose the political support of the Kremlin”

That may, or may not, be true, but that something was going to happen at Donetsk Airport soon was telegraphed a day and half ago, when Ukraine banned all flights to Donetsk Airport.

They had been operating daily flights right up to that point.

The rebels didn’t move to take control of the airport until last night, which, IMO, tells me they had gotten a head’s up that something might happen.


23 posted on 05/26/2014 12:34:55 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Bobalu; All

http://vk.com/video73408931_168488889?list=5788ac798d152dee7e&og=1

New Lifenews video, taken during the day.


24 posted on 05/26/2014 12:40:11 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
They are easy to pick out if you search twitter via Bing, and not using the Twitter search.

That's your opinion. You folks have been using unverifiable twitter reports for a while now. Now it seems like twitter reports are saying there is plenty of activity tonight inside of Donetsk against the separatists.

One photo reports to show Pushlin on the run.

Let's see what happens tonight.

25 posted on 05/26/2014 12:42:29 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: tcrlaf
That may, or may not, be true,
(MOSCOW) -- Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov said on Monday that Moscow is prepare to have talks with Ukrainian representatives following Sunday's election in which chocolate magnate Petro Poroshenko declared victory.

Lavrov said that the Russian government would "respect the will expressed by the Ukrainian people," which meshes with comments made earlier by Vladimir Putin.

In an interviewwith international news agencies on Saturday, Putin blamed the violence and political instability in Ukraine on the West and said he hoped Europe and the US were ready for compromise.

"I would not like to think this is the start of a new Cold war. It is in no one's interest and I think it will not happen," said Putin,

26 posted on 05/26/2014 12:42:52 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: tcrlaf; All

Twitter, 2 minutes ago:

In Donetsk, in Putilov district bridge there’s combats, and a very large number of strong explosions is heard in the airport district


27 posted on 05/26/2014 12:46:14 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Another tweet 5 minutes ago:
Fighting is reported in city of Mariupol around DPR HQ


28 posted on 05/26/2014 12:49:20 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf

That’s not good news for you.


29 posted on 05/26/2014 12:52:20 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: FreeReign

“One photo reports to show Pushlin on the run.”

How many times, over the last two months, have the twitterbots claimed “Pushlin on the RUN!”, does this make??

He might be, he might not be.
Other reports are saying many people have left the administration building to join the street fight on the north end of town.

The APS that attacked the railway seem to have been driven back, haven’t seen anything about them in several hours.


30 posted on 05/26/2014 12:52:41 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Fighting is reported in city of Mariupol around DPR HQ
Stratego
31 posted on 05/26/2014 1:14:59 PM PDT by Berlin_Freeper (You can't be passive and moral.)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Thanks for post... good news indeed!


32 posted on 05/26/2014 1:47:20 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Tailginner.. of course Good news referencing thread “Poroshenko vows to retain east Ukraine” not that (sigh) the Pro-Russians still yet want to fight some more.


33 posted on 05/26/2014 2:15:09 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com; All

Released about two hours ago.
Machine Translated from Interfax:

Russian Foreign Minister requires that the Kiev authorities ceased hostilities in Donetsk, expects OSCE detailed information on the situation.

As noted in the Foreign Ministry said in connection with the receipt of information on armed clashes on the outskirts of Donetsk and existing victims, Moscow urgently appealed to the leadership of the OSCE requested to provide detailed information about the situation there.

“We expect the representatives of the OSCE objective and comprehensive data on this subject, and from Kiev authorities - cease military operations against its own population” - the document says.
http://translate.google.com/translate?act=url&depth=1&hl=en&ie=UTF8&prev=_t&rurl=translate.google.com&sl=ru&tl=en&u=http://www.interfax.ru/world/378124

It is very early in the morning in Moscow right now.


34 posted on 05/26/2014 2:25:46 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: Tailgunner Joe

Correction. You are.


