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Fox News Guest Diagnoses UCSB Shooter with ‘Homosexual Impulses’
Mediaite ^ | 5/25/14 | Matt Wilstein

Posted on 05/27/2014 5:30:15 PM PDT by Impala64ssa

Much of Elliot Rodger’s video and written manifestos pointed to a frustration over women not finding him attractive as motive for the killing spree he went on Friday night near UC Santa Barbara that left seven dead including himself. But according to one “expert” on Fox News this weekend, it was his “homosexual impulses” that may have driven him to kill.

Dr. Robi Ludwig, a psychotherapist and reality show host, said her theories about Rodger’s motives began to evolve the more she listened to his disturbing rants. “When I was first listening to him, I was like, ‘Oh, he’s angry with women for rejecting him,’” she told Fox’s Jeanine Pirro. “And then I started to have a different idea: Is this somebody who is trying to fight against his homosexual impulses?”

“Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him?” she asked. “But this is a kid who couldn’t connect, and felt enraged, and wanted to obliterate anyone that made him feel like a nothing.” Seconds later, she added that even though she had never had a chance to diagnose him in person, she thought he might have had “early signs of schizophrenia.”

When Pirro pointed out that Rodger’s victims including men as well as women, Ludwig asked, “Was he angry at the men for not choosing him? This is a kid who was just angry in general and probably felt rejected, he couldn’t connect, he couldn’t feel loved, he couldn’t feel successful. Maybe he didn’t feel like a real man.”

Following those statements, Pirro wondered why, with all of the apparent problems Rodger had, his school did not do more to alert authorities of his potential for violence. She did not ask why he was able to legally purchase three handguns and

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; US: California
KEYWORDS: elliotrodger; fox; gaystapo; homoagenda; homosexualagenda; robiludwig
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Coldwell Banker just cut ties with Dr. Ludwig for her "homophobic" comments. Let the revenge of the twinkies begin!
1 posted on 05/27/2014 5:30:15 PM PDT by Impala64ssa
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To: Impala64ssa

His first murders, in fact, were three men he killed with a knife. Let’s play Freud and call it a phallic symbol!


2 posted on 05/27/2014 5:32:55 PM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

The parents of one of the boys STABBED in the house by psycho Rodgers called for GUN CONTROL IN AMERICA!! ..so says ABC 7 News. What a farce.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 5:42:02 PM PDT by CivilWarBrewing
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

His killing was intimate with those men in his home, it was impersonal with the females he shot.

How does a 22 year old upscale, attractive Hollywood guy, manage his physical space so thoroughly around females, that he never even kissed a girl?


4 posted on 05/27/2014 5:44:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: CivilWarBrewing

Lord have mercy.
Idiots.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 5:44:37 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: Impala64ssa
Dr. Robi Ludwig, “When I was first listening to him, I was like, ‘Oh, he’s angry with women for rejecting him,’”

Instant loss of respect in my book.

6 posted on 05/27/2014 5:45:06 PM PDT by upchuck (Support ABLE, the Anybody But Lindsey Effort. Yes, we are the ABLE!!)
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To: Impala64ssa

Any evidence in his manifesto that he ever ever liked boys??


7 posted on 05/27/2014 5:46:44 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ansel12

He should have bought a casting couch


8 posted on 05/27/2014 5:47:23 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: Impala64ssa
She did not ask why he was able to legally purchase three handguns and more than 400 rounds of ammunition

She didn't have to ask the question. He passed a background check. And 400 rounds is a good day at the range.

9 posted on 05/27/2014 5:47:50 PM PDT by Starstruck (If my reply offends, you probably don't understand sarcasm or criticism...or do.)
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To: Impala64ssa

They’re having a feminist fit on MSNBC especially from that little sissy who looks like Maddow’s little brother, but weren’t all but 2 of the victims men?

