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Father of slain Santa Barbara student calls on politicians to 'get to work and do something'...
NY Daily News ^ | 5/28/14 | NANCY DILLON, BONNIE ROBINSON, LARRY MCSHANE

Posted on 05/28/2014 1:45:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper

A furious Richard Martinez delivered a four-letter stomping to do-nothing politicians who have called him to cry crocodile tears over his son’s brutal killing.

“I don’t give a s--- that you feel sorry for me,” a weeping Martinez said about the congressional condolence calls...

“Get to work and do something . . . Getting a call from a politician doesn’t impress me,” he told the Washington Post...

(Excerpt) Read more at m.nydailynews.com ...


TOPICS: Culture/Society; News/Current Events; Politics/Elections
KEYWORDS: elliotrodger; guns; mentalhealth; politics
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Uh, I can think of two possibilities here:

1. This man, in response to tragedy is lashing out, understandably, and the media is exploiting his grief stricken anger to pursue their own agenda.

2. You already know, and it is abhorrent.

1 posted on 05/28/2014 1:45:48 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Yep, Politicians will solve the problem. . . . .


2 posted on 05/28/2014 1:50:05 AM PDT by DeaconRed (Deodorant and Common sense. The ones who need it most don't use it. . . . .)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Man empowers son to be a jerk with Bmer murdering people, wants politicians to solve problem without involving his own accessorial guilt in this.

politician will indeed find another useful culprit and language: legal gun owners are the accessories, not the trayvon families.


3 posted on 05/28/2014 1:59:09 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Disagree completely on #1. The father is another useless liberal who’ll blame anyone and anything but his son and himself for what happened vice taking responsibility

The kid was a ticking time bomb and the parent’s did nothing. I blame them more than anything.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 2:00:51 AM PDT by maddog55 (I'd be Pro-Choice if we could abort liberals.)
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To: maddog55

Mr Martinez is the father of a victim, not the perp.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 2:08:38 AM PDT by ComputerGuy (BS, MS, PhD and a BMF besides)
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To: lavaroise

This is is the father of one of the victims.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 2:09:05 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

While this man grieves and lashes out against firearms, he discounts the murders of three men who were bludgeoned and stabbed to death by the perp.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 2:10:34 AM PDT by NautiNurse (Obama sends U.S. Marines to pick up his dog & basketballs. Benghazi? Nope.)
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To: maddog55

Did you see the video of the stadium/memorial service? This father led the crowd in chants of “Not One More!”....it was pretty creepy. I had flashbacks to the Wellstone funeral.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 2:14:30 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Sir, you are a grieving father and possibly a liberal secularist, so it’s understandable you can’t see this truth: your son was infected by the Evil One, and no politician, or parent, can solve that or any other such infection thriving in the hearts of the mass murderers.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 2:28:34 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: ReaganGeneration2

“you are a grieving father and possibly a liberal secularist”

Sorry, this was referring to the father of the perp.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 2:31:52 AM PDT by ReaganGeneration2
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To: SoFloFreeper

I’m sorry for his loss. It could have been my son.

But, honestly! Pushing a political agenda over the body of your dead son just seems out of place here.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 2:39:33 AM PDT by plangent
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To: SoFloFreeper

The making of another anti-gun activist and don’t think the liberals won’t exploit him this election season. I think we all know what side of the aisle Mr. Martinez sits. His original grief-filled tirade was aimed not at his son’s killer but at politicians and the NRA. My condolences for Mr. Martinez but dude looks and sounds like a hardened liberal.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 2:46:17 AM PDT by dowcaet
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To: SoFloFreeper
Martinez said, adding that he’d deliver the same pointed message to President Obama.

Look for this guy on a stage at the White Hut soon...

13 posted on 05/28/2014 3:05:28 AM PDT by raybbr (Obamacare needs a death panel.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hate to say this but Martinez sounds as if he needs mental health treatment.Hope he gets help soon.

Ironically in my city one person was stabbed to death last week. I hear no calls from that victims family for knife control.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 3:08:43 AM PDT by RginTN
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To: SoFloFreeper
I'm going to go with #3 here ...

3. This guy is a criminal defense attorney, and he has to blame the guns because he's been helping keep hardened criminals out of prison -- and on the street where they commit more violent crimes -- for years.

15 posted on 05/28/2014 3:10:10 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: SoFloFreeper

I notice the story names and shows a picture of the shooter. The networks play his youtube rant and discuss it on the Sunday talk shows. All of which tells every screwed up, prescription gobbling misfit who hates society if he does this everyone will talk about him, listen to his grievances, and act like his thoughts are important. He will be somebody.

The media is helping to create these monsters.


16 posted on 05/28/2014 3:15:33 AM PDT by Hugin
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To: Alberta's Child

Is he REALLY a criminal defense attorney?