35 posted on 05/26/2014 2:31:16 PM PDT by duckln
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To: FreeReign
2 hours ago: This is situation I know: "I understand this shooting affair began and near railway. The airport as a whole is intact. A few hits with the main façade. From inside the unit. Vzletka and the entire Tower. At the Avenue in the District of the Zasyadko lies inverted KAMAZ which carried the wounded militiamen. The driver was killed. The wounded were evacuated. All saw himself. According to the staff of the ATO fighting halted. Stay home. Children should not drive to school. Most importantly, the people scared vusmert. On/through the streets of the private sector in the area of ​​the former bus station Putilovsky [bus station] go armed thugs. People sit in their cellars - this is no joke. There was a fire at the railway in a village near the airport, something is burning!" (Translated by Bing)
36 posted on 05/26/2014 2:40:36 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com
Despite all Ukrainians still have sense of humor: Ivan masquerades ..... People, be cautious!!!!
37 posted on 05/26/2014 2:47:38 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

40 minutes ago BING TRANSLATION
“While patrolling the city of Mariupol, Donetsk region by members of the battalion “Azov” of Ministry of Internal Affairs of Ukraine, about 9:0 pm one of the Ukrainian forces was attacked by terrorists, and gunfire from the headquarters building of the so-called “Donetsk people’s Republic” on Greek Street.

According to sources “Censor”. “Azov” fighters returned fire. During the battle at the headquarters of gangs “DNI” thundered two powerful explosions. Stationary pillboxes were destroyed at the entrance and on the roof of the building. Killed at least two of the terrorists. Losses among law enforcement officers, soldiers continue to perform tasks to maintain law and order on the streets of Mariupol.”


38 posted on 05/26/2014 2:55:31 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: All

Since when is the legally elected leader of a sovereign nation acting to remove terrorists from within the borders of that nation a bad thing?

The Putin-media here at FR are Russian liars. This is not hard to figure out, it is clear who the trouble is, Ruskies!

Give Poroshenko a chance, if he is not what he claims to be and corrupt then criticize him, but as of now he is acting properly as leader of Ukraine.


39 posted on 05/26/2014 4:26:34 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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UKRAINE: Ukrain military captured captured airport of Prokofiev Donetsk from Separatists
Ministry of Defence of Ukraine Vladislav Seleznev
26.05.2014

TRANSLATION:

26 May at 4.30 militants were captured airport of Prokofiev Donetsk. In particular, there were about 200 people, the bulk of which comprised representatives of other states. Main group was in the new airport terminal. Capture Terminal because created a threat to life of civilian population. In this regard, in order to prevent the negative effects of ATO was made an ultimatum to surrender. Those who were ready to lay down their arms, guaranteed safety/security.

The militants did not accept our conditions. At precisely the clearly specified/ appointed time began action to neutralize the terrorists. After light injury by Ukrainian soldiers, was struck with the use of aviation. The militants, who were in the terminal were destroyed.

At this time explored all objects of the militants. In case of militants did not surrender, on exposed will be dealt a blow with a special high-precision weapons. Tasks of counter-terrorism operation continues.

At the present time, there is not confirmed data on casualties among the participants ATO. Information on deaths of terrorists is being clarified. Tomorrow at the premises of the airport terminal will start work of authorized investigators.


40 posted on 05/26/2014 4:30:25 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
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To: Berlin_Freeper

Rob Portman is a pro-fag, judas not worth listening too.


41 posted on 05/26/2014 4:43:31 PM PDT by ohioman
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To: FreeReign

Now confirmed that Pushy didn’t run. So this makes the 10th, or 11th time he has supposedly “fled to Russia”?

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=o3Pm3p7dSQM&feature=youtu.be


42 posted on 05/26/2014 5:13:29 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: UMCRevMom@aol.com

Now being reported that the KAMAZ that was hit was flying the Medical Service flag.

Lots of differing reports on the number killed, from 1 to 35.

And a serious war crime, if it is true about the flag.


43 posted on 05/26/2014 5:20:30 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: free_life; Admin Moderator

“The Putin-media here at FR are Russian liars.”

I’m more than a little sick of the DailyKos-style debate tactics of the Obama/Euromaidan trolls.