One of the victim’s fathers just made a loudmouthed ass of himself on CNN, with a lot of encouragement from Anderson Cooper. This guy has been a real camera hog the last couple of days. He was spewing the usual gun control crap yesterday, but today he just keeps yelling about “solutions”. He’s really exploiting his son’s murder for a few minutes of camera time. I find it disgusting, and an insult to his own son and the other victims.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 5:49:04 PM PDT by ozzymandus
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To: Impala64ssa

Can we make that a Twitter hashtag?


11 posted on 05/27/2014 5:51:11 PM PDT by NetAddicted (Just looking)
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To: Impala64ssa

You just know the Perp’s Computer is full of Gay Porn, and Kim Kardashian’s Sex Video of course.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 5:52:02 PM PDT by Kickass Conservative (If Cancer were Contagious, they would call it Liberalism...)
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To: ozzymandus

When I hear victims family members try to exploit their own tragedy for political purposes its when I lose respect for that person and don’t even bother hearing what he has to say..Yes, his son was murdered by a madman with a gun, that madman also slaughtered three people with a KNIFE..so does that mean people should not be allowed to use knives anymore because of this prick’s actions..the second I saw this father on TV the liberal radar went off I knew exactly what he is


13 posted on 05/27/2014 5:52:12 PM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: Impala64ssa
Looks like the gay agenda went to torpedo her career because she stated a theory of him possibly being gay and I don't think Dr. Ludwig is far off. Just from the picture of the guy he looks a little dainty to put it mildly.

“Dr. Robi’s comments on the tragedy in Santa Barbara do not represent the opinions of Coldwell Banker. Therefore at this time we feel it best to part ways with her as our lifestyle real estate correspondent,” Coldwell Banker wrote on Facebook in response to LGBT activist and founder of Memeographs, Scott Wooledge, who had contacted them to check if she was their spokesperson.

14 posted on 05/27/2014 5:52:27 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Impala64ssa
Heck, I immediately thought he was homo when I saw his picture. Sorry if that's not PC, but call it like I see’em.
15 posted on 05/27/2014 5:52:54 PM PDT by servantboy777
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To: Impala64ssa

“Coldwell Banker just cut ties with Dr. Ludwig for her “homophobic” comments.”

No telling what kind of ties Coldwell Banker had with Dr. Ludwig, but it is frightening that a business would cut ties with a medical doctor for stating a diagnoses or even medical opinion of a virtual patient.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 5:54:41 PM PDT by Oliviaforever
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To: GeronL

He didn’t want sex with a female, at 22 and with all his money, and with all the females witnessing him around Hollywood power, and with all the low key and obvious hookers in his circle, he was working hard to remain a virgin.


17 posted on 05/27/2014 5:55:06 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Impala64ssa
It's fine to listen to that guy and think he sounds gay, it's even OK to speculate about such amongst friends and acquaintances, but if you're purporting to be "an expert" you shouldn't go on national television and speculate without a single bit of verifiable evidence to support your speculation. Otherwise you really do look like a loose cannon.

For the record, I think the guy was a frustrated homosexual in denial, but I'm no expert.

18 posted on 05/27/2014 5:57:31 PM PDT by dead (I've got my eye out for Mullah Omar.)
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To: ozzymandus

I read a report somewhere in which that father of the victim is identified as a criminal defense attorney. I’d like to get a look at his client list to see how many violent criminals are out on the street because he did such a wonderful job on their behalf.


19 posted on 05/27/2014 5:57:40 PM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: Impala64ssa
Anyone who read his manifesto would have found out that he was born and spent his early childhood in the UK. Later when trying to fit into American schools he got rid of his British accent.

For the manifesto and his YouTube rantings it's clear that although he got rid of his British accent, he didn't get rid of his britishisms. He would use words like 'exquisite' and 'quite' a lot more than most Americans would.

If he had kept his British accent he might have actually seemed cool to most Americans. But without the accent, his way of talking just sounded peculiar. It also might sound a bit like he was gay.

There is no way anyone should trust his manifesto, even though he begins it by claiming he will tell the whole truth. There are a number of important details we have learned about his life that are NOT in the manifesto. Whether he ever had any gay tendencies was not something he included in his manifesto.

