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Not One More, Crusading father whose son was shot dead by 'virgin killer'
The Daily Mail ^ | 05-27-14 | Jessica Jerreat

Posted on 05/27/2014 7:49:44 PM PDT by ealgeone

The grieving father of one of the six students shot dead by the 'virgin killer' in California on Friday, led a rousing call for a change in gun laws at a memorial today.

As Richard Martinez addressed a crowd of about 20,000 who gathered for the University of California Santa Barbara memorial, the crowd got to their feet and joined his chant of 'Not One More'.

(Excerpt) Read more at dailymail.co.uk ...


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I do feel sympathy for this man as he grieves through the loss of his son. It is something no parent should have to endure.

However, the focus on calling for an end to gun violence is missing the mark. The focus should be on the mental condition of the young man who committed these crimes which he did with a knife, a gun and a car.

Sadly, already liberal politicians are calling for additional unconstitutional gun control. The libs never waste an opportunity.

1 posted on 05/27/2014 7:49:44 PM PDT by ealgeone
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To: ealgeone
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2 posted on 05/27/2014 7:51:11 PM PDT by cripplecreek (Remember the River Raisin.)
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To: ealgeone

It’s as much the media as libs. They showcase these grieving parents to reach their goal of total gun control.

The sad thing is, these people need to blame someone or something so of course they lash out. Then the slimeballs in D.C. and the media exploit their grief.

These people have no shame.


3 posted on 05/27/2014 7:52:17 PM PDT by Kenny
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To: ealgeone

Agreed. And what about the knife that he killed his first three victims with? The boy had serious mental issues and I can’t help but think this fathers rant was arranged by a Hoolywood handler or damage control specialist to deflect the real issue.


4 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:09 PM PDT by capydick (''Life's tough.......it's even tougher if you're stupid.'')
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To: ealgeone

we need nut control, not gun control.


5 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:09 PM PDT by Shadowstrike (Be polite, Be professional, but have a plan to kill everyone you meet.)
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To: ealgeone

Any activism from the families of the stabbing victims?

Any media profiles of them?


6 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:15 PM PDT by GeronL (Vote for Conservatives not for Republicans)
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To: ealgeone

Shot by a Hollywood enabled mental patient who refused to take his meds.

That’s it.


7 posted on 05/27/2014 7:54:35 PM PDT by ButThreeLeftsDo (Support Free Republic!)
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To: ealgeone

People say and do things when they are grief-stricken that - I think- ill give them a pass.
At least for awhile anyway.

One moment his son was a young healthy happy kid - and then poof - gone.
That is an enormous blow to deal with & I’m not going to doggy pile on the guy.


8 posted on 05/27/2014 7:55:02 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ealgeone

So the three people he stabbed to death don’t matter?


9 posted on 05/27/2014 7:55:02 PM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: ealgeone

Had his son obtained his concealed carry, he would have had more of a chance than waiting for the police and a toe-tag.


10 posted on 05/27/2014 7:55:12 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: Kenny

I despise how reporters chase down people at their worse moments.


11 posted on 05/27/2014 7:56:08 PM PDT by Scotswife
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To: ealgeone

As a parent and grandparent I have sympathy for this father. As a believer in individual liberty I find his comments repulsive and expect him to be the next detestable media created Cindy Sheehan.


12 posted on 05/27/2014 7:56:33 PM PDT by Oldeconomybuyer (The problem with socialism is that you eventually run out of other people's money.)
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To: ealgeone

From what I’ve gleaned from the news stories it was the entitled elite killing their own.


13 posted on 05/27/2014 7:56:45 PM PDT by RetiredTexasVet (If you lined up the best and brightest of this administration, you'd just have a string of dim bulbs)
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To: ealgeone

Major scrutiny should be placed on his parents. It is their responsibility to prepare him for an uncaring world. It is those two who failed him and society so miserably.


14 posted on 05/27/2014 7:57:17 PM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: ealgeone
Where are the liberal cameras and microphones on the grieving parents of the victims who were stabbed, or the people injured by the killer's vehicle?
15 posted on 05/27/2014 7:57:41 PM PDT by Extremely Extreme Extremist (100% pure organic, free-range conservative)
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To: ealgeone

This guy went political from the get-go, with a canned political response.

An activist found his microphone, and possibly a new career.


16 posted on 05/27/2014 8:06:33 PM PDT by ansel12 ((Ted Cruz and Mike Lee-both of whom sit on the Senate Judiciary Comm as Ginsberg's importance fades)
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To: Scotswife
People say and do things when they are grief-stricken that - I think- ill give them a pass. At least for awhile anyway.

Agreed. My son died in 2005. He didn't die this way and I didn't act this way, but this man is beside himself and desperate for comfort, whether it's clapping audiences or anti-gun celebrities, wherever he can find it.