Disagreement about THE FACTS of an issue isn’t Putin-Media, or Putinistsa, or anything else. I’ve been called a LOT of names, and worse, for trying to find out what is really going on, or posting info from sources not Maidan-approved. (these people have even called the BBC or AFP (Putinista Propaganda) and that is something, in the entire decade+ I have been here, was strictly verboten.

So why is it allowed to stand now?? And this has been going on for 8 weeks now.


44 posted on 05/26/2014 5:28:09 PM PDT by tcrlaf (Q)
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To: tcrlaf
Now confirmed that Pushy didn’t run. So this makes the 10th, or 11th time he has supposedly “fled to Russia”?

No. I said "one photo reports to show Pushlin on the run.” The report wasn't that he fled to Russia.

That makes your count of times he fled "to Russia" suspect, since you can't tell the difference between somebody being "on the run" and somebody "fleeing to Russia".

45 posted on 05/26/2014 5:35:45 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: Tailgunner Joe
The biggest gangster oligarch is KGB Putin himself

Not really. Slander Putin all you want with these kooky conspiracy theories, at least he is building up his country and rescuing the Russian people from the horrors of Globo-Marxism.

Meanwhile, Globalist meatpuppet Barry Soetoro, who ranks a petulant school yard bully, is wrecking the USA and bringing the American people under the yoke of Globo-Marxism. The same Globo-Marxism that is descending upon the Ukrainian people and the rest of Europe.


Pictured: The standard-bearer of Globalism and the sodomite EU

46 posted on 05/26/2014 7:25:36 PM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: tcrlaf

You have been repeatedly shown to have said things that are not true and have for weeks spread disinformation here at FR. You refuse to address this every time it has been shown you are lying or spreading disinformation, but continue to do both. So I am coming out with it you are lying and you know it. If it was just a disagreement of facts you would give facts instead of continuing with the lies.

I will ask you again, are you Russian?


47 posted on 05/26/2014 9:02:33 PM PDT by free_life (If you ask Jesus to forgive you and to save you, He will.)
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To: tcrlaf

The video is from Novoaidar, Luhansk oblast. Ukrainian media reporting this as the work of Russian separatists. Can’t confirm from the video itself, the people in it don’t say who did it.


48 posted on 05/26/2014 9:03:54 PM PDT by Ivan Mazepa
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Putin is not building up his country, he is a kleptocrat who has betrayed his own country and stolen their freedom. He is a terrorist, a war criminal and a mass murderer, guilty of the ethnic cleansing of thousands of innocent Georgian civilians. Putin’s Russia supports every marxist tyranny in the world from the Chi-coms to the Sandinistas and he is helping islamofascist Iran get a nuke to wipe Israel off the map. KGB Putin is the biggest terrorist and murderer in the world. He’s a cancer which must be eradicated.


49 posted on 05/26/2014 9:09:20 PM PDT by Tailgunner Joe
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To: Tailgunner Joe

About count, caww, tcrlaf, thousands on the net like them—

Bane of the modern world – the weird ‘’ groupthink’’

All around us these days we see examples of what many come to think of as one of the more
illuminating insights into much of what goes on in our modern world.....

Examples. Some time back, under the heading “Thought police on patrol”, a well-known US journalist,
Charles Krauthammer, reported how his newspaper had received a petition signed by more than
110,000 people calling on it not to have any more anti-man-made global warming reports......

And lately we have seen the extraordinary and unprecedented campaign by so many naysayers on the
internet to demonise and smear Ukraine and Maidan.... Everything they do and say is
criticised, like UKR has early election, guy seems to win big, but they complain that all couldn’t vote
when the terrorists the naysayers are encouraging would let people vote in some parts of the Donbass.

Or the naysayers complain he is just a candy making rich guy, who will go bad and
rob the country..They hardly admit to the country being robbed big time of 80 billion
by putler and his stooge yanu—asshole...

Or the naysayers complain that new prez is a puppet of obama, when we here in US been telling
them that obama don’t care about UKraine, but is just like putler and the same kind of
fascist/commie who seem to be helping each other to undermine US and Ukraine citizens.


50 posted on 05/26/2014 9:39:29 PM PDT by hubel458
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