Anyone who thinks that this guy was gay has pretty much got to believe that some people are born gay. Everything about his life, from what he claims in his manifesto, to what people have reported in the news, suggests there were no overtly gay influences in his life. He was not "recruited" or "turned".

If you think he was gay, then you probably believe all the unscientific and unsubstantiated crap that the gay lobby has been shoving at us about homosexuality being a genetic trait.

20 posted on 05/27/2014 5:58:00 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Impala64ssa

It is striking that Elliot desires women, and is jealous of the other males for having female attention — but never seems to have done anything ative to try to attract women. Did he ever ask a girl for a date? Most boys learn this, and will not be put off by inial lack of success: they will try repeatedly. Elliot gives up, and assumes that life is treating him unfairly by not providing for his emotional needs.

His behavior is clearly infantile. He has desires, but will do nothing practical to attain what he wants, much less to consider and purposeful action to make himself attractive to others. Wlliot was an infantile personality, seeking for his needs to be provided. He is a perfect representative of many 21st Century Americans. Someone else must provide: that is an infant’s world-view.

The first formative crisis in his life was his parent’s divorce. This cannot be underestimated. It took away his psychic support, and left him stuck in an infantile stage, with the infant‘s attitude: “Take care of me!”

The anger he demonstrated is also typically infantile. It is characteristic, for small children are not sweet and cuddly all the time. It is normal for even babies to show rage, but fortunately they are too weak to act fully on their emotions.

Of course, bear in mind that I am not a psychiatrist, and don’t even the play the part on TV.


21 posted on 05/27/2014 6:02:47 PM PDT by docbnj
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To: Impala64ssa

Something that isn’t being mentioned among all the wonderment of how a guy who looks like such a chick magnet on paper, couldn’t get laid or even kissed, is that homosexuals of all ages would have also been attracted to him, and they would not have been so put off by his personality, and they would not have been as easy to discourage and drive off as his young female peers.

Twenty two and still a “virgin” who had never had sex with someone? I wouldn’t bet my money on it.


22 posted on 05/27/2014 6:05:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ozzymandus
This guy has been a real camera hog the last couple of days. He was spewing the usual gun control crap yesterday, but today he just keeps yelling about “solutions”. He’s really exploiting his son’s murder for a few minutes of camera time. I find it disgusting, and an insult to his own son and the other victims.
Hey, it worked for Carolyn McCarthy, widow of one of the victims in the LIRR shootings, the Merry Widow's exploiting of her hubby's death got her in the House.
23 posted on 05/27/2014 6:05:59 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: GeronL
I read the entire manifesto and there is nothing in there that clearly suggests that he preferred boys to girls.

If you read between the lines, then you can find plenty of stuff, but nothing damning.

My take is that he had an undue fear of attractive women. He was unable to go up to and introduce himself to attractive women. Somehow he thought that by dressing nice and driving around in a nice car that women would just come up and introduce themselves to him, but that seldom happens even for the most supposedly desirable "alpha" males that he hated.

The fact that he spent most of his time with other boys was that he wanted his innocent childhood to last as long as possible. He was comfortable around boys, but not in a sexual way. He had as much hatred for boys as girls. He hated the popular boys because they got all the hot chicks. He hated the unpopular boys because they were losers who weren't surrounded by hot chicks.

Basically he was bats**t crazy!

24 posted on 05/27/2014 6:07:45 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ansel12
He didn’t want sex with a female, at 22 and with all his money, and with all the females witnessing him around Hollywood power, and with all the low key and obvious hookers in his circle, he was working hard to remain a virgin.
And yet, this kid was so inept around girls he couldn't get laid if he walked into a women's prison with a fistful of pardons? Something ain't right here.
25 posted on 05/27/2014 6:09:25 PM PDT by Impala64ssa (You call me an islamophobe like it's a bad thing.)
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To: GeronL

“”Any evidence in his manifesto that he ever ever liked boys??””