That he is in public this soon after his child's death is, to me, unusual and incomprehensible. Most people whose child was just murdered are balls of mush in bed trying to escape this world, not in any way interested in interacting with anyone.

A mentally deranged person killed his child. It's too easy to blame the tool the perpetrator used. Whether it is a rope, a gun, a knife or a buttload of pills mixed with a drink, the problem is the person, not his method.

17 posted on 05/27/2014 8:08:22 PM PDT by Lizavetta
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To: ealgeone

Hollywood owns this, lock stock and barrel.


18 posted on 05/27/2014 8:12:09 PM PDT by longfellow (Bill Maher, the 21st hijacker.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10857021/Elliot-Rodger-may-have-used-machetes-and-hammer-to-murder-house-mates-in-killing-chamber.html

Elliot Rodger may have used machetes and hammer to murder house-mates in ‘killing chamber’


19 posted on 05/27/2014 8:13:02 PM PDT by ltc8k6
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To: ealgeone

Drop him off in Watts and tell him to start collecting guns.


20 posted on 05/27/2014 8:13:58 PM PDT by Anitius Severinus Boethius (www.wilsonharpbooks.com - Eclipse, the sequel to Bright Horizons is out! Get it now!)
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How many military families make the same demands?


21 posted on 05/27/2014 8:14:40 PM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: longfellow
"Hollywood owns this, lock stock and barrel."



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22 posted on 05/27/2014 8:17:11 PM PDT by musicman (Until I see the REAL Long Form Vault BC, he's just "PRES__ENT" Obama = Without "ID")
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To: ealgeone
What's his plan?

How many gun laws are there already?

23 posted on 05/27/2014 8:19:34 PM PDT by smokingfrog ( sleep with one eye open (<o> ---)
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To: ButThreeLeftsDo

Or one who *did* take his meds.

These shooters are almost always on antidepressants.


24 posted on 05/27/2014 8:25:34 PM PDT by Salamander (It's a cult and they worship blue oysters!)
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To: RetiredTexasVet
Had his son obtained his concealed carry, he would have had more of a chance than waiting for the police and a toe-tag.

When seconds count, the police are "crime historians".

25 posted on 05/27/2014 8:27:30 PM PDT by kiryandil (turning Americans into felons, one obnoxious drunk at a time (Zero Tolerance!!!))
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To: musicman



26 posted on 05/27/2014 8:28:58 PM PDT by onyx (Please Support Free Republic - Donate Monthly! If you want on Sarah Palin's Ping List, Let Me know!)
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To: ansel12
This guy went political from the get-go, with a canned political response.

An activist found his microphone, and possibly a new career.

In a few days or so, I expect to see this guy teamed-up with Mark Kelly and Gabby.

27 posted on 05/27/2014 8:32:28 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Endeavor to persevere...)
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To: Lizavetta

Agree.
Losing a child must be horrendous, I can’t imagine it (thank God).
Getting in front of a microphone is incomprehensible.
Prayers for you and your son.


28 posted on 05/27/2014 8:36:54 PM PDT by Ouchthatonehurt ("When you're going through hell, keep going." - Sir Winston Churchill)
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To: ealgeone

This father obviously loved his son ... he’s in my prayers. I originally thought it was the father of the killer blaming the NRA... but it wasn’t. It was a good man who loved his son... let’s just give him a pass and pray for God to lift some of the pain he’s in... Our fight is NOT with him.


29 posted on 05/27/2014 8:42:40 PM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: ealgeone
Richard Martinez should be held accountable for his son's crimes.
It's what happens when LIBERALS raise children.
Their values drive their children crazy.
30 posted on 05/27/2014 8:45:17 PM PDT by Yosemitest (It's Simple ! Fight, ... or Die !)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Six students weren’t “shot dead” as the article mistakenly implies. Three students were shot dead and three were stabbed to death. But, it is convenient to the narrative to make the error that overstates the number of shooting deaths, inasmuch as the narrative is that guns are bad, m’kay. So, double the death toll at the expense of accuracy, and plod Forward!


31 posted on 05/27/2014 8:55:24 PM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Years ago someone went into a place in Washington State and shot several people. Bill Clinton then said this was proof we needed tougher gun control.

At the same time down in Arkansas, two people were kidnapped near here, taken up into Missouri and had their throats cut. No mention by Bill.


32 posted on 05/27/2014 8:57:53 PM PDT by Ruy Dias de Bivar (Sometimes you need more than seven rounds, Much more.)
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To: ealgeone

Had his son been struck by lightning he would have felt the same grief. But you can’t legislate against lightning.


33 posted on 05/27/2014 8:57:53 PM PDT by Mr Ramsbotham (Laws against sodomy are honored in the breech.)
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To: Shadowstrike

“Nut control” can get out of hand, too. It’s a slippery slope.

There was a time when sane people were being locked up, never to be seen again. I don’t want to go back to that. I don’t want to lock up innocent people because of the actions of one. The same as I don’t want to take away everyone’s guns because of one nut.


34 posted on 05/27/2014 9:00:51 PM PDT by VerySadAmerican
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To: Lizavetta

My condolences for your loss. I too, understand.


35 posted on 05/27/2014 9:02:57 PM PDT by BraveMan
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To: ealgeone
The grieving father of one of the six students shot dead by the 'virgin killer' in California on Friday, led a rousing call for a change in gun laws at a memorial today.

I gotta agree, "Not One More!"

Let's make sure everyone who wants a firearm for self defense has one!

No more massacre zones!

36 posted on 05/27/2014 9:08:45 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Charles Martel

you left out Martins pos mother


37 posted on 05/27/2014 9:11:41 PM PDT by CGASMIA68
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To: Shadowstrike

Yep. The libs won’t let us institutionalize many who should not be on the streets. They disarm the public and then wonder why the criminally insane are able to massacre people. They are not very bright. And yet the voters keep voting for them. Voter fail.


38 posted on 05/27/2014 9:11:56 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Scotswife

I will. There is no excuse for trying to take away my rights. Dad should be burying his son and grieving, not pushing an agenda which will only lead to more slaughters like the one that killed his child. There is something wrong with that guy.


39 posted on 05/27/2014 9:15:00 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: ansel12

Exactly.


40 posted on 05/27/2014 9:15:19 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Lizavetta

Sorry for your loss.


41 posted on 05/27/2014 9:15:59 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: Yosemitest

When your kid makes the statements he made, you call the police, then you fly out to talk to them. The parents failed their son and those he killed.


42 posted on 05/27/2014 9:18:33 PM PDT by TheDon (Californians are losing their right to keep and bear firearms one firearm at a time.)
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To: ealgeone

never let a good crisis go to waste, so they say


43 posted on 05/27/2014 9:24:21 PM PDT by Wuli
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To: ealgeone

The libs never waste an opportunity.

“Never let a good crisis go to waste”

When you use the death of your kid or spouse to advance a political agenda you loose all of my sympathy.


44 posted on 05/27/2014 9:27:59 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: Shadowstrike

nut control,

We used to have that, until the libs demanded we let the mentally unstable people out of institutions and put them all on the streets. Then presto; we had a homeless problem. Then presto; we had mass shootings.

Liberal policies will continue to cause more people to die sooner.


45 posted on 05/27/2014 9:30:42 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: coloradan

as the article mistakenly implies.

Come on, facts don’t matter to mini-true!


46 posted on 05/27/2014 9:34:23 PM PDT by logic101.net (How many more children must die on the altar of gun control?)
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To: ealgeone
However, the focus on calling for an end to gun violence is missing the mark. The focus should be on the mental condition of the young man who committed these crimes which he did with a knife, a gun and a car.
Sadly, already liberal politicians are calling for additional unconstitutional gun control. The libs never waste an opportunity.

In this case, the hysteria is unjustified. No one can bear the permanent pain of from losing a child at any age, but it seems doubly painful at the threshold of adulthood. Rationality in responding to the death cannot be expected from a parent in that position.

But it can be condemned from the opportunists who choose to ignore that of the seven deaths, only three were the result of firearms.
Unknown, is how many of the 13(?) injured were the result of firearms or knives or being run over by the psychopath-sociopath.

It would be as mindless to ban all BMWs and kitchen knives from campus as the result of the knee-jerk response that we all know is the heart of the Obamajerks' "never let a crisis go to waste!" disgusting mentality.

47 posted on 05/27/2014 9:36:33 PM PDT by publius911 ( Politicians come and go... but the (union) bureaucracy lives and grows forever.)
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To: ealgeone

the killer mentions 3 different types of psych pills he was taking. I’m surprised he could walk.


48 posted on 05/27/2014 9:39:46 PM PDT by equalator
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To: ealgeone

If you’re serious about ‘not one more’ then teach your kids to use and carry - and, whatever you do, do NOT disarm either us or our kids.

The psychos and the criminals will ALWAYS find weapons of one sort or another.


49 posted on 05/27/2014 9:45:11 PM PDT by Jack Hammer
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To: Scotswife

Disagree. It is no different from a white parent who just lost a kid to a black shooter screaming no more death, send them all back to Africa!!! Grief is no excuse to advocate tyranny.


50 posted on 05/27/2014 9:45:48 PM PDT by Fee ( Big Gov and Big Business are Enemies of America)
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