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Will Texas give Ralph Hall the boot? (Runoff today!!)
thehill.com ^ | 5/27/14 | Cameron Joseph

Posted on 05/27/2014 5:24:19 AM PDT by cotton1706

Congress’s oldest member may be its first incumbent to lose his seat on Tuesday.

Rep. Ralph Hall (R-Texas), who recently turned 91, is facing a hard-fought runoff challenge from former U.S. Attorney John Ratcliffe (R).

Ratcliffe has given Hall the toughest race of his career, spending hundreds of thousands of his own money and racking up endorsements from a trio of national conservative groups that have given his campaign a late boost. Hall has stepped up his game since he was caught sleeping in the first round of voting, when Ratcliffe and other candidates held him to 45 percent, an outcome his campaign had confidently predicted wouldn’t happen.

The 17-term incumbent has spent more time back in his northeast Texas district since the runoff began and upped his fundraising, driven in large part by help from old friends in Congress and the Texas congressional delegation. But it’s unclear whether Hall has recovered fast enough to hold onto his seat for what he’s already said will be his last term in Congress.

Ratcliffe has been pounding Hall on his three decades in the House, blaming him for the growth in the federal deficit and for failing to stand up to GOP leadership. The insurgent has raced around the district to convince voters who know Hall well that he’s been there too long with little to show for it, painting himself as the more conservative alternative.

“If you want more of the same, Congressman Hall will certainly provide that. He's been there for 34 years and he wants two more years to provide more of the same,” Ratcliffe told The Hill. “People feel Washington has never been more broken and that they want a real fighter as opposed to someone who's just going to be a go along to get along politician.”

(Excerpt) Read more at thehill.com ...


TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Politics/Elections; US: Texas
KEYWORDS: elections

1 posted on 05/27/2014 5:24:19 AM PDT by cotton1706
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To: cotton1706

Why would a 91 year old run for re election to Congress - after being there 34 years?

I can come up with several answers, but there is no good answer to this question.


2 posted on 05/27/2014 5:27:46 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

He loves having power over others lives?
or
The bribes and under the table money are just too good to give up?
or
He simply can’t understand that he’s near the end of his road?


3 posted on 05/27/2014 5:54:01 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: Farmer Dean
He loves having power over others lives? or The bribes and under the table money are just too good to give up? or He simply can’t understand that he’s near the end of his road?

All three possible - but at 91 - what is he going to spend the bribes on? Hot chicks? Speed boat? New condo in the USVI? Ferrari?

Lot of folks who work so late into life tend to die almost immediately after stopping work. Methinks he fears this.

4 posted on 05/27/2014 6:00:18 AM PDT by C. Edmund Wright (Do NOT suffer fools gladly…and message boards are full contact arenas)
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To: C. Edmund Wright

I read an interesting quote recently.
“To enjoy your retirement,you must first give up your ambitions.”


5 posted on 05/27/2014 6:03:35 AM PDT by Farmer Dean (stop worrying about what they want to do to you,start thinking about what you want to do to them)
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To: cotton1706

He’s been in office since i was a kid. Sam Johnson too. Great men, but it’s time for them to step aside.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 6:58:35 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: cotton1706

Correction ... Johnson assumed office after i had already begun voting. Again ... great man but time to go.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 7:01:53 AM PDT by al_c (Obama's standing in the world has fallen so much that Kenya now claims he was born in America.)
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To: cotton1706

Ralph is a good guy but it is time to retire.


8 posted on 05/27/2014 7:34:48 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: cotton1706

http://louforcongress.com/


9 posted on 05/27/2014 7:36:48 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: cotton1706

I’m sorry but how can any rational person believe that a 91 year old man is the person best equipped to watch out for the interests of the constituents?


10 posted on 05/27/2014 7:41:35 AM PDT by DoodleDawg
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Texas%27s_4th_congressional_district


11 posted on 05/27/2014 7:44:16 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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2014

See also: Texas’ 4th Congressional District elections, 2014

Ratcliffe is running in the 2014 election for the U.S. House to represent Texas’ 4th District. Ratcliffe and incumbent Ralph Hall advanced past the Republican primary on March 4, 2014. They will face off in the runoff election on May 27, 2014.[4] The general election takes place November 4, 2014.
[hide]U.S. House, Texas District 4 Republican Primary, 2014
Candidate Vote % Votes
Green check mark transparent.pngRalph Hall Incumbent 45.4% 29,848
Green check mark transparent.pngJohn Ratcliffe 28.8% 18,917
Lou Gigliotti 16.1% 10,601
John Stacy 4.3% 2,812
Brent Lawson 3.5% 2,290
Tony Arterburn 1.9% 1,252
Total Votes 65,720
Source: Texas Secretary of State


12 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:10 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

“Ralph is a good guy but it is time to retire.”

