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Time to change the narrative on Milwaukee youths and crime
Milwaukee J-S ^ | 28 may 2014 | James Causey

Posted on 05/28/2014 2:38:05 AM PDT by rellimpank

Everyone should be concerned when an 18-year-old is being held in connection with a shootout on a school playground that left a 10-year-old fighting for her life.

Sylvester A. Lewis is expected to be charged Wednesday. He has been arrested 15 times since the age of 12 and was on probation at the time of the Clarke Street Elementary School shooting on May 21. Police are looking for a second suspect, and three other people were taken into custody for aiding a felon.

This cannot be the end of the narrative.

We have seen this repeated too many times in Milwaukee. The uptick in shootings this early in the year doesn't bode well for the summer months.

And there will be another shooting. Since 1995, at least nine children were killed by errant gunfire in Milwaukee, and there have been dozens shot who lived to tell about it.

We get outraged when children are caught in the crossfire. We hold rallies; we scream that the shootings must stop. There are cries for more gun laws and harsher prison terms. The mental health care system needs fixing.

On Monday, Milwaukee Police Chief Edward Flynn said his officers do a good job of catching criminals because they have a lot of practice doing that. Unfortunately, he's right. And for the most part, the criminal justice system also does a good job of holding men behind bars, but if we really want to reduce the number of senseless shootings and high male incarceration rates in the future, we need to address it more on the front end.

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TOPICS: Constitution/Conservatism; Culture/Society; News/Current Events; US: Wisconsin
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 2:38:05 AM PDT by rellimpank
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To: rellimpank

I imagine we’re talkin bout those crazy Amish kids again?


2 posted on 05/28/2014 2:43:55 AM PDT by Fred911 (YOU GET WHAT YOU ACCEPT)
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To: rellimpank
Another liberal flailing away...all that's missing in he column is the old canard "root causes" of poverty.

And BTW..the one cause that he fails to mention is the LACK of parental supervision

3 posted on 05/28/2014 2:59:07 AM PDT by ken5050 ("One useless man is a shame, two are a law firm, three or more are a Congress".. John Adams)
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To: afraidfortherepublic

—ping—


4 posted on 05/28/2014 3:09:27 AM PDT by rellimpank (--don't believe anything the media or government says about firearms or explosives--)
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To: rellimpank

“...the one cause that he fails to mention is the LACK of parental supervision.”.............

This seems to be the PRIMAIRY cause and is NOT just occurring in Milwaukee, look at Chicago, Houston, LA, St. Louis, Detroit, Atlanta. These cities all have one MAJOR thing in common and it isn’t Amish.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 3:39:46 AM PDT by DaveA37
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To: rellimpank

Years and years of Democrat social programs dishing out money creating the “hood” where the only hope for a better life is drugs and crime. Plus, judges who are soft on crime and don’t want to keep thugs behind bars.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 3:43:06 AM PDT by From The Deer Stand
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To: rellimpank

I see the author of the article is black. The cause of all black yoots problems must be white privilege.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 3:45:26 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rellimpank

“Community involvement, progressive educational and job training opportunities, better police relations with the community, improved mental health treatment and alternatives to long-term incarceration for some nonviolent offenders all need to be on the table to combat crime and violence.”

No mention of parents.


8 posted on 05/28/2014 3:47:06 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rellimpank
Community involvement, progressive educational and job training opportunities, better police relations with the community, improved mental health treatment and alternatives to long-term incarceration for some nonviolent offenders all need to be on the table to combat crime and violence.

Since there isn't any mention of a stable family life for this tragic figure, I suspect the worst. Maybe that's the place to start. If you can't start there, the rest of this is such a waste of time even discussing.

Arrested how many times? This useless life was rendered so from the start. It would benefit at least the people he knows to lock the door and throw away the key.

9 posted on 05/28/2014 3:50:43 AM PDT by stevem
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To: rellimpank

White girl bleed alot.


10 posted on 05/28/2014 3:53:42 AM PDT by KC_Conspirator
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To: ilovesarah2012

I’ve been to Milwaukee and toured the local technical college so I don’t get how there is need for more “progressive educational and job training opportunities” than already exist. As to your noticing the lack of mention for parents, the writer knows the audience and the community of which he writes. The word “parent” does not exist in the plural form.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 4:03:14 AM PDT by T-Bird45 (It feels like the seventies, and it shouldn't.)
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To: T-Bird45

I am starting to believe this black generation is an albatross around America’s neck. What else do they want the government to do for them that hasn’t already been done?


12 posted on 05/28/2014 4:09:46 AM PDT by ilovesarah2012
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To: rellimpank
Community involvement, progressive educational and job training opportunities, better police relations with the community, improved mental health treatment and alternatives to long term incarceration for some nonviolent offenders all need to be on the table to combat crime and violence.

James Causey's a joke.

First 'community involvement' is a meaningless term. People marching doesn't do anything for young children. Nothing. Marching was effective against the Jim Crow South because it shamed white democrats in the South.

Second - job training? Gimme a break. How about 'jobs'... No one gives 'job training' to legal immigrants or illegals. Both groups are doing better than blacks after two generations - and most are doing better within a few years. Legal and illegal immigrants don't get 'job training' they get jobs. BIG DIFFERENCE.

Third: Mental health - lots of that comes from a mother AND a father in the home. NOT from 'role models'... another stupid idea sold to blacks by white liberal elites.

And last, an 'alternative' for long term incarceration for 'non violent' crimes... Bull - there are few to none 'nonviolent' crimes. That's more hokum from the black 'community'. Things are crimes because the rational adult members of society have determined that SOMEONE was hurt by a 'crime' or it wouldn't be a crime. A person, a group, the culture... someone was unfairly damaged.

