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Family: V.A. Cops Stomped On Veteranís Head, Killing Him
Daily Caller ^ | May 28, 2014 | Chuck Ross

Posted on 05/28/2014 6:23:39 AM PDT by ZULU

The family of a 65 year-old veteran claims that VA police stomped on the veterans head and neck, causing him to suffer a stroke and die several weeks later, a new lawsuit alleges.

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TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Government
KEYWORDS: donutwatch; jonathanmontano; leo; shinseki; thanksvets; va; vascandal; veteran
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1 posted on 05/28/2014 6:23:39 AM PDT by ZULU
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To: ZULU

We cannot go a day without one of these stories.


2 posted on 05/28/2014 6:25:53 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: ZULU
Another "bump in the road". Obama style.

Video: Obama Says Attacks In Libya And Egypt Were Bumps In The Road

3 posted on 05/28/2014 6:27:47 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

At the risk of being off topic (but it does relate to government arrogance and abuse) have you ever had the misfortune of visiting a Social Security office? They will give you the verbal equivalent of a stomp on the head.


4 posted on 05/28/2014 6:30:19 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: ZULU

If not for one nurse who knew the truth, the VA would have just lied and gotten away with it.


5 posted on 05/28/2014 6:31:49 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: Starboard

VA, SS, Homeland Security, TSA, IRS, ATF, NSA.

Different intials - same band of NAZIs - American Style.


6 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:13 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: Texas Eagle

The “bumps in the road” are the bodies of our veterans.


7 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:31 AM PDT by Blood of Tyrants (Haven't you lost enough freedoms? Support an end to the WOD now.)
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To: ZULU
Reason #10,001 why I avoid the VA, even if my life depends on it.

Because it often does.
8 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:33 AM PDT by struwwelpeter
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To: Blood of Tyrants

Zackly.


9 posted on 05/28/2014 6:32:58 AM PDT by Texas Eagle (If it wasn't for double-standards, Liberals would have no standards at all -- Texas Eagle)
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To: ZULU; SpeakerToAnimals
Montano’s case is not tied to the current scandal, his wife claims. Rather, it is a case of police brutality.

YES, IT MOST CERTAINLY IS RELATED!!!

He had waited several HOURS for his dialysis. What does that say about scheduling and service?

And then he can't even leave of his own free will -- with his wife's knowledge and agreement -- AMA (against medical advice)?? Are you @#%$^^@%$# kidding me, he gets ATTACKED for this, for demanding to be treated well??

I'm hoping there's video surveillance evidence, but I didn't see it from article -- ?

10 posted on 05/28/2014 6:33:25 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: struwwelpeter

As a genuine American Hero, you deserve better.

This incompetence by the VA existed in the past, and under the human blasphemy in the White House currently, it had become, like many governmental problems, a PLAGUE.


11 posted on 05/28/2014 6:34:45 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: Starboard

I have not. I do believe you.


12 posted on 05/28/2014 6:35:06 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: ZULU

Courthouse news service (source; looking for more info):

http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/25/68182.htm


13 posted on 05/28/2014 6:35:40 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: ZULU

Short summary of these events:

65 year old vet goes to the VA for dialysis treatment.
Gets prepped for treatment by have a medical device inserted in his arm.

*** Waits 4 hrs without treatment ***

Decides that is long enough and attempts to leave for another hospital to receive treatment.
On his way out, the staff tells him he cant leave and calls the VA cops.
VA cops tackle him and apply pressure to the carotid artery which results in a stroke.
Stroke eventually kills the Vet.

According to other accounts, the vet did not fight or struggle with the VA cops. He was attacked, assaulted and killed without ANY probable cause. Further, the cops did not even attempt to assess the situation by talking to the vet. In my opinion, the cops committed murder and should be held accountable for their illegal actions.


14 posted on 05/28/2014 6:35:54 AM PDT by taxcontrol
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To: ZULU

I hate to say it, but this veteran’s death would not have been covered by the media in 2011. Maybe it will now. I wish the deaths at the VA due to Legionnaire’s Disease were also looked into now.


15 posted on 05/28/2014 6:36:20 AM PDT by PghBaldy (12/14 - 930am -rampage begins... 12/15 - 1030am - Obama's advance team scouts photo-op locations.)
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To: Blood of Tyrants
Just that "boot on the neck" Obama and Jarrett brag of so.