No one who has held the same office for 34 years is a “good guy.” He’s crapped on the notion the founding fathers had of the “citizen politician.” With all the good things happening in Texas, getting this guy out of office has to be high on the list.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:42 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

He is a good guy.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 8:00:54 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: vette6387

In Tx All Politicians are forced to be citizens.
They keep their day jobs.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 8:02:02 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: vette6387

http://www.wfaa.com/news/politics/Oldest-man-in-Congress-Rep-Ralph-Hall-fights-for-another-term-260754361.html


16 posted on 05/27/2014 8:04:37 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

They keep their day jobs.

************

Isn’t his day job being a federal congress critter?


17 posted on 05/27/2014 8:12:43 AM PDT by deport
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To: mylife

“In Tx All Politicians are forced to be citizens.
They keep their day jobs.”

What? Your US Congressmen and Senators play by the same rules as they do in any other state. Hall isn’t a State Politician, he’s a US Congressman. Maybe things are different at the state level, but not the Federal. I think Texas still has a “part time legislature (meets every other year),” so you are probably correct as it relates to your state legislators. BTW, never let those folks convince you that a full-time legislature is a good thing. That change here in CA was our undoing. We now pay these a$$holes year round six-figure salaries so they can write goofball laws 24/7! But just think, now a teenager can claim to be queer and have his/her choice of bathrooms at public scrawl.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 8:33:55 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: mylife

“He is a good guy.”

So you are just another misinformed voter that guys like Hall have conned into giving him lifetime employment at the government tit! If you really believe that he’s fit to serve you for 34 years, you are part of the problem that we as a nation face. Everyone hates the Congress, but evidently like you, likes his own Congressman. Question: Does he still even own a home in his district?


19 posted on 05/27/2014 8:37:20 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: mylife

From the article:

“John Ratcliffe, the Republican trying to unseat Hall, asserts his issue is not with Hall’s age but his tenure. A former U.S. attorney and small-town mayor, Ratcliffe said he is trying to make a point about citizen legislators and the need for change in Washington.
One of the problems in the country is we do have too many career politicians who stay too long and become part of the problem we’re trying to fix,” said Ratcliffe, who is 48 years old. “These are two-year terms for a reason. I don’t think our founders intended that someone serve 18 of them.”


20 posted on 05/27/2014 8:39:53 AM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Ralph Hall has done a great job for decades.
Many of us just question his ability to carry on due to his age, and yeah he used to be a Tx democrat, when Tx Democrats were more conservative than todays GOP.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 8:42:19 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: deport

The key word here is federal.
At the state level are politicians are limited to sessions.
They keep their day jobs.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 8:44:03 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: vette6387

Ralph will be leaving soon, don’t let it worry you.


23 posted on 05/27/2014 8:45:22 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

our


24 posted on 05/27/2014 8:45:53 AM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: mylife

The key word here is federal.

**************

I know that and assumed the topic was Hall. I guess I wasn’t following the conversation close enough.

How does the turnout look for the runoffs today? Have you heard anything yet?


25 posted on 05/27/2014 9:31:33 AM PDT by deport
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To: cotton1706

One last term for Ralph. Go Ralph !


26 posted on 05/27/2014 11:01:02 AM PDT by fieldmarshaldj (Resist We Much)
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To: mylife

“Ralph Hall has done a great job for decades.”

Well then, I guess we will just have to disagree, because no matter “how great a job he’s done,” and I question the veracity of that statement, no one should serve in perpetuity. For one thing my bet is that his “contributions” fell off markedly with time (and age), and for another, it makes “grooming” suitable replacements problematic because he wants to be carried from his seat to his grave! We are lucky when someone decides to try an knock him off, because usually, guys like Hall die on the job and leave an open seat that more often than not goes to the opposition party.
I don’t take anything from Hall for his service early on, but by staying on, he’s not had the best interests of his constituents in mind which is usually the case.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 1:22:09 PM PDT by vette6387
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To: vette6387

Hey I tried to vote him out last time.
He is still a decent guy, but you are correct, we don’t need no career politicians.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 1:41:58 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: deport

I think the tea party types will do well.
with a few exceptions like Bob Hall

This is Tx.

I hope Bob Hall goes down in flames.
He has been a vicious lying turd, and Sen Bob Deuell is a good guy.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 1:45:10 PM PDT by mylife (The roar of the masses could be farts)
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To: cotton1706
And he (Ralph Hall) recently rolled out endorsements from a number of politicians that have known him for decades — including former House Speaker Newt Gingrich (R-Ga.), former Arkansas Gov. Mike Huckabee (R), and former Rep. Ron Paul (R-Texas).

LOSERS! LOSERS! LOSERS!
30 posted on 05/27/2014 5:51:41 PM PDT by Din Maker (Susana Martinez in 2016! Governor, Conservative, Female and Hispanic)
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To: cotton1706

What does it say about the House of Representatives that the man recently given the job of chairman of the Space, Science, and Technology Committee is so old that he once pumped gas for Bonnie and Clyde?


31 posted on 05/27/2014 9:10:29 PM PDT by wideminded
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