I read the manifesto and my conclusion is the writings are more like a script for a movie. It is as if he wants to have a film of his life created after his death. So it is difficult to say if he had homosexual leanings. His mannerisms were certainly befitting a homosexual.

Maybe research into those named in the manifesto could lead to answers.


26 posted on 05/27/2014 6:10:28 PM PDT by Presbyterian Reporter
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To: GeronL

I heard a portion of his video, and the Gaydar went to 11.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 6:11:22 PM PDT by dfwgator
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
Anyone who read his manifesto would have found out that he was born and spent his early childhood in the UK. Later when trying to fit into American schools he got rid of his British accent.

Because, with the exception of Winston Churchill, that accent is faggoty. Am I right?

28 posted on 05/27/2014 6:11:23 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

I’m just teasing. The answer of course is, yes.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 6:11:56 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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Rodger was strange, odd and unusual indeed. He seemed queer as a Hawaiian birth certificate.


30 posted on 05/27/2014 6:14:08 PM PDT by Rockpile
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To: Sirius Lee
Your reading skills leave something to be desired.

The British accent is not faggoty, nor did I suggest that.

But speaking in British dialect with an American accent can sound pretentious and peculiar.

Which is exactly what I experienced when reading his manifesto and watching his video.

31 posted on 05/27/2014 6:15:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: who_would_fardels_bear
The British accent is not faggoty,

Well, that's a matter of opinion, *coughfag!* and on a scale of 1 to 10...yes, it's faggoty.

nor did I suggest that.

Who cares? The spoiled brat was a fag. A faggoty fag more in love with his mirror - autofagaxexual? - than the hundreds of young women who were around him and available every day. I'm not saying that there's anything wrong with being a fag (there's something seriously wrong with being a fag), I'm simply stating that gay Holden Caulfield is a bad role model. And brits sound faggy.

32 posted on 05/27/2014 6:24:59 PM PDT by Sirius Lee (All that is required for evil to advance is for government to do "something")
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To: Sirius Lee
...or maybe he was a woman trapped in a man's body.

We'll have to wait for the Lifetime special to find out.

33 posted on 05/27/2014 6:33:22 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Impala64ssa
Fox News Guest Diagnoses UCSB Shooter with ‘Homosexual Impulses’

So did I...

34 posted on 05/27/2014 6:38:24 PM PDT by BreezyDog
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35 posted on 05/27/2014 6:39:10 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

If he wasn’t gay, where did those lips come from? Only a gay or a woman would have his lips injected to make them blow up like that. If they were natural there was something seriously wrong with that boy’s hormones.


36 posted on 05/27/2014 6:42:43 PM PDT by ottbmare (the OTTB mare, now a proud Marine Mom)
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To: Impala64ssa
Ludwig is not a real psychologist. She has a mail order "doctor of psychology" from a mailbox school in California(naturally).

Posers like this shouldn't be tolerated but that's the media for you.

37 posted on 05/27/2014 6:44:30 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

7 times you trashed the word for happy. He was not happy. He was a homosexual !


38 posted on 05/27/2014 6:51:00 PM PDT by bicyclerepair (The zombies here elected alcee hastings. TERM LIMITS ... TERM LIMITS)
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To: Impala64ssa

Makes no difference that she was very likely right. There are some truths that are now unsayable in America.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 6:51:59 PM PDT by madprof98
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To: who_would_fardels_bear

He was wrong to drop his Brit accent. Many women find that attractive, tho not as many as those who find a French accent attractive....


40 posted on 05/27/2014 6:53:03 PM PDT by expat2
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To: ansel12

When I first watched one of the videos, MY GAYDAR pegged at the top.

This guy sent off vibrations that made my skin crawl.

I cannot imagine any of today’s heterosexual women wanting a single thing to do with him.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 7:00:24 PM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: Impala64ssa
“Was he angry with women because they were taking away men from him?” she asked.

Well, that's pretty hard to determine now, Doc.