Of course he didn't know about it until he heard it on the news.

16 posted on 05/28/2014 6:38:25 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: ZULU

In Obamaland, Death Cures Everything.


17 posted on 05/28/2014 6:38:40 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: ZULU

In Obamaland, Death Cures Everything.


18 posted on 05/28/2014 6:39:39 AM PDT by baddog 219
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To: cyn

“I’m hoping there’s video surveillance evidence...”

There probably was. But you can bet it was destroyed, erased, deleted, whatever to cover their tracks.


19 posted on 05/28/2014 6:40:24 AM PDT by MichaelCorleone (Jesus Christ is not a religion. He's the Truth.)
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To: taxcontrol

In my opinion, the cops committed murder and should be held accountable for their illegal actions.

I totally agree, Cops in general are out of control in America. They are no longer peace officers. They now view themselves as Carbinieri or Gendarms or VOPOS of the most dangerous kind. Not only are they protected by the Government and courts, they are protected by unions.

This had its initiation under Bush II after 9-11 and has exploded under the current occupant in the White House.


20 posted on 05/28/2014 6:40:53 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals

If/when you do ever visit a SS office recommend you wear your old clothes and look as downtrodden/unkempt as possible. If you look like a responsible, hard working, law abiding, tax paying citizen they will treat you like dirt. That’s just a fact.


21 posted on 05/28/2014 6:44:13 AM PDT by Starboard
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To: taxcontrol; ZULU

And (from http://www.courthousenews.com/2014/05/25/68182.htm):

// Jonathan Montano died on June 11, 2011, after VA police brutalized him at the VA hospital in Loma Linda on May 25 that year, his widow claims in the lawsuit. //

I’d not heard of this before now. JUNE 11, 2011. 3 YRS AGO.

// “Later on, one of the nurses at the VA Hospital in Loma Linda took Norma Montano aside, and told her that her husband didn’t fall, but was slammed to the ground by the VA Police, that Norma Montano was being lied to, and that it wasn’t right what the VA Police did to Jonathan Montano...She is represented by Jerry L. Steering, of Newport Beach. //

I do hope the lawyer was able to find surveillance video or bystander accounts/photos; still not finding that info. It will be all the more damning if video went missing (thanks again, ZULU).


22 posted on 05/28/2014 6:47:15 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: taxcontrol

Ahh, but you see, those cops went home safely that night. Nothing else matters. Nothing whatsoever.


23 posted on 05/28/2014 6:47:55 AM PDT by coloradan (The US has become a banana republic, except without the bananas - or the republic.)
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To: ZULU; xzins

The VA’s primary purpose these days appears to be to reduce the cost of government by eliminating a lot of military pensions.

This way that frees up a lot of money to use for medical care and education of illegal aliens.

Veterans appear to be at the lowest rung on the priority list. Illegal aliens are America’s First Class Citizens. Working American Citizens are second class citizens and veterans are down the line as third or forth class citizens.

This is a national shame for a government that has no shame.


24 posted on 05/28/2014 6:48:13 AM PDT by P-Marlowe (There can be no Victory without a fight and no battle without wounds)
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To: P-Marlowe

Considering the fact that Janet Napolitano - the first head of Homeland Security under Obama - listed Veterans - among many others - as potential terrorists - its not surprising the Feds might be targetting them for elimination.


25 posted on 05/28/2014 6:50:31 AM PDT by ZULU (https://www.facebook.com/freejustina)
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To: ZULU

That’s ‘single payer’ medicine for you.


26 posted on 05/28/2014 6:52:35 AM PDT by Don Corleone ("Oil the gun..eat the cannoli. Take it to the Mattress.")
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To: ZULU; Alaska Wolf; TexasFreeper2009; DCBryan1; Slings and Arrows; Doomonyou; napscoordinator; ...
JBT Ping list

Turns out VA security are actual LEOs not mere security guards.
At the VA, we'll treat you just like a King!

27 posted on 05/28/2014 6:54:43 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: SpeakerToAnimals
We cannot go a day without one of these stories.

I, for one, would love to go a year without stories like this.

28 posted on 05/28/2014 6:55:43 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: ZULU
VA, SS, Homeland Security, TSA, IRS, ATF, NSA.

Different intials - same band of NAZIs - American Style.