17 posted on 05/28/2014 3:24:55 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

From what I read yesterday, yes.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 3:30:37 AM PDT by Alberta's Child ("What in the wide, wide world of sports is goin' on here?")
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To: SoFloFreeper

Unfortunate. Had one of the victims had a weapon it might have ended before it began. But thanks to politicians DOING SOMETHING, his son is dead.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 3:35:17 AM PDT by Vaquero (Don't pick a fight with an old guy. If he is too old to fight, he'll just kill you.)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Maybe he can hashtag something just like Michele and the Nigerian girls.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 3:37:24 AM PDT by ALPAPilot
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To: NautiNurse
"While this man grieves and lashes out against firearms, he discounts the murders of three men who were bludgeoned and stabbed to death by the perp."

Because "hammer control", "machete control" and the infinitely more effective "crazy person control" don't fit in with the liberal agenda.

(I also blame politicians -- the liberals who passed the Community Mental Health Act of 1963 -- but they are mostly dead, now.) It's truly pathetic to use the death of a loved one to further a political agenda. I was also reminded of the Wellstone funeral.

21 posted on 05/28/2014 3:40:00 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Yes, the guy is part of the problem.
the amoral lawyers who insisted the mentally ill can't be
kept in mental institutions for more than 24 hours and there records are wiped clean.
This guy is a left wing Lawyer and is giddy that he can use his kids death for his 15 minutes of fame.

Why isn't this guy planning his kids funeral and memorial to his life rather than holding press conferences !

His is a vile creature .

22 posted on 05/28/2014 3:55:52 AM PDT by ncalburt ( Amnesty-media out in full force)
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To: SoFloFreeper
"Is he REALLY a criminal defense attorney?"

WaPo identifies Mr Martinez as a criminal defense attorney. --> HERE

Given that, Mr. Martinez's extremely twisted logic (ignore the crazy person behind the gun, hammer, machete, and BMW, just focus on the gun) makes some sense.

(Posted elsewhere: "The cynic in me says he might could wrestle himself a Senate seat out of this if he plays his California cards just right.")

23 posted on 05/28/2014 4:00:26 AM PDT by Sooth2222 ("Suppose you were an idiot. And suppose you were a member of congress. But I repeat myself." M.Twain)
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To: SoFloFreeper

An attorney and a criminal defense one at that. Professional Licensed Showboat Liars. When our system looks the other way when lawyers lie in court in a “win at any cost” attitude, justice is never served, except for those who bring the most money to the argument.

Much of our legal system has grown to be nothing more that a life support system for attorneys.

Sure I paint with a broad brush, but when good men do nothing, tyranny wins every time.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 4:01:59 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: SoFloFreeper

Using a criminal defense lawyer for anti-gun propaganda, not a winner IMO.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 4:11:48 AM PDT by junta ("Peace is a racket", testimony from crime boss Barrack Hussein Obama.)
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To: mazda77

I agree with Martinez that politicians needs to do something but not the “gun control” he wants. Certainly there has been a lot of finger pointing at “guns” as the culprit that killed those people but strange those same fingers missed the knives, hammer and vehicle that were also used to take those lives. The people that needs “fixing” is the people, they the tools.


26 posted on 05/28/2014 4:13:02 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: mazda77

I agree with Martinez that politicians needs to do something but not the “gun control” he wants. Certainly there has been a lot of finger pointing at “guns” as the culprit that killed those people but strange those same fingers missed the knives, hammer and vehicle that were also used to take those lives. The people that needs “fixing” is the people, NOT the tools.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 4:13:25 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: SoFloFreeper

He is using his child’s death as a opportunity to push his political agenda.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 4:14:52 AM PDT by AppyPappy
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To: SoFloFreeper

Hey Father of dead victim, go to hell! Your liberal beliefs and votes got him killed. I blame you too!


29 posted on 05/28/2014 4:22:38 AM PDT by MaxMax (Pay Attention and you'll be pissed off too! FIRE BOEHNER, NOW!)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Methinks the apple didn’t fall far from the tree!!


30 posted on 05/28/2014 4:26:28 AM PDT by TexasCajun
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To: junta

I guess it wouldn’t take too much effort to find some of the criminals he defended....and THEIR victims.


31 posted on 05/28/2014 4:26:42 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

What this clown is doing isn’t any different that what the prairie fairy killer did, the prairie fairy killer just took it to the extreme.

Tolerance for everyone except those you disagree with.

If someone went on a killing spree and started killing NRA members this clown would be cheering them on and dancing in the street.


32 posted on 05/28/2014 5:05:31 AM PDT by IMR 4350
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To: DaveA37

Politicians “doing something” is the reason we are even discussing this. More laws passed that WILL NOT be enforced only to make whiners feel good because there is a law out there.