Quacks like this actually get paid for their "opinions." It never ceases to amaze me. People actually pay for thinking like that.

42 posted on 05/27/2014 7:00:45 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ottbmare
In his manifesto he wrote a lot about being afraid to drive.

I think he got the lip injections as a backup in case his air bags didn't work.

43 posted on 05/27/2014 7:01:28 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: Oliviaforever

Never underestimate the power of the LGBT agenda. Sad to see comments from a professional giving a valid theory could be labelled homophobic. It’s political correctness gone mad.


44 posted on 05/27/2014 7:06:31 PM PDT by Blue Highway
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To: Tau Food

It’s a valid opinion, what is yours?


45 posted on 05/27/2014 7:14:10 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: ottbmare
On a slightly more serious note:

A while back I saw a documentary on one of the PBS channels hosted by David Suzuki. His theory, which he strongly implied but didn't outright state (for obvious reasons), was that homosexuals are "made" in the womb. According to him, children get their sex determined at conception, but their orientation and their relative masculinity/femininity are determined during gestation. There are specific times during pregnancy when the correct amount of the correct hormones are supposed to bathe the fetus so that it turns out as expected, i.e. a straight masculine male or straight feminine female.

If the mother's body is stressed through anxiety, drugs, smoking, drinking, etc. then a hormonal imbalance can occur at these important times leading to homosexual effeminate males, homosexual masculine males, homosexual effeminate females, or homosexual masculine females. He mentioned a study that there seemed to be a spike of homosexuals born to women who gave birth during WWII. Seemingly these mothers were stressed out about their husbands being in harms way and potentially getting killed.

This would explain the rise of the LGBT movement in the 70's if there was a spike in homosexuals born in the 40's.

The LGBT lobby seems to suppress any discussion of this possibility. If hormonal disturbances during gestation are the real cause for homosexuality, then the cure is relatively easy, i.e. treatments to make sure that the hormonal balance is correct throughout pregnancy.

The killer's mother could have been under a lot of stress while she was married. According to the manifesto, his mother was so upset about what happened in her first marriage that she never wanted to get married again.

46 posted on 05/27/2014 7:16:52 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: GeronL
There was one suspicious sounding thread woven through the manifesto. His father let a male friend of his stay at his house for a couple of years. He left only after they had some sort of argument.

Putting together some bits of info from the manifesto:

1. Father has male "roommate"
2. Father likes taking pictures of women's butts (but maybe he would have preferred to have taken pictures of men's butts?)
3. Mother was so upset about her marriage to the father that she never considered getting married again.
4. Father's second wife wore pants in the family and the killer resented his father's wussiness and deferral to his stepmom.

If the father was in reality homosexual, and if homosexuality is inheritable, then maybe the killer is a homo.

But that's a whole lotta speculating.

47 posted on 05/27/2014 7:26:12 PM PDT by who_would_fardels_bear
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To: ansel12
It’s a valid opinion, what is yours?

My opinion is that it is no longer possible to know the answer to the question and that only a quack would pretend to be able to know at this point the correct answer. She's not a bad looking quack, though.

48 posted on 05/27/2014 7:29:08 PM PDT by Tau Food (Never give a sword to a man who can't dance.)
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To: ridesthemiles

When I was in college and an undergrad fraternity member, one of our rivals, I’m given to understand, had a higher-than-demographic-average number of members of the other persuasion. Girls liked to hang out with those guys. Safe dates, don’t you know.

Girls might not have wanted to hang out with young Elliot, but more because he was bad crazy than because he might have been bent sexually.


49 posted on 05/27/2014 7:38:51 PM PDT by RichInOC (No! BAD Rich! (What'd I say?)...R.I.P.)
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To: Impala64ssa

Kid looks like a homo. Check those lips. They AIN’T normal my friend!


50 posted on 05/27/2014 7:45:18 PM PDT by Doc Savage ("I've shot people I like a lot more,...for a lot less!" Raylan Givins)
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