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US trains Syrian rebels in Qatar to ‘ambush' soldiers and 'finish off' the wounded – report
Russia Today ^ | 27 May 2014

Posted on 05/27/2014 6:10:26 PM PDT by mandaladon

At a secret base in Qatar, the US military is training rebels to raid Syrian government troops and vehicles, as well as to “finish off the soldiers still alive after an ambush,” first-hand interviews in a Frontline documentary have revealed.

The documentary, scheduled to air Tuesday night on PBS stations, offers rare insight into how Washington is fostering the armed insurgency against Syrian President Bashar Assad.

It features interviews by journalist Muhammad Ali with Syrian rebels presented as members of a “moderate faction” who describe a clandestine meeting with their “American handlers” in Turkey, along with the receiving of weapons and ammunition and the subsequent travel to Qatar for training.

At a Qatar base, said to be on the border with Saudi Arabia, the rebels allegedly received three weeks of training in the use of sophisticated weapons and fighting techniques, and also received new uniforms and boots.

“They trained us to ambush regime or enemy vehicles and cut off the road,” a fighter identified only as 'Hussein' told Ali.

“They also trained us on how to attack a vehicle, raid it, retrieve information or weapons and munitions, and how to finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush,” the masked rebel said.

(Excerpt) Read more at rt.com ...


TOPICS: Extended News; Foreign Affairs; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections; Syria
KEYWORDS: agitprop; obama; pbs; putinsbuttboys; syria; yemen
Why are we involved in this at all? These rebels are not the kind of people we need as allies.
1 posted on 05/27/2014 6:10:26 PM PDT by mandaladon
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To: mandaladon

They will use that vicious, inhumane treatment on US!

We are teaching war crimes


2 posted on 05/27/2014 6:12:29 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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3 posted on 05/27/2014 6:14:58 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: shalom aleichem

Providing this training is a war crime. A real one, not the Bush kind.


4 posted on 05/27/2014 6:16:27 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: mandaladon

We have met the enemy and he is U.S.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 6:18:31 PM PDT by lightman (O Lord, save Thy people and bless Thine inheritance, giving to Thy Church vict'ry o'er Her enemies.)
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To: mandaladon

Good old Russia Today.


6 posted on 05/27/2014 6:18:51 PM PDT by Nachum (Obamacare: It's. The. Flaw.)
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To: mandaladon

this sounds similar to the many disinformation stories the Soviets use to spread about the US. I recommend taking it with a healthy dose of skepticism.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 6:18:55 PM PDT by GreyFriar (Spearhead - 3rd Armored Division 75-78 & 83-87)
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To: shalom aleichem
The part about finishing off survivors sounds bogus.

You want to leave behind wounded enemy to tie up more of the enemy tending to their needs.

If I recall correctly, one wounded takes 2 to 3 out of action caring for him.

8 posted on 05/27/2014 6:19:09 PM PDT by Mogger (Independence, better fuel economy and performance with American made synthetic oil.)
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To: mandaladon

These islamonazis don’t need our training how to murder people. They’ve got their Koran and they’ve already been butchering thousands. And crucifying Christians.


9 posted on 05/27/2014 6:19:33 PM PDT by faithhopecharity ((Brilliant, Profound Tag Line Goes Here, just as soon as I can think of one..))
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To: mandaladon

Why are we involved in this at all? These rebels are not the kind of people we need as allies.


Obama is funding terrorism.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 6:20:02 PM PDT by boycott
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To: mandaladon

We are involved because Obama supports the jihadists.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 6:20:07 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: mandaladon

We are not an evil people.
But we have become an evil nation.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 6:22:54 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: shalom aleichem

We are teaching war crimes


Literally

Killing prisoners is the most serious violation of the Geneva Convention imaginable.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 6:27:29 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: ClearCase_guy

These ba$turds are acting in our name and media is hiding what “we” are doing from us.

Like Third Reich?


14 posted on 05/27/2014 6:32:14 PM PDT by shalom aleichem
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To: GreyFriar

Ditto....even as rotten as this administration is.


15 posted on 05/27/2014 6:39:48 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: shalom aleichem
I think it is very much like Third Reich -- and when the truth becomes completely obvious, people around the world will ask "How could they not know?" and the US media and the US Liberals will swear "I wasn't that political! I had no idea these things were going on!"

And the final conclusion may just be: "It was the Republicans fault!! Why didn't they stop it??"

16 posted on 05/27/2014 6:39:51 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: mandaladon

are any of these idiots watching the situation in Libya ? and they want to duplicate that in Syria ?

the so-called “rebels” that were fighting Khaddafi in Libya and now fighting Assad in Syria are the same lowlife al-qaeda maggots that US forces were fighting in Iraq and Afghanistan, otherwise known as john al-mccain’s pals.