There are ways to deal with problems caused by white liberal elite ideas in the black community - but the solutions won't be found by a bunch of new white liberal elite ideas being tried.

13 posted on 05/28/2014 4:13:19 AM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: GOPJ

“No one gives ‘job training’ to legal immigrants or illegals. Both groups are doing better than blacks after two generations - and most are doing better within a few years.”

This doesn’t even have anything to do with skin color. Many legal black immigrants from Haiti and Africa have solid family values and work ethics and are prospering in the USA. Years ago I did a project with some Haitians in Boston and was struck by the contempt they had for Boston’s poor black community, who they viewed as being weak and degenerate.

But of course the solution to problems and distortions caused by government intervention is always more government intervention.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 4:42:41 AM PDT by Junk Silver
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To: rellimpank

Why don’t we just have white liberals move to these places?

Wonder why they don’t like to live there.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 5:14:17 AM PDT by VanDeKoik
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To: rellimpank
He has been arrested 15 times since the age of 12...

the criminal justice system also does a good job of holding men behind bars...

This is Orwellian doublethink. See my tagline.

What we are dealing with is a people with an alien, foreign culture, with ways, customs, and beliefs that are hostile and contradictory to our own. Money, education, job programs, police, courts, prisons are not going to fix this problem because those things are from our culture not theirs.

16 posted on 05/28/2014 5:42:03 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Question for liberals-
Why are there more men in prison than women?

Does this answer apply to other demographic slices?


17 posted on 05/28/2014 5:44:48 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: Fred911
I imagine we’re talkin bout those crazy Amish kids again?

I had read only this comment but I just wanted to say: Have you ever known a white man named Sylvester? I guess they exist but they have to be rare.

Sylvester, BTW, is what I named my first gerbil. I think it's a funny name.

18 posted on 05/28/2014 6:00:51 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: rellimpank

Don’t Texans say that some people just need killin’?


19 posted on 05/28/2014 6:08:51 AM PDT by Pearls Before Swine
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To: rellimpank; Hunton Peck; Diana in Wisconsin; P from Sheb; Shady; DonkeyBonker; Wisconsinlady; ...

Change the narrative on crime in Milwaukee...

FReep Mail me if you want on, or off, this Wisconsin interest ping list.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 6:18:28 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

Sheriff David Clark had some harsh (and accurate) words on this yesterday.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 6:19:25 AM PDT by afraidfortherepublic
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To: rellimpank

I’m outraged over the lack of opportunity out there for young men of color. I’m outraged that these young men can’t see past the next moment, hour or day. I’m outraged that leaders in the community are silent until tragedy strikes. They should talk to their constituents today, not just at election time when they need the votes.

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But he does not seem to be outraged at the lack of parental involvement. No mention of outrage over all of the out-of-wedlock births or the lack of religious participation by the families of thugs like these.


22 posted on 05/28/2014 6:23:20 AM PDT by Bigg Red (1 Pt 1: As he who called you is holy, be holy yourselves in every aspect of your conduct.)
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To: MrB
Question for liberals-

Why are there more men in prison than women?

Does this answer apply to other demographic slices?

The liberal answer would be hysterical shouts of RACISM!

23 posted on 05/28/2014 6:23:40 AM PDT by Count of Monte Fisto (The foundation of modern society is the denial of reality.)
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To: Count of Monte Fisto

Must be “sexism” that causes more men to be imprisoned than women then, right?

Or would the cry of “racism” be due to the logic trap that such a line of questioning sets?


24 posted on 05/28/2014 6:37:57 AM PDT by MrB (The difference between a Humanist and a Satanist - the latter admits whom he's working for)
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To: rellimpank

I left Milwaukee in Feb of 1964.

It was a hellhole then & it has only gotten worse.

Won’t ever go back.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 7:20:21 AM PDT by ridesthemiles
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To: OldPossum
Hello?


26 posted on 05/28/2014 7:25:35 AM PDT by McBuff
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To: McBuff

For those who go to the movies.


27 posted on 05/28/2014 9:38:33 AM PDT by OldPossum ("It's" is the contraction of "it" and "is"; think about ITS implications.)
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To: MrB

Ageism ,too!
Most go to prison at 18-25.


28 posted on 05/28/2014 10:49:36 AM PDT by TurboZamboni (Those who make peaceful revolution impossible will make violent revolution inevitable.-JFK)
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To: GOPJ

Great post...*clapping*


29 posted on 05/28/2014 11:23:17 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: ridesthemiles

Parents moved us out in 70, I won’t even go to visit relatives that still live there...


30 posted on 05/28/2014 11:24:55 AM PDT by gibsosa
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To: Junk Silver
This doesn’t even have anything to do with skin color. Many legal black immigrants from Haiti and Africa have solid family values and work ethics and are prospering in the USA. Years ago I did a project with some Haitians in Boston and was struck by the contempt they had for Boston’s poor black community, who they viewed as being weak and degenerate.

You're totally right on this Junk Silver...

Blacks from many counties come here and do well... they haven't been polluted with the 'culture' white liberal elites handed to blacks in the 60's.

For some strange reason the politics of resentment and anger don't translate into cultural success... even if great tools for getting out the black vote - to prop up white liberal elites - to hold blacks dependent - and the circle of failure and rage continues...

31 posted on 05/28/2014 11:56:57 AM PDT by GOPJ (>The Mainstream Ministry of Information does not stand for liberty. Freeper Gene Eric)
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To: OldPossum

There were two of them in this household...


32 posted on 06/01/2014 1:48:59 PM PDT by gnarledmaw (Obama: Evincing a Design since 2009)
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