Posted on 05/26/2014 3:15:22 PM PDT by Kaslin
You persist in oversimplifying the problem....as if the only thing a driver ever does is cruise on the freeway.
Just this morning, in my driving to and from meetings, I encountered:
- Bridge Construction
- An accident on the interstate
- A funeral procession
- Parking at a large hospital complex with a myriad of specialty parking signs
- Parking at city offices, with specialty parking signs
- Interpreting signage in a parking garage
- Parking on a parking garage
- Yielding to jaywalking pedestrians
- Going around a stalled bus
- Going around parked delivery vehicles
- An intersection getting re-painted, with an army of idiots moving cones and flailing their arms to direct traffic
That’s just this morning!
None of the technology on the road today would address ANY of the situations I encountered in a span of four hours. You can deny it, you can oversimplify it...but you cannot explain to me how on earth any of the features in a car today could handle my very typical morning, driving around the city.
All of which can be dealt with without having you LIDAR knowing the exact number of millimeters between you and everything else. Half of them GPS already handles.
It’s a lot easier than you want it to be. Remember, drunk people can do this, just not very well. We don’t need to throw Deep Blue at a problem that can be accomplished by your average drunk.
You don’t understand what Google is using LIDAR for. Think in terms of facial recognition. It uses a cloud of points to identify “traffic cone”.
So no, it is not using the LIDAR to try and gain any sort of high precision. It is using it to map the world around the car, and simplify it - again into ‘blocks’. And in a GIS type way, they are assigning ‘attributes’ to the block, which have a ‘library’ of possibly actions that the block might take.
Since you have stated that GPS could handle half of the examples from my morning commute, I have a simple question:
Name one.
Name one of the events from my morning commute that GPS can handle. And explain in detail how GPS would work through the situation.
We’re in circles here. So here’s my final comment on this one.
First off understand that Google has ALREADY done thousand of miles self driven, and is planning on 100 more cars by the end of the year:
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3160840/posts
Then remember these great declarations throughout history:
It will take 2000 years to explore America
all the major scientific discoveries have been made
man will never run a mile in under 4 minutes
man will never fly under control
man will never control a vehicle over 100MPH
man will never break the speed of sound under control
man will never land on the moon and come back safely
You are, quite simply, on the wrong side of history. This problem you insist is insurmountable has been surmounted, now it’s just a matter of doing it cheaply enough for a production car.
So I take it you can’t explain how GPS can handle one of the situations I listed from my morning commute.
as long as a self driving car is google dependant it is a failure.
Google is racing to put out their system in order to track individual locations in order to sell the information.
Kids and thieves won’t be hacking in to control these cars and trucks. No way no how.
It won’t be Google dependent, they’re just the guys pushing hardest on the envelope. Meanwhile car companies continue to put more and more autonomous features in cars, which will close the gap less dramatically.
Recalculating.
according to reports on this project, the google car needs google maps. Also most states that allow this require a licensed driver who can take over instantly. Hard to do without brakes or human steering.
Yes the google car requires google map. And any self driving car will need somebody’s map (else it can’t know where it is), but GPS are basically standard equipment now so that’s solved. Most states currently require a licensed driver, emphasis on “currently”. CA is already working on the tweaks and as the tech spreads away from Silicone Valley other states will follow.
Cute...but you can’t respond to the challenge.
Its not hard to say something is easy, but too hard for you to explain how to actually do it.
This is a softball...you have your pick of a half dozen scenarios. Which one can you do today, with GPS?
We’re done. Good bye. You’re also wrong. Have the last word, but I won’t be reading it. See you in our self driving cars.
No, I don’t want the last word. In fact, for the last two posts, I have been begging you to provide the last word.
Just a few short hours ago, you dismissively stated that GPS could handle ‘half’ of the situations I listed.
Well I’m not greedy, so I didn’t require you to explain every one...but I did ask you to explain just one.
Can you do that?
You see - the last word is yours to have...
See. You read to the end.
Excellent point.
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