“We cannot continue to rely on our military in order to achieve the national security objectives that we’ve set. We’ve got to have a civilian national security force that’s just as powerful, just as strong, just as well-funded.” Barack Hussein Obama, 7/2/2008
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

I think of it as the NatCCC, or more simply, as the NatCs...

29 posted on 05/28/2014 6:58:59 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: ZULU
I totally agree, Cops in general are out of control in America. They are no longer peace officers. They now view themselves as Carbinieri or Gendarms or VOPOS of the most dangerous kind.

Cops are the dire enemy of America.

They are a plague.

30 posted on 05/28/2014 6:59:15 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: coloradan
Ahh, but you see, those cops went home safely that night.

Bet you a dollar that will start changing.

31 posted on 05/28/2014 7:00:29 AM PDT by Lazamataz (Early 2009 to 7/21/2013 - RIP my little girl Cathy. You were the best cat ever. You will be missed.)
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To: P-Marlowe
If the government can work up an injection which gives you a disease like ALS or Cancer, imagine the cost savings to the retirement system?

We did it to native americans as government policy using free healthcare clinics on reservations, what do we expect from the same on us?

We sure are a country full of dum sum bitches.

32 posted on 05/28/2014 7:03:06 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: Altariel

Story posted yesterday by Altariel: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3160792/posts

But no prior mention on FR (or elsewhere, for that matter) before now, according to Google advanced src. The story percolated through the system and is only just now busting out.


33 posted on 05/28/2014 7:06:13 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: Starboard
SS will be broke and gone before I reach retirement age in seven years. So I probably won't get the pleasure of dealing with them. If I do I will dress for new car shopping.

Cutoffs, ragged t shirt and grimy shoes.

34 posted on 05/28/2014 7:06:31 AM PDT by SpeakerToAnimals (I hope to earn a name in battle)
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To: coloradan
Ahh, but you see, those cops went home safely that night. Nothing else matters. Nothing whatsoever.

That is where the problem should be "taken care of" These cops need to lose the safe haven they call home.

35 posted on 05/28/2014 7:08:56 AM PDT by clamper1797 (Evil WILL flourish when good men WILL not act)
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To: coloradan
When Obama refered to the government's "Boot on the neck" of citizens who don't cooperate, does anyone not realize who his listening audience was he was telegraphing to?

Law enforcement and federal employees have open season on those who question or resist his ways.

36 posted on 05/28/2014 7:10:37 AM PDT by blackdog (There is no such thing as healing, only a balance between destructive and constructive forces.)
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To: cyn

testing


37 posted on 05/28/2014 7:13:58 AM PDT by cyn (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ka0_nz53CcM)
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To: P-Marlowe; ZULU

Unless we’re talking about the late Bradley Manning, soon to be gelded, reshaped, and bred to California Chrome, all at government expense.

I will guarantee you that HIV/AIDS positive veterans will get their multi-million lifetime drugs that will extend their lives for maybe a dozen or two years.

Heck...cynic that I am...I think that’s why they wanted in the military in the first place. Med care for their horrific diseases, of which HIV/AIDS is only one.


38 posted on 05/28/2014 7:19:05 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Starboard
have you ever had the misfortune of visiting a Social Security office?
I live in a suburb of Rochester NY that's probably 90% white. About 5/6 years ago, I stopped into my SS office just to double check the reqs for early SS.
As I opened the door I swore I had walked into a third world country - 90% black, 10% EU trash. All were well under 40 years old (let alone 65).
I asked the guard - WTF? - he said they were all trying to get onto the SS disability gravy train.
I came - I saw - I left.
39 posted on 05/28/2014 7:19:25 AM PDT by oh8eleven (RVN '67-'68)
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To: null and void
They don’t call it a Civil Defense force, that would imply we need (or perhaps that we deserve) defense. The official name is National Civilian Community Corps.

The German word for that is 'Sturmabteilung'. They did the same thing, except they put a bunch of gay guys in charge.

40 posted on 05/28/2014 7:28:44 AM PDT by Hoodat (Democrats - Opposing Equal Protection since 1828)
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To: ZULU

The VA reminds me of the movie “One Flew Over the Cuckoo’s Nest.”