17 posted on 05/27/2014 6:41:36 PM PDT by kingattax (America needs more real Americans.)
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To: mandaladon

Please take this with a grain of salt. It’s RT. They answer to the Kremlin.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 6:43:41 PM PDT by RushIsMyTeddyBear (Great vid by ShorelineMike! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KOZjJk6nbD4&feature=plcp)
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To: rdcbn
Killing prisoners is the most serious violation of the Geneva Convention imaginable.

It appears the idea is to kill them before they become prisoners.

19 posted on 05/27/2014 6:48:24 PM PDT by luvbach1 (We are finished. It will just take a while before everyone realizes it.)
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To: mandaladon

This is standard small unit tactics for conducting a ambush. You clear the the kill zone and double tap everything.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 6:54:38 PM PDT by Theoria (End Socialism : No more GOP and Dem candidates)
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To: Theoria
Verb tense is crucial.

Present tense: "the enemy is conducting an ambush" -- well then -- kill the enemy.
Past tense: "finish off soldiers still alive after an ambush” -- that's a war crime.

21 posted on 05/27/2014 7:02:40 PM PDT by ClearCase_guy (Fegelein! Fegelein! Fegelein!)
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To: mandaladon
Whether this story is true or not it is obvious that the soetoro regime is arming and funding jihadi terrorists, including al queda in defiance of US law.

The GOPe has the power to stop him but the leadership doesn't have the balls for the fight.

22 posted on 05/27/2014 7:12:10 PM PDT by Eagles6 (Valley Forge Redux. If not now, when? If not here, where?)
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To: mandaladon
Stop posting fake Russian propaganda.

This is an American site, not a telling lies about America site.

23 posted on 05/27/2014 7:40:27 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: shalom aleichem

You are unbelievably gullible.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 7:41:14 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: driftdiver

And another gullible acolyte of Russia Today.


25 posted on 05/27/2014 7:41:47 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: lightman

You take the word of Russia Today as gospel? Really? You despise America so much that you will believe any lie told about Americans?


26 posted on 05/27/2014 7:42:55 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Nachum

Ah, someone who has a functioning brain. Thanks Nachum.


27 posted on 05/27/2014 7:43:59 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: GreyFriar

I applaud your critical thinking.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 7:44:34 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: mandaladon

The fact we’re aligning with al-Qaeda in this civil war makes me sick. If Americans would pull their empty heads out of their masses and pay attention, they’d perhaps get involved and pressure their reps an Senators to stand against it. But... Americans.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 7:45:08 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: Mogger

Correct. That’s exactly how someone who understands warfare thinks.


30 posted on 05/27/2014 7:45:50 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: ClearCase_guy

You have become a tool of Putin’s propaganda machine. Smarten up, CCG. You’re better than this.


31 posted on 05/27/2014 7:46:49 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: Nachum
Good old Russia Today.

Lol...the documentary was produced by and broadcast on American public television.

32 posted on 05/27/2014 7:47:21 PM PDT by mac_truck ( Aide toi et dieu t aidera)
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To: mandaladon

“Russia Today” propaganda notwithstanding, what IS known is that the American is lining up with terrorists in the Syrian civil war.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 7:48:25 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: shalom aleichem

“They will use that vicious, inhumane treatment on US!

We are teaching war crimes”

Hussein Obama is a war criminal!


34 posted on 05/27/2014 7:48:46 PM PDT by texican01
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To: wideawake

As compared to msnbc.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 7:50:37 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: ScottinVA

*the American government is lining up with..


36 posted on 05/27/2014 7:50:40 PM PDT by ScottinVA (Obama is so far in over his head, even his ears are beneath the water level.)
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To: mandaladon

Russian propaganda.


37 posted on 05/27/2014 7:52:37 PM PDT by Girlene (Hey NSA!)
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To: driftdiver

yes..against the Geneva convention. What the heck!


38 posted on 05/27/2014 7:52:44 PM PDT by fabian (" And a new day will dawn for those who stand long, and the forests will echo in laughter")
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To: ClearCase_guy; Mogger; Theoria

Theoria is correct, some units do have to finish off the wounded.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 7:53:34 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Girlene

Russia Today.

This is Russian propaganda.

Total bunk.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 7:55:54 PM PDT by Cringing Negativism Network (http://www.census.gov/foreign-trade/balance/c5700.html#2013)
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To: driftdiver
Surely you see how bankrupt your logic is.

Russia Today must be reporting accurately on this topic because MSNBC reports inaccurately about various topics?

This is the best argument yoy have?

