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Experts: Mass murderers are hard to predict
WBAY.COM ^ | 26 MAY 2014 | AP

Posted on 05/26/2014 8:45:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist

GOLETA, Calif. (AP) - Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes. Sandy Hook school attacker Adam Lanza. And now Elliot Rodger.

All were young loners with no criminal history who went on shooting sprees, leaving devastated families in their wake.

Mass murderers tend to have a history of pent-up frustration and failures, are socially isolated and vengeful, blaming others for their unhappiness, experts say.

"They all display deluded thinking and a lot of rage about feeling so marginalized," James Garbarino, a professor of psychology at Loyola University Chicago, said in an email.

Since mass killings are rare, scholars say there's no way to predict who has deadly intentions, let alone who will reach a breaking point and take action.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: elliotrodger

1 posted on 05/26/2014 8:45:17 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
The news media causes these psychos to seek fame .that's why they do it. the news media does it on purpose .their goal is to take away our gun rights so that we can't defend ourselves against the government . even with the media egging on these killers, mass murders are extremely rare , less than 100 die in mass shootings per year. compare to 40,000 suicides, 40,000 deaths by car accidents. the media cherry picks 1 out a trillion quadrillion events and makes that news to control us
2 posted on 05/26/2014 8:51:24 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

It’s not that hard really...they’re either democraps or liberals.


3 posted on 05/26/2014 8:52:05 PM PDT by max americana (fired liberals in our company last election, and I laughed while they cried (true story))
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Since mass killings are rare, scholars say there's no way to predict who has deadly intentions, let alone who will reach a breaking point and take action.

Biggest copout ever. His parents were trying for weeks to get someone to do something. How far does that reduce the pool? Let's be mathematical here.

4 posted on 05/26/2014 8:52:54 PM PDT by dr_lew
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Of course part of the problem is that if one is seen as an actual threat to undertake mass murder, he/she is usually locked up or committed to a hospital somewhere, thereby aborting the immediate threat,longterm hopefully providing rehab or treatment that will decrease the threat in the future, and in essence making the prediction of violence appear to have been invalid - just one of the many joys of trying to predict human behavior.....


5 posted on 05/26/2014 8:57:13 PM PDT by Intolerant in NJ
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To: dr_lew

>> His parents were trying for weeks to get someone to do something.

Similar story for Adam Lanza. Jared Loehner was also ignored. And the theater shooter too!

Mental illness is one area where govt can help... well, at least on the local level.


6 posted on 05/26/2014 9:01:28 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
They aren't hard to predict. Look for the NRA and Tea Party stickers. You'll find the "culprit" there.

Anyhow, it is good enough for "professional journalism" work, no?

7 posted on 05/26/2014 9:03:00 PM PDT by Gritty (Climate hysterics shriek on. Loud and apocalyptic is the only setting on the machine.-Mark Steyn)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

What percentage are taking anti-depressants?


8 posted on 05/26/2014 9:04:28 PM PDT by Signalman
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
1. mass shootings are extremely rare. less than 100 die in mass shootings per year in the USA. that is statistically nonexistent and not the crisis the news media makes it out to be. compare to 2.5 million home invasions per year in the uSA(of course the media doesn't cover that)

2. the news media promises a psycho worldwide fame and imortality if they would only shoot a few people at the same time

3. anything can and will happen in a country of 300 million people. it is the news media focus which makes this a event or a crisis. it's not

4. the news media make these mass shootings the top news for months because they are socialists bent on taking away our gun rights.

5. don't fall into the trap of talking about this bs or the media's celebrated shooters. just point out what the media is doing.

6. the media is just waiting for one of the psychos to take their promise of fame and immortality .they salivate waiting for it

9 posted on 05/26/2014 9:09:30 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Wait according to the Obama DHS all these mass shootings were suppose to be conducted by returning Veterans.


10 posted on 05/26/2014 9:14:16 PM PDT by Trueblackman (As a Conservative, I am proud to be on the Obama's enemy list and on the right side of history..)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Since mass killings are rare,

So why do we need 'gun control' to stop them if they are so rare?

11 posted on 05/26/2014 9:16:08 PM PDT by Colonel_Flagg ("Compromise" means you've already decided you lost.)
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To: Gene Eric
anything can and will happen in a country of 300 million people .

how many events happen ever year in the USA, a trilion to the trilionth power events,2.5 million home invasions per year, what 3 mass shootings per year at the egging of news media. this is not worth talking about the news media created celebrities. it's statistically nonexistent but the news media make mass shootings the top stories of the year.

the media is manipulating all of you . it's not a crisis. the gov shouldn't do anything as this is not a crisis as global warming is not. the gov should go away

12 posted on 05/26/2014 9:18:04 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Colonel_Flagg

yes that’s what i was saying too. we don’t


13 posted on 05/26/2014 9:19:30 PM PDT by Democrat_media (Obama ordered IRS to rig 2012 election and must resign)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

All of them were either current patients or recent patients of psychological treatment or counseling. We need to ban such treatment immediately as it apparently does nothing to stop crazy people from killing others.


14 posted on 05/26/2014 9:21:23 PM PDT by kingu (Everything starts with slashing the size and scope of the federal government.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Doesn’t that pretty much describe our president?


15 posted on 05/26/2014 9:25:48 PM PDT by parisa
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
"Colorado movie theater shooter James Holmes. Sandy Hook school attacker Adam Lanza. And now Elliot Rodger. "

Coincidentally, Lanza and now Rodger have both reportedly been undergoing treatment for Asberger's Syndrome, and Holmes was also undergoing mental treatment for an unspecified condition. Wonder what drugs they had been prescribed?

16 posted on 05/26/2014 9:58:44 PM PDT by matthew fuller (No, I don't miss GWB- I miss Dick Cheney and Don Rumsfeld.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
Liberal Democrat using SSRI drugs. A fairly constant characteristic of all the "shooters". Not to omit the stabbing and use of the BMW to run down cyclists.

The Youtube video pegged the "gaydar". The hateful, self-absorbed, delusions of grandeur would be offputting to most people.

17 posted on 05/26/2014 11:14:45 PM PDT by Myrddin
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

http://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3160426/posts
maybe part of the study needs to show that these children might need actual parents instead of psychopaths. His father was some artist that had pictures of naked women at national monuments. my dad made gasoline and other refined products.


18 posted on 05/26/2014 11:19:45 PM PDT by kvanbrunt2 (civil law: commanding what is right and prohibiting what is wrong Blackstone Commentaries I p44)
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To: Democrat_media

Is 7 “mass” now?
That’s a weekend in Chicago


19 posted on 05/26/2014 11:54:56 PM PDT by edcoil (Not a single republican was ever a slave owner. They were all democrats.)
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist
...unless they are bitter clingers, in which case we should have seen it coming.

Hint - they never are.

20 posted on 05/27/2014 4:07:19 AM PDT by gov_bean_ counter (Romans 1:22 Professing themselves to be wise, they became fools)
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To: Gene Eric

“Mental illness is one area where govt can help... well, at least on the local level.”..

Years ago there were places called “insane asylums” but the gubmint did away with them. Remember the statement, “I’m from the gubmint and here to help”? Guess that didn’t work out too well.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 5:39:51 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: Gene Eric

“Mental illness is one area where govt can help... well, at least on the local level.”..

Years ago there were places called “insane asylums” but the gubmint did away with them. Remember the statement, “I’m from the gubmint and here to help”? Guess that didn’t work out too well.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 5:39:52 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: max americana

“It’s not that hard really...they’re either democraps or liberals.”

Here you go:

In 1865, John Wilkes Booth, a member of the Democrat Party which supported the continuation of slavery, shot and killed Abraham Lincoln, President of the United States.

On June 28, 1914, Gavrilo Princip, the leftwing Serb national assassinated Archduke Franz Ferdinand of Austria and his wife, touching off WWI.

On Sept. 14, 1901 President McKinley (R) was murdered by a Leftist. He was Anarcho-communist lunatic named Leon Czolgosz in Buffalo, NY.

In November 22, 1963 a radical left wing communist, Lee Harvey Oswald, shot and killed John F. Kennedy, President of the United States.

In September 22, 1975, a left wing radical Democrat, Sara Jane Moore, fired shots at Gerald Ford, President of the United States in an act of mental illness.

On March 30, 1981, a registered Democrat John Warnock Hinckley Jr. shot and wounded Ronald Reagan.

On July 18, 1984, James Huberty a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 22 people in a McDonald’s restaurant.

In 1986 Patrick Sherril a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 15 people in an Oklahoma post office.

In 1990 James Pough a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 10 people at a GMAC office.

In 1991 George Hennard a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 23 people in a Lubys cafeteria.

In 1995 James Daniel Simpson a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 5 coworkers in a Texas laboratory.

In 1999 Larry Asbrook a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 8 people at a church service.

In 2001 a left wing radical Democrat fired shots at the White House in a failed attempt to kill George W. Bush, President of the US.

In 2003 Douglas Williams, a disgruntled Democrat, shot and killed 7 people at a Lockheed Martin plant.

In 2007, a registered Democrat named Seung - Hui Cho shot and killed 32 people in Virginia Tech.

On June 10, 2009, James Wenneker von Brunn, A registered Democrat from Maryland and a Holocaust Denier, shot and killed security guard Stephen Tyrone Johns at, ironically, the Holocaust Museum.

On March 4, 2010, John Patrick Bedell two security guards at a Pentagon-area Metro station in D.C. As Patterico reports, he hated Bush and littered the Internet with 9/11 Truther rants.

February 15, 2010 Amy Bishop, deranged Harvard trained biologist, murdered three colleagues and possibly her own brother. She was described by family members as ‘a far-left political extremist who was “obsessed” with President Obama to the point of being off-putting.

In 2011 a mentally ill named Jared Lee Loughner shot Rep. Gabrielle Giffords. The pot smoking Loughner killed 6 and wounded 18 in another liberal shooting tragedy.

In July 2012 a registered Democrat and former member of the “Black Bloc” faction of the Occupy movement, named James Holmes went into a Colorado movie theater and shot and killed 12 people. 70 others were wounded.

In 2012 Andrew Engeldinger a disgruntled Democrat shot and killed 7 people in Minneapolis.

On August 15, 2012, Floyd Lee Corkins, a former volunteer with gay advocacy group “The DC Center for the LGBT Community,” tried to kill a security guard at the Washington headquarters of a Christian conservative organization the Family Research Council.

On 9/16/2013, another mentally ill liberal, Aaron Alexis, killed 12 innocents at the Navy Yard in Washington DC.

12/14/2013 Karl Pierson entered Arapahoe High School in Centennial, Co. armed with a shotgun with intent to kill one of his teachers. He shot Claire Davis, a senior, @Arapahoe High in the head. Yes, Pierson is/was another mentally ill liberal punk. He killed himself when an armed school officer ran towards him.

There has never been a right-wing assassination attempt on a president or a member of Congress.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 5:58:59 AM PDT by Balding_Eagle (Want to keep your doctor? Remove your Democrat Senator.)
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To: Balding_Eagle
"There has never been a right-wing assassination attempt on a president or a member of Congress."

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Unabomber (sic) had Algore's book (manifesto!) in his lair.

24 posted on 05/27/2014 7:32:03 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Gene Eric

The Korean wackjob kid as well.


25 posted on 05/27/2014 7:34:08 AM PDT by Tijeras_Slim
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To: Extremely Extreme Extremist

Mass murder and mass murderers are not hard to predict, they are impossible to predict. If a prediction is made and a murder “prevented,” how do we really know there would have been a murder without the “prevention?”


26 posted on 05/27/2014 9:58:41 AM PDT by RobinOfKingston (Democrats--the party of Evil. Republicans--the party of Stupid.)
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