41 posted on 05/28/2014 7:30:02 AM PDT by Graewoulf (Democrats' Obamacare Socialist Health Insur. Tax violates U.S. Constitution AND Anti-Trust Law.)
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To: ZULU
VA police stomped on the veterans head and neck

Why does the VA have police at all?

42 posted on 05/28/2014 7:30:37 AM PDT by Izzy Dunne (Hello, I'm a TAGLINE virus. Please help me spread by copying me into YOUR tag line.)
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To: Lazamataz

Laz, as usual, raises an interesting point.

America survived quite a long time without much in the way of “police”. Armed citizens took care of themselves and their neighbors.

Were we to pay bounties on criminals, the population of violent criminals would be quickly culled. With no legal costs (courts, lawyers) and no prisons, crime would no linger be a huge cost to America.

Bounties have the following advantages over cops and courts:
1. A bounty is paid once, not annually.
2. Bounties do not get pensions.
3. Bounties do not have benefits packages.
4. Bounties do not have unions.

Fire the cops!

Bring back bounties!


43 posted on 05/28/2014 7:31:45 AM PDT by GladesGuru (Islam Delenda Est - because of what Islam is and because of what Muslims do.)
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To: Hoodat
The German word for that is 'Sturmabteilung'. They did the same thing, except they put a bunch of gay guys in charge.

Too bad they didn't have a snappy nickname like NatCs to go with that...

44 posted on 05/28/2014 7:35:22 AM PDT by null and void (Disarm Hollywood! No Guns for Box Office!)
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To: All

I must ask (perhaps out of ignorance) but why does the VA need a Police Department? It seems that every Federal department has it’s own Law Enforcement Agency... I would think any Law Enforcement matters could be handled just fine by local or County Agencies. Perhaps, just perhaps it all comes down to CONTROL.


45 posted on 05/28/2014 7:39:05 AM PDT by thegrump (It is who we are. It is what we do. Live for nothing or die for something !)
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To: thegrump

Every hospital has a security team, but those are easily purchased from security businesses. I’m doubting that hospitals in general run an internal security department. I don’t really know, though. If someone wants to correct me on that, please sound off.


46 posted on 05/28/2014 7:41:31 AM PDT by xzins ( Retired Army Chaplain and Proud of It! Those who truly support our troops pray for victory!)
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To: Lazamataz

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/02/support-your-local-slave-keeper.html

“In his study of 18th Century slave patrols – the largely unacknowledged ancestors of today’s “professional” police agencies — historian Philip L. Reichel points out that “patrols had full power and authority to enter any plantation and break open Negro houses or other places where slaves were suspected of keeping arms; to punish runaways or slaves found outside of their masters’ plantations without a pass; [and] to whip any slave who should affront or abuse them in the execution of their duties….”

No-knock midnight raids; gun confiscation; “stop-and-frisk”-style demands for identification that quickly escalate to violence and arrest; summary punishment for “contempt of cop” – all of these practices would be immediately recognizable to 18th century slaves. They would probably find it incomprehensible that people who consider themselves to be free would allow such practices to continue.”


47 posted on 05/28/2014 7:47:33 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: GladesGuru

In his study of 18th Century slave patrols – the largely unacknowledged ancestors of today’s “professional” police agencies — historian Philip L. Reichel points out that “patrols had full power and authority to enter any plantation and break open Negro houses or other places where slaves were suspected of keeping arms; to punish runaways or slaves found outside of their masters’ plantations without a pass; [and] to whip any slave who should affront or abuse them in the execution of their duties….”

No-knock midnight raids; gun confiscation; “stop-and-frisk”-style demands for identification that quickly escalate to violence and arrest; summary punishment for “contempt of cop” – all of these practices would be immediately recognizable to 18th century slaves. They would probably find it incomprehensible that people who consider themselves to be free would allow such practices to continue.

http://freedominourtime.blogspot.com/2014/02/support-your-local-slave-keeper.html


48 posted on 05/28/2014 7:55:38 AM PDT by Altariel ("Curse your sudden but inevitable betrayal!")
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To: Dick Bachert
CREDIT TO DICK BACHERT from other thread.




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49 posted on 05/28/2014 7:56:46 AM PDT by cyn (Benghazi)
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To: baddog 219

Or as Stalin said “No man, no problem”.


50 posted on 05/28/2014 7:59:01 AM PDT by Duckdog (If it wasn't for NASCAR my TV would have gone out the window years ago!)
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