Politicians can no more to legislate personal responsibility than it can to “do something” to have mitigated the circumstances in which the victim’s and their families are impacted by a non-political act. That is, outside of having the means and ability to identify and sequester nutburgers let loose in our society to exact their damage because of nothing more than political correctness.

So much for your “doing something”. Maybe a better answer is to “do something” with people who feel the only answer is for politicians to “do something”.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 5:15:07 AM PDT by mazda77
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To: SoFloFreeper
It's clear that the son's actions result from the so-called father, for Proverbs 22:6 says "Train up a child in the way he should go: and when he is old, he will not depart from it."

Clearly this son was not trained in the way he should go, but was left to his own devices. That training is the responsibility of the the father. To see who's responsible, the man should look in the mirror.

34 posted on 05/28/2014 5:19:20 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

My mistake... This comment is for the perp’s dad, not the victim’s


35 posted on 05/28/2014 5:20:54 AM PDT by The Truth Will Make You Free
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To: The Truth Will Make You Free

You did not read the article.


36 posted on 05/28/2014 5:34:26 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: SoFloFreeper

Has he even buried his son yet?


37 posted on 05/28/2014 5:43:31 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: raybbr

There is a burger joint in West Springfield, ma that is pretty good, called the White Hut. I first went there in honor of the liar and thief Obama on the way home from the Big E (New England’s fair).


38 posted on 05/28/2014 5:47:44 AM PDT by castlegreyskull
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To: SoFloFreeper

I always tend to give these parents some slack. He obviously is upset and in a lot of pain. If he rants about gun control, so be it. I’m not going to attack him for it.

Of course, the agenda-driven Libs in the media take these moments of pain and use them for their purposes. In part to get ratings and in part to drive an agenda. They are scum.


39 posted on 05/28/2014 5:55:40 AM PDT by Opinionated Blowhard ("When the people find they can vote themselves money, that will herald the end of the republic.")
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To: Opinionated Blowhard

I do too, OB...yet this fellow seems a bit too “driven”...did you see the video from the funeral? Really, it was like a campaign speech.

Learning today that he is a criminal defense lawyer makes me even more perturbed by his sudden interest in gun control.


40 posted on 05/28/2014 6:29:04 AM PDT by SoFloFreeper
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To: raybbr

If his kid had drowned in the Pacific Ocean surfing, would he have blamed the ocean??


41 posted on 05/28/2014 7:28:51 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: SoFloFreeper
...do something!

Lock up whacked out liberals and their children. There.

42 posted on 05/28/2014 8:43:22 AM PDT by nonsporting
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To: SoFloFreeper

“Gentlemen, we must DO something”

Blazing Saddles has the answer, as usual:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JN99jshaQbY


43 posted on 05/28/2014 8:51:22 AM PDT by exit82 ("The Taliban is on the inside of the building" E. Nordstrom 10-10-12)
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To: raybbr

I guess he won’t go after the perp and his close fanbase enablers either.


44 posted on 05/28/2014 9:08:52 AM PDT by lavaroise (A well regulated gun being necessary to the state, the rights of the militia shall not be infringed)
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To: SoFloFreeper

Richard Martinez is an interesting individual, in that he doesn’t seem to exist. At least on the Internet, beyond his tear-filled rant.

No address, no phone, no job, no pictures, etc.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 9:15:22 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("Don't compare me to the almighty, compare me to the alternative." -Obama, 09-24-11)
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To: SoFloFreeper
Father of slain Santa Barbara student calls on politicians to 'get to work and do something'...

Okay. We'll pass mandatory handgun-carry legislation, and legalize pistol vending-machines.

How's that work for you, Martinez, you who defecates all over your son's corpse by politicizing this. YOU HAVE NO RESPECT for your dead child.

Martinez: "We...(sob)... should make ourselves vulnerable... (cry cry cry).... to rapists, murderers, and .... (sob) ... an out of control, tyrannical government because 50% of the people a nut killed were not killed by knives.... (boo hoo hoo)..."

Frankly surprised you didn't start denouncing Republicans because they oppose Obamacare.

46 posted on 05/28/2014 9:17:14 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: SoFloFreeper; Alberta's Child
If this is the same guy -- Richard Ross Martinez -- he is not very well spoken-of in this one review.
47 posted on 05/28/2014 9:22:54 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy

See my #47.


48 posted on 05/28/2014 9:23:23 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: castlegreyskull
Has he even buried his son yet?

He started with this grandstanding on Saturday, less than 24 hours after his son's death.

He's probably holding off on the funeral until he has all his TV contracts for the coverage in place and has his movie deals signed. I assume the White Hut is also giving him support with the PR campaign.

49 posted on 05/28/2014 9:23:56 AM PDT by Cementjungle
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To: yefragetuwrabrumuy
Apparently I am a better internet researcher than you. LOL, more information
50 posted on 05/28/2014 9:25:09 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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