41 posted on 05/27/2014 7:57:05 PM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

You started with an insult and kept going. Esad


42 posted on 05/27/2014 8:51:24 PM PDT by driftdiver (I could eat it raw, but why do that when I have a fire.)
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To: luvbach1

Common Article 3 relating to Non-International Armed Conflict

This article states that the certain minimum rules of war apply to armed conflicts that are not of an international character, but that are contained within the boundaries of a single country. The applicability of this article rests on the interpretation of the term armed conflict.[17] For example it would apply to conflicts between the Government and rebel forces, or between two rebel forces, or to other conflicts that have all the characteristics of war but that are carried out within the confines of a single country. A handful of individuals attacking a police station would not be considered an armed conflict subject to this article, but only subject to the laws of the country in question.[17]

The other Geneva Conventions are not applicable in this situation but only the provisions contained within Article 3,[17] and additionally within the language of Protocol II. The rationale for the limitation is to avoid conflict with the rights of Sovereign States that were not part of the treaties. When the provisions of this article apply, it states that:[18]

- Persons taking no active part in the hostilities, including members of armed forces who have laid down their arms and those placed hors de combat by sickness, wounds, detention, or any other cause, shall in all circumstances be treated humanely, without any adverse distinction founded on race, colour, religion or faith, sex, birth or wealth, or any other similar criteria. To this end, the following acts are and shall remain prohibited at any time and in any place whatsoever with respect to the above-mentioned persons:

- violence to life and person, in particular murder of all kinds, mutilation, cruel treatment and torture;

- taking of hostages;

- outrages upon dignity, in particular humiliating and degrading treatment;and

- the passing of sentences and the carrying out of executions without previous judgment pronounced by a regularly constituted court, affording all the judicial guarantees which are recognized as indispensable by civilized peoples.

- The wounded and sick shall be collected and cared for.


43 posted on 05/27/2014 9:58:47 PM PDT by rdcbn
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To: driftdiver
What's sad is that you are willing to badmouth America on the basis of nothing but an obviously fake report from an anti-American propaganda machine run by the KGB.

Man up.

44 posted on 05/28/2014 4:51:41 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: wideawake

What’s sad is people who discount anything negative a propaganda. There are other sources of this same topic.

http://www.pbs.org/wgbh/pages/frontline/foreign-affairs-defense/syria-arming-the-rebels/syrian-rebels-describe-u-s-backed-training-in-qatar/

Unless PBS is run by the KGB. Do a little research. Open your eyes and don’t believe alot of what this administration tells you.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 5:10:48 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: McGruff
What is the administration telling me, exactly?

Let's look at what we actually have here.

Russia Today and Frontline - two organizations who I'm sure are always willing to give the US the benefit of the doubt - have found an anonymous source.

This unnamed source says he is angry at the US for not providing him with anti-aircraft missiles.

Then he says that the US moved him around Turkey and Qatar and Syria and trained him to commit war crimes - that seems like an expensive proposition, since I'm sure that he already knows how to shoot a wounded enemy.

This is extremely weak tea - especially when our anonymous source tells Frontline that he does not have any evidence of any of this, and can only show them Russian weapons which he claims were given to him by the US.

On this basis I am expected to sit back and watch idiots badmouth America on FR?

Please. Too much Obama has rotted people's brains.

46 posted on 05/28/2014 5:48:30 AM PDT by wideawake
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To: shalom aleichem
We are teaching war crimes..

It's only a war crime if the other side wins. Picture this:

Obama has turned loose all the armed alphabet agencies (his civilian defense force as strong and well funded as the U.S. military) on any identifiable conservatives (the resistance) and you've just had a successful ambush, molotoved their MRAP and dispatched most of their number. There are several wounded enemy troops. You can't take them with you and you don't want them able to heal up and rejoin the fight. What do you do?

47 posted on 05/28/2014 8:31:53 AM PDT by JimRed (Excise the cancer before it kills us; feed & water the Tree of Liberty! TERM LIMITS NOW & FOREVER!)
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To: wideawake
Correct. That’s exactly how someone who understands the Western way of warfare thinks.

Corrected. But it's not the Western way of war that they are being taught, it is the Anti-Western way. Wounded soldiers don't get air time on CBS/NBC/ABC. Dead soldiers do. Dead soldiers don't come back on the battle field.

In a short war, having lots of wounded soldiers on the other side helps. Not so much in a long war when modern medicine gets them back on the battlefield.

Guerilla wars are wars of attrition, dead is what counts.

48 posted on 05/28/2014 8:42:03 AM PDT by slowhandluke (It's hard to be cynical enough in this age.)
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To: mandaladon
Didn't the democrats crap their pants when the Reagan administration tried to help rebels without their permission?

Thats right, they did.

Disgusting hypocrites.

49 posted on 05/28/2014 1:21:25 PM PDT by skeeter
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