Posted on 05/26/2014 12:37:40 PM PDT by Enterprise
Elliot Rodger pounded on the sorority house front door while, inside, the young women he yearned to slaughter were preparing for another Friday night.
The awkward 22-year-old was obsessed with exacting “retribution” for what he experienced as a lifetime of social and sexual isolation, and had planned meticulously to target as many people as possible, authorities say. But here again, he was denied access to those he felt should worship him.
So when no one answered after several minutes, Rodger improvised.
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I’m just amazed. The sheriff sends two flatfeet over to check this guy out. They ask him if he is going to commit suicide or mass murder and he says no (recollect the FBI and Boston bomber suspects) so they leave and report back that he is a solid upstanding American.
Elliot posted that 7 officers came to contact him. Can you link to a report that two officers were sent?
If you read his manifesto in its entirety, you might rethink the “mental illness” diagnosis. It was not written by a crazy person. It was written by an enraged narcissist. No hint of delusion.
Would you also suggest that the apologists for the Third Reich who justified why the Final Solution had to be carried out were “mentally ill?” Doubt it. No one denies their agency. They were the authors and the perpetrators. We are more apt to correctly call them evil.
The Nazis hated Jews; this kid hated blonde girls and the guys who got to date them. The manifesto lays out, in perfectly cogent prose, why he hated them and what he was going to do to exact revenge. And he did it. Not on the scale he imagined, but he wasn’t delusional.
He was evil, not mentally ill.
Maybe you should try reading it. I read it and the person who wrote it is entirely delusional. If you actually read it, you will see the person did not even know what was going on around him. I never said one can't be mentally ill and evil. The shame is the parents knew that this kid wasn't right, but they never took him to get help.
Hitler was evil. But I have yet to hear of one person who doesn't think he was mentally ill.
You really need to actually read it. This person was extremely narcissistic, but also hugely delusional. His idea that these women hated him was entirely in his mind. His deranged ideas did not reflect reality. He even projects his delusional beliefs onto his childhood, but a rational person can see right though it. And it's obvious his parents were treating him in a certain way that he can't see through, because of his problems.
Hitler was evil. But I have yet to hear of one person who doesn’t think he was mentally ill.
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I never thought Hitler was mentally ill. Just plain evil.
“This person was mentally ill. Whatever beliefs he had were not grounded in reality. Arguing about it is stupid.”
And he acting on the evil inside of him. Doesn’t matter what party he supported; what his parents did, etc.
What I am trying to say is that his parents knew his troubles and never sought mental health professionals. They put deliberately moved him up to Santa Barbara, despite the fact that he obviously was not prepared to live on his own.
He was just plain evil. That doesn’t mean someone can’t be mentally ill. I have never read Mein Kampf, but I’ve seen a few excerpts. A very warped mind.
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I have worked many years with the mentally ill, Hitler was evil which is warped against all that is moral and right.
The kid was in therapy since early childhood. He was a mess for a long time.
Where did you that he was in therapy from early childhood? From what I can determine, he never once went to therapy, at least until the time he was 20.
I read every word of it.
If you have no friends, you are correctly perceiving that people don’t like you.
People who grew up with him have been quoted at length in news stories. They didn’t like him. Surly and weird are the two most frequent descriptions.
Like most adolescents, he may have been mistaken why he made people so uncomfortable, but that’s not mental illness or delusion.
He had friends. There is even a case where he describes where he describes a kid he calls John Jo Glen as one of the popular kids- then he goes on to be good friends with that kid for several years. In 8th grade, when his condition perhaps develop, he went out of his way to offend his peers. He is delusionally paranoid. If his paranoia about being liked is causing him to be dislike, that isn't the same thing. Also, he had severe arrested development. By the time he is 18, he has the emotional maturity of a grade schooler.
In therapy since age 8,
By the way, you contradicted yourself. You quite correctly called him extremely narcissistic. Narcissism is a mental illness.
I think the parents are lying.
No, narcissism is a personality disorder. It is a way of development of the personality. Not an illness of thought and perception.
I think the parents are lying
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No, I doubt it. Narcissists and other personality disordered people suck up a lot of therapy time with little to show for it.
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