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Putin Blinked
New York Times ^ | MAY 27, 2014 | Thomas L. Friedman

Posted on 05/28/2014 1:14:13 AM PDT by nickcarraway

There was a moment at the height of the Cuban missile crisis in October 1962 when Soviet ships approached to within just a few miles of a U.S. naval blockade and then, at the last minute, turned back — prompting then-Secretary of State Dean Rusk to utter one of the most famous lines from the Cold War: “We’re eyeball to eyeball, and I think the other fellow just blinked.”

The crisis in Ukraine never threatened a Cold War-like nuclear Armageddon, but it may be the first case of post-post-Cold War brinkmanship, pitting the 21st century versus the 19th. It pits a Chinese/Russian worldview that says we can take advantage of 21st-century globalization whenever we want to enrich ourselves, and we can behave like 19th-century powers whenever we want to take a bite out of a neighbor — versus a view that says, no, sorry, the world of the 21st century is not just interconnected but interdependent and either you play by those rules or you pay a huge price.

In the end, it was Putinism versus Obamaism, and I’d like to be the first on my block to declare that the “other fellow” — Putin — “just blinked.”

(Excerpt) Read more at nytimes.com ...


TOPICS: Foreign Affairs; Front Page News; News/Current Events; Russia
KEYWORDS: bhorussia; pussycat; putin; russia; ukraine
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 1:14:14 AM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

An Obama idolator treating himself to a nice fantasy. Putin still pockets Crimea. That’s worth everything this has cost him and more. Look at the map!


3 posted on 05/28/2014 1:20:35 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: nickcarraway

Friedman showing everyone that he is on drugs.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 1:21:08 AM PDT by Darksheare (Try my coffee, first one's free..... Even robots will kill for it!)
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>> In the end, it was Putinism versus Obamaism

As far as I can tell, Putin isn’t interested in that kind of thing.

Plus Russia and China just settled on a historic energy agreement.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 1:29:49 AM PDT by Gene Eric (Don't be a statist!)
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To: nickcarraway

Soviet ships were rust buckets.. AND JFK was a moron..


6 posted on 05/28/2014 1:30:44 AM PDT by hosepipe (This propaganda has been edited to include some fully orbed hyperbole..)
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7 posted on 05/28/2014 1:34:53 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway

INTIMIDATED_BY_MOM_JEANS_PING!


8 posted on 05/28/2014 1:44:39 AM PDT by The Duke ("Forgiveness is between them and God, it's my job to arrange the meeting.")
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To: nickcarraway
Let’s add it up: Putin’s seizure of Crimea has weakened the Russian economy, led to China getting a bargain gas deal, revived NATO, spurred Europe to start ending its addiction to Russian gas and begun a debate across Europe about increasing defense spending. Nice work, Vladimir. That’s why I say the country Putin threatens most today is Russia.

9 posted on 05/28/2014 2:00:44 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: Berlin_Freeper

... made a mockery of Obama’s Russia Reset, strengthened Republican Hawks.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 2:06:50 AM PDT by Berlin_Freeper
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To: nickcarraway

Yep ZERO won. . . . . . . . . . . /s


11 posted on 05/28/2014 2:08:02 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Deodorant and Common sense. The ones who need it most don't use it. . . . .)
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To: nickcarraway
This guy thinks Putin blinked; he might have batted his eyelashes at Obambi, but I don't think he blinked.
He got what he wanted in the Crimea and the rest was just for laughs.
12 posted on 05/28/2014 2:13:19 AM PDT by 5th MEB (Progressives in the open; --- FIRE FOR EFFECT!!)
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To: nickcarraway

What made Putin blink was the Ukrainians. Not only are they stacking up Russian GRU bodies in the morgue, but they successfully outsmarted the Russkies in the propaganda war. Ukraine still has a long road ahead of it, but if they maintain their fighting spirit, they have a chance. They can’t expect help from the West, only hindrance.


13 posted on 05/28/2014 2:27:37 AM PDT by Greetings_Puny_Humans (I mostly come out at night... mostly.)
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To: 5th MEB
This guy thinks Putin blinked; he might have batted his eyelashes at Obambi, but I don't think he blinked. He got what he wanted in the Crimea and the rest was just for laughs.

Exactly.

Tommy Friedman thinks he understands the world, but he's just another liberal moron!

14 posted on 05/28/2014 2:29:00 AM PDT by cynwoody
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To: nickcarraway

Adolf Hitler blinked when he militarized the Rhineland...

Adolf Hitler blinked when he annexed Austria...

Adolf Hitler blinked when he occupied Czechoslovakia...

It’s good when your adversaries blink.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 2:39:26 AM PDT by kevao (Biblical Jesus: Give your money to the poor. Socialist Jesus: Give your neighbor's money to the poor)
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To: nickcarraway

How could he have blinked when he got everything he wanted?


16 posted on 05/28/2014 3:18:13 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: nickcarraway

“There was a moment at the height of the Cuban missile crisis in October 1962 when Soviet ships approached to within just a few miles of a U.S. naval blockade and then, at the last minute, turned back”

The BS from the Camelot myth was that Kennedy stood strong against the Soviets; the truth is that a deal was made where we would withdraw our missiles from Turkey (too close to them) in exchange for them withdrawing theirs from Cuba (too close to us).


17 posted on 05/28/2014 3:19:05 AM PDT by kearnyirish2 (Affirmative action is economic warfare against white males (and therefore white families).)
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To: F15Eagle

No, I think that it was Truman in 1946 and the early Atomic Energy Commission (which morphed into the Department of Energy).


18 posted on 05/28/2014 3:19:31 AM PDT by Timber Rattler (Just say NO! to RINOS and the GOP-E)
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To: 5th MEB
He got what he wanted in the Crimea and the rest was just for laughs.

Also, despite Friedman's claim that NATO is "revitalized", they won't be offering Ukraine membership anytime soon.

20 posted on 05/28/2014 3:27:13 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: nickcarraway
In the end, it was Putinism versus Obamaism, and I’d like to be the first on my block to declare that the “other fellow” — Putin — “just blinked.”

Who blinked on Syria?

21 posted on 05/28/2014 4:01:05 AM PDT by gusopol3
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To: kearnyirish2

Excellent post. Freepers who aren’t aware of the true history of the Cuban Missile Crisis would do well to look into it closer now that the truth was revealed but not in a way that would dramatically tarnish the beloved Kennedy.

I’m wondering what else Putler may have gotten besides Crimea.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 4:50:51 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: F15Eagle

As always, the NYTimes is propping up Obama. “Putin blinked”, as I read their article is a conclusion they reach by way of (1) PUtin awaiting election results in the Ukraine, and (2) Putin signing a gas deal with China that might give the Chinese a bargain price.

Those are weak arguments.

It’s just as easy to use those same points to support a counter argument.

It’s in the category of: time will tell.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 4:52:52 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: meatloaf
"Freepers who aren’t aware of the true history of the Cuban Missile Crisis would do well to look into it closer now that the truth was revealed"

Yes, the truth was revealed in the 2011 movie X-Men First Class. We had our butts saved by mutants lead by Magneto and Professor Xavier. Certainly not by Kennedy...
25 posted on 05/28/2014 5:12:07 AM PDT by Old Teufel Hunden
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To: nickcarraway

The truth of the matter...revisited.


26 posted on 05/28/2014 5:19:44 AM PDT by exPBRrat
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To: Old Teufel Hunden

Don’t exert yourself. The Kennedy mystique is alive and well.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 5:46:29 AM PDT by meatloaf (Impeach Obama. That's my New Year's resolution.)
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To: The Duke
"INTIMIDATED_BY_MOM_JEANS_PING!"

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*snicker*

#momjeans

28 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:12 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: Berlin_Freeper
Photoshop or does Putin go to same cosmetic surgeon as Kerry?

Heh.........

29 posted on 05/28/2014 6:33:27 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: kearnyirish2
"The BS from the Camelot myth was that Kennedy stood strong against the Soviets; the truth is that a deal was made where we would withdraw our missiles from Turkey (too close to them) in exchange for them withdrawing theirs from Cuba (too close to us)."

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Read once that Joe Kennedy money didn't hurt.

30 posted on 05/28/2014 6:36:59 AM PDT by hummingbird (Mark Levin and Article 5. Period.)
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To: SeeSharp

Yes, this is a nice spin piece, nothing more. Putin didn’t blink, he laughed his way to the bank.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 6:38:48 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: Greetings_Puny_Humans

Ukraine finally went to war, instead of rolling over. How much western influence is behind them finally fighting back I don’t know, but clearly the pro russians had infiltrated the highest levels of their government and military prior to Russia finally taking action... The purge of them has begun and they are fighting back.

I just wonder how much of that is due to western influence to fight back, or Ukrainians finally saying FU to the peace in our time appeasement westerners and going it alone.


32 posted on 05/28/2014 6:41:02 AM PDT by HamiltonJay
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To: nickcarraway
Secretary of State Dean Rusk to utter one of the most famous lines from the Cold War: “We’re eyeball to eyeball, and I think the other fellow just blinked.”

Ha haaaaa!!!

That means Marilyn Monroe's boy toy didn't even tell his own Secretary of State that he had caved to Kruschev's demand that he pull American missiles out of Turkey.

33 posted on 05/28/2014 6:51:45 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: nickcarraway

Isn’t there a quote or something about declaring victory too soon.


34 posted on 05/28/2014 7:00:40 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: nickcarraway
WTF?!


35 posted on 05/28/2014 7:21:11 AM PDT by GalaxieFiveHundred
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To: nickcarraway
In the end, it was Putinism versus Obamaism, and I’d like to be the first on my block to declare that the “other fellow” — Putin — “just blinked.”

And if you like your Ukraine you can keep it. Period.

36 posted on 05/28/2014 7:24:46 AM PDT by McGruff (What if I told you your leaders were lying to you?)
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To: nickcarraway

Putin blinked to get the tears out of his eyes from laughing so hard because of how easy it’s been for him to get everything he’s wanted, and knowing that no one in the west can stop him.


37 posted on 05/28/2014 7:52:28 AM PDT by dowcaet
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LMAO. Such great satire from the New York Slimes.


38 posted on 05/28/2014 8:01:15 AM PDT by NYRepublican72
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To: Texas Eagle
That means Marilyn Monroe's boy toy didn't even tell his own Secretary of State that he had caved to Kruschev's demand that he pull American missiles out of Turkey.

Or that the Soviet promise not to station nuclear missiles in Cuba wasn't going to apply to Soviet ballistic missile submarines.

39 posted on 05/28/2014 8:08:33 AM PDT by SeeSharp
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To: nickcarraway

Friedman, as always, is an *ss.


40 posted on 05/28/2014 8:09:01 AM PDT by WashingtonSource
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if this is “victory,” i’d hate to see what defeat looks like...


41 posted on 05/28/2014 8:31:17 AM PDT by ghost of stonewall jackson (An amateur built the Ark; professionals built the Titanic)
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To: nickcarraway
Obama has done nothing for Ukraine.

Friedman is an idiot for thinking otherwise.

42 posted on 05/28/2014 9:44:20 AM PDT by FreeReign
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friedman was part of a group of liberal columnists who were at the white house to co-ordinate a pushback on obama’s supposedly(?)”weak” foreign policy

http://www.politico.com/blogs/media/2014/05/obama-holds-private-lunch-with-foreign-policy-journalists-189236.html

and this if friedman’s best effort at painting obama’s fiascos as success...


43 posted on 05/28/2014 9:55:13 AM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Josey Wales asks: How is it with stains ?)
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To: nickcarraway; LucyT; azishot; caww

Putin didn’t blink, he closed his eyes completely to 0b0z0’s HashFAG attack.

Putin swallowed the Crimea and stirred trouble in the eastern and southern part of the Ukraine as a new threat to worry about by the West, meanwhile, NOTHING ABOUT THE CRIMEA!

If Putin keeps “blinking” that way, watch out for him taking an insignificant piece of land from an Eastern European NATO country and challenging NATO to apply article 5.

NATO, led by this HashFAG administration, would be proven impotent (oh, no, we won’t start a military confrontation over a ranch, etc.) and all what they’ll do is to nuke Putin with their patented HashFAG attack.

The blinking possibilities are endless, after all, the NY SLIMES said so!


44 posted on 05/28/2014 10:20:40 AM PDT by melancholy
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Putin still pockets Crimea, and Putin still controls Ukraine’s gas supplies. Putin also got an assurance that Ukraine will NEVER be part of NATO, and will be further stripped of its military power.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 10:35:53 AM PDT by Thunder90 (All posts soley represent my own opinion.)
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To: nickcarraway
In Cuban Missile Crisis nobody blinked...both US and Russia wanted to de-esculate the situation...thus backroom dealing worked and agreed upon by both Russia and US....the added tidbit 'US offered' Russia, on condition it be kept secret at that time, was the US would also remove Missils out of Turkey...Russia agreed and withdrew.

In the final stages it was all about each side saving face and preventing Nuclear War...which was just 2 hours from exploding and both sides knew this. Neither wanted it because each knew neither would "blink"...rather an agreement had to be reached to prevent going over the lines.

46 posted on 05/28/2014 10:52:07 AM PDT by caww
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LOL,Putin got his deep sea port and his buffer to the EU. Friedman is an idiot.


47 posted on 05/28/2014 10:53:42 AM PDT by jwalsh07
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To: kearnyirish2
....”a deal was made where we would withdraw our missiles from Turkey (too close to them) in exchange for them withdrawing theirs from Cuba (too close to us).”....

.....which was exactly why Russia went into Cuba in the first place....US was placing missiles throughout Europe at a rapid pace.... Russia had enough, then put theirs on our doorstep.

Interesting too was Kennedy sweetened the deal by “offering” to remove missiles from Turkey under the condition it be “secret”.

48 posted on 05/28/2014 11:00:10 AM PDT by caww
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.....”or Ukrainians finally saying FU to the peace in our time appeasement westerners and going it alone”....

The primary ones now going it alone is the Kiev Nat’l Guard which is made up of Private Sector thugs who are no longer taking orders from Keiv Gov. They believe Keiv Gov. has deceived them so they are fighting against all Russians in the East to drive them out of Ukraine....(ethnic cleansing) doing so by using heavy artillary and killing citizens. This has created conditions where Russian Citizens have begun to leave the East into Russia for safety.

Additionally Israel is arranging departures for Jews because of the Right Sectors violence and killing pretty much any who get in their way who are not Ukrainian.

The situation in Ukraine has far surpassed East and West differences, or that of Donestk’s desire for their own Republic and defense of. Ukraine Army recognizes this and why so many are unwilling to fight....it’s become another war altogether.


49 posted on 05/28/2014 11:09:39 AM PDT by caww
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To: Berlin_Freeper

...drove a wedge between us and our European Allies, getting us closer to being ejected from European affairs, which has been the Holy Grail of Soviet/Russian foreign policy since 1944...


50 posted on 05/28/2014 11:11:02 AM PDT by henkster (Do I really need a sarcasm